Re: [-empyre-] Process as paradigm: Time/Tools/Agency

2010-05-28 Thread Antoine Schmitt
Le 25 mai 10 à 06:38, christopher sullivan a écrit : a computer IS a tool Of course a computer is a tool, like anything else that an artists uses to create the artwork, like paint or programs. The fact is that it is a very special tool because it executes programs that implement processes.

Re: [-empyre-] Process as paradigm

2010-05-28 Thread Antoine Schmitt
Hi, more opinions : - processual art vs. dealing with serious shit : there is no intrisic reason why processual art (or any technologically-based art or media art) should be more adequate to deal with serious shit than any other artform. Serious shit is the subject. The means, tools,

Re: [-empyre-] Process as paradigm: Time/Tools/Agency

2010-05-28 Thread Yann Le Guennec
Antoine Schmitt a écrit : Le 25 mai 10 à 06:38, christopher sullivan a écrit : a computer IS a tool Of course a computer is a tool, like anything else that an artists uses to create the artwork, like paint or programs. The fact is that it is a very special tool because it executes programs

Re: [-empyre-] Generative Code; Second generation Pattern Language

2010-05-28 Thread Yann Le Guennec
I think a key if to understand that process can be paradigm if it has the purpose of creating living systems Just like looking for God and writing Book of Genesis. ___ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre

Re: [-empyre-] Process as paradigm: Time/Tools/Agency

2010-05-28 Thread davin heckman
I have been far too busy to really get into the discussion that's taking place, but I like it. I used to, on the one hand, seeing a computer as a tool. I also like seeing the activity of processing as something with value as content. I also like the idea of the computer as an environment.