Re: [-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 62, Issue 8

2010-01-07 Thread John Haber
we have lost our ability to even begin thinking about right and wrong. Um, speak for yourself g. ___ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre

Re: [-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 62, Issue 8

2010-01-07 Thread davin heckman
John, apologies for the generalization. I didn't mean to refer to your ability to figure out what was right and wrong...only lamenting what I see as a deficiency in the public sphere where I live (the United States). And, I have to admit that my ability to act and think of justice is severely