Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2020-01-26 Thread fabi borges
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi empire! I told you I would invite you come to the Task Force for indigenous Health - Mutirão Pataxó. MUTIRÃO OF INDIGENOUS HEALTH – PATAXÓ, VILLAGE PARÁ, CARAIVA, SOUTH OF BAHIA/BRAZIL !! May 19-24, 2020

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-30 Thread margaretha haughwout
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Thanks to everyone dedicated to sharing important information and news on this thread. Its been a rich few weeks -- I hope we can return to this crisis and get updates from Brazil in coming months on -empyre-. M -- beforebefore.net --

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-24 Thread isabelle arvers
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Gisela, Reading your post about the US Influence in Latin America made me think about a book published by the Judge Eva Joly about France influence in Africa, where she explains the France Afrique system, that looks very similar to what

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-24 Thread Sergio Basbaum
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Gisela and all, Just a small correction: the Figueiredo report related to the activities of the late SPI (Serviço de Proteção ao Índio -- Indian Protection Service). The FUNAI was created after that, to take its place. Today, at UNO,

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-23 Thread Sergio Basbaum
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hello all, I barely have time to take part in this kind of debates nowadays, so I'd like to thank [empyre] for beeing always an open channel to important questions. As for the 500 years endless genocide of native Brazilian populations,

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-23 Thread Gisela Domschke
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi everyone, I've been following the thread, and the reflections presented are of great interest. Following the article published by The Intercept, mentioned by Lucia Agra, about Bolsonaro's plans for the Amazon area, I believe it's

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-23 Thread Oliver Kellhammer
--empyre- soft-skinned space--https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3234451/ On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 2:36 PM Oliver Kellhammer wrote: > It took a lot of epidemiological sleuthing to figure that out at a time > when the main priority was (and still is) saving

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-23 Thread Oliver Kellhammer
--empyre- soft-skinned space--It took a lot of epidemiological sleuthing to figure that out at a time when the main priority was (and still is) saving people from dying. Wikipedia has a good introduction to the Simian Immunodeficiency Virus jumping hosts to become HIV.

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-23 Thread fabi borges
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hello Margaretha, Sergio, Lucas, Lucio, Dan and others... I would like to say 3 last things 1) Before Bolsonaro get the presidency, the 'Brasilian National Truth Commission' was beginning the investigations about the biggest indigenous

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-23 Thread Shu Lea Cheang
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- dear Oliver indeed, i never read about this connection you made here with HIV virus. I have myself done a scifi cyherpunk film about HIV virus mutation in the future. (http://fluidthemovie.com). "The rich biodiversity of primary

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-23 Thread Dean Wilson
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Thanks for this razor sharp contribution to the slowly expanding awareness of what living beings innately understand. Hasn’t the rich biodiversity of primary forests been resisting in unanticipated and catastrophic ways for centuries? Are

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-23 Thread Oliver Kellhammer
--empyre- soft-skinned space--The multispecies resistance can cut both ways once primary ecosystems are parsed up with roads and exposed to globalized trade flows. Freed from their predators or other ecologies of containment, some of the more protean species will take

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-22 Thread margaretha haughwout
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Thanks for these insights, Dan. I'm glad to have the chance to think with you and everyone about how mapping has historically been exploited and is now corrupted under Bolsonaro and the far right more generally... adds another node in

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-22 Thread Dan Phiffer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- > On Sep 20, 2019, at 9:50 AM, margaretha haughwout > wrote: > > But I'm wondering about the ways 'we' see the Amazon from afar -- the > technologies we use, and how they themselves are implicated in colonial > histories and

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-22 Thread Dan Phiffer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- > On Sep 20, 2019, at 11:35 AM, Lucio Agra wrote: > > If, from one side, says Margaretha, perhaps the world get information that > constructs a "we vision" (from the standpoint of the ones who did not suffer > colonization directly -

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-22 Thread margaretha haughwout
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Good morning -empyre-, And yes thank you so much Lucio for this insight, and for the link. It is very important. I believe I found the English version: https://theintercept.com/2019/09/20/amazon-brazil-army-bolsanaro/ It does seem like it

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2019-09-22 Thread Shulea
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Not particularly planned thar Amazon IS Burning topic for the week meets the global climate strike massive walkout I want to echo the advocate on agroforestry and regional planting of specific crops that fabi and escher brought up.

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2019-09-22 Thread escher tsai
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Dear all, Hope it’s not too late! Thank for shulea and margaretha’s help~ This is Escher, some comments for the topic: At the beginning, the work of the "Soybean Futures" explores the true state of supply and demand of global soybeans

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-20 Thread Sergio Basbaum
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Thank you Lucio, for this account s On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 1:24 PM Lucio Agra wrote: > --empyre- soft-skinned space-- > Hi, everybody. > I've been lurking until now, following the discussion and > preferably

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2019-09-20 Thread Lucio Agra
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi, everybody. I've been lurking until now, following the discussion and preferably trying to do not interfere. Margaretha, though, has put a good point here. Today I waked up with a message sent by a colleague through Whats Up, with a

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-20 Thread margaretha haughwout
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Dear All, Hope your day of CLIMATE STRIKE! brings new energy and fresh beginnings to the struggle. Fabi thank you for your posts so full of energy and for a vision of agroecology. I share your inspiration for this set of cultivation

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-19 Thread fabi borges
--empyre- soft-skinned space--here a little rivalry between white and indigenous (me and Naruna) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtTIg1t9fNU On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 17:28, fabi borges wrote: > Hi everybody, good to read all this treads!!! quite a lot!! > > some

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-19 Thread fabi borges
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi everybody, good to read all this treads!!! quite a lot!! some contributions: To BBC news Ricardo Salles, Minister of the Environment of Brazil, said that we need capitalist solutions to the Amazon, we need ''monetize' the Amazon. Most

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-18 Thread Dean Wilson
--empyre- soft-skinned space--A lurker here ... thanks for the thread. "A thousand years ago" indeed. Even an eight year interval under the present exploding plastic inevitable airborne toxic event is a lost slave ship of failure. Pankaj Mishra's book review of David

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-18 Thread Dan Phiffer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Hello -empyre-, I’ve been subscribed to the list for a while but have never written in before. In this time of slow emergency, it feels right to discuss the urgent present at the slower pace of a mailings list. Compared to other popular

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-18 Thread Oliver Kellhammer
--empyre- soft-skinned space--I've been remiss in acknowledging I am writing from the unceded territories of the Lenape people on what was once a lovely tidal swamp and is now Loisaida on the island of Manhattan. It may soon be a tidal swamp again, due to climate change

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-18 Thread margaretha haughwout
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Dear All, It seems a good place to draw from the excellent link Shu Lea posted early on -- a discussion between Haraway and Tsing on the Plantationocene. Here it is again: https://edgeeffects.net/haraway-tsing-plantationocene/ >From

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2019-09-17 Thread Dawn Weleski
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Great lead in Oliver, as I just got my thoughts together / images posted - - Firstly I send, in the tradition of the Haudenosaunee Thanks Giving Address, greetings of friendship and respect from unceded Oneida land (Hamilton, NY) one of

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-17 Thread Oliver Kellhammer
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Was wondering about the notion of kleptocracies in all of this? Human Rights Watch has published an interesting piece about the involvement of crime syndicates in the Amazon's deforestation

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-17 Thread Sergio Basbaum
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Lucas, Thank you for this narrative. Looking forward seeing ypur movie. best s Em Ter, 17 de set de 2019 12:01, Shu Lea Cheang escreveu: > --empyre- soft-skinned space-- > > oh, Lucas, thought you would be

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-17 Thread Sergio Basbaum
--empyre- soft-skinned space--thank you Fabi, this is also a very important part of the nightmare. The repression and despise for all minority and diversity discourses is a very important side of the Bolsonaro's agenda. But still, its grounded on an imaginary of a

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-16 Thread Sergio Basbaum
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Oliver, Dark times. The way that has lead to that tragedy is very controversial, since it involves populist goverments in all Latin America, with certain social impact but other aspects not so healthy, to say the least, and out the scope

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2019-09-16 Thread Ana Valdés
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi folks as living in Uruguay a few hours below the Amazon we are deeply concerned, last weeks we saw the smoke coming from Amazon fires and we could not see our Rio de la Plata river for it. We are too changing our agricultural matrix

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-16 Thread Lucas Bambozzi [comum]
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Dear Shu Lea, Thank you for encouraging my participation on this topic. There is a long time I do not engage on any discussion on any list, so forgive me for the eventual lack of proper net-etiquette. It seems I was not introduced as

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-16 Thread Oliver Kellhammer
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Sergio: Firstly, my heart goes out to you and everyone (human and nonhuman) suffering from this cataclysm. I am interested too in your description of 'people not being able to believe it is true.' I wonder how much shock and disavowal play

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-16 Thread Oliver Kellhammer
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Also, I wanted to explore the notion of soy as some kind of 'universal protein' defined more by its exchange value as a fuel to be transformed into meat rather than by its own considerable nutritional properties. In more traditional, soy

Re: [-empyre-] AMAZON IS BURNING

2019-09-16 Thread Oliver Kellhammer
--empyre- soft-skinned space--I wanted to direct some questions to Fabi and anyone else who is on the ground in the Amazonia/Brazil. In Hobbes' notion of the 'The Leviathan' the state via some kind of sovereign power mitigates in 'the war of all against all.' It seems

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2019-09-16 Thread Shu Lea Cheang
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- oh, dear Margaretha I apologize, yes, I did revise to these keywords... amazon is burning. on forest, machines, interspecies, interstellar, plantationocene, cows, soybeans and global food/trade politics Aya, so many versions at work,

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2019-09-16 Thread Brian Holmes
--empyre- soft-skinned space--The global political economy alters the face of the earth. Since the introduction of GMO soybeans in 1996, followed by the entry of China into the World Trade Organization in 2001, land-use changes across the southern half of Latin America