[-empyre-] complicity and license

2010-01-05 Thread Joshua Dienstag
(Sorry if this duplicates. Didn't seem to go through before.) Dear All: Happy New Year and thanks to Nicholas Ruiz for inviting me to join this fascinating conversation. As a political theorist, my interests and whatever expertise I have are slightly orthogonal to the discussion so

Re: [-empyre-] poets patrons and the word academic

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Biggs
One could argue that the primary value of art is not in its outcomes, whether an artefact is good or bad, but in how it operates as the ³dark matter² that mediates our social contracts. In this respect one can consider art as folded into creativity per se and not privileged as it has traditionally

[-empyre-] complicity

2010-01-05 Thread Joshua Dienstag
Dear All: Happy New Year and thanks to Nicholas Ruiz for inviting me to join this fascinating conversation. As a political theorist, my interests and whatever expertise I have are slightly orthogonal to the discussion so far, so I don't know how helpful this will be, but anyway: I tend

[-empyre-] Fwd: complicit post

2010-01-05 Thread Christiane Robbins
I admit to feeling a bit overwhelmed by the complexities and theoretical commingling coming to light during this past week of this welcome discussion Clearly, there are a number of issues whose relevancy is unquestionable – yet whose challenge may deserve a thesis or two to appropriately

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Biggs
The network, as conceived of in ANT (Latour, Law, et al), is what I am referring to when talking about social contracts, creativity and mediation. Same idea, different language. Foucault was on to this, earlier, with a different terminology. The remediated self, as a node in a social network, is

Re: [-empyre-] poets patrons and the word academic

2010-01-05 Thread David Chirot
Hello Everyone and a Happy New Year to all!-- This is an interesting discussion (as is the concurrent). The roles of fashion, taste, advertising, politics and ideologies of what a good or difficult poem or work of art in themselves engender a sense of competition and values aesthetic, ethical

Re: [-empyre-] complicity

2010-01-05 Thread Johanna Drucker
All, Thanks, Joshua, for the nice, succinct and very clear statements. I want to build on that discussion of origins of autonomy a bit, because it is useful to recall that the aestheticist movement in England, particularly the critical writings of Oscar Wilde and others, advocated their

[-empyre-] Complicity

2010-01-05 Thread Christiane Robbins
A hyper-condensed tour ( informed and infinitely re-iterated compliments of academic institutualization ) Could commodities themselves speak, they would say: in the eyes of each other we are nothing but exchange values. Marx, Capital, Vol. 1 Marx introduced his analysis of the system