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dear all

thanks Adam for going further with your argument & drawing attention to what 
you call "eco-technologies" within "spatial-political order predicated on 
limitless expansion," and you seem to include "life" –  and not the cosmos of 
the unknown John was referring to in response to us -  into this province of 
the tinkering with limitless expansion. I am not so happy with the confluences 
you suggest ; (and  thus with the notion that there is a neoliberal agenda of 
limitless expansion. National Socialism in the 1930s/1940 declared such 
expansion as one of the pursuit of "Lebensraum." That ideology of expansion, 
under the "spatial-political order" of fascism, included severe reduction for 
lives, in fact it meant, militarily and organizationally, genocide and scaled 
eugenics programs for undesirables, it stood for extermination). 

After reading Davide's complex and fascinating post on datapolitik, I was 
waiting for the floods of responses from the list, and Davide's elaboration of 
the (invisible, transspatial order) data emitting entities was indeed very 
thought-provoking if I understood his ideas on a new predatory regime correctly 
–  "dataveillance requires a concrete engagement with technical objects as 
autonomous actants in the cynegetic powers of predation -- a participation of 
objects, if you will -- including technologies of detection (i.e., software) 
and data storage."  

Yes, but it's interesting that you call data presence as a "shedding" that no 
longer needs a subject. A subjectless data politics -   how does code operate 
by itself (algorithms and programming platforms), who uses them, who writes the 
code, who takes advantage of the dandruff or installs capture systems (the 
police? are they the only subjects? capitalism? profiteering industries? 
states?  there are no more states, citzens?) was the yes/no voting in Scotland 
done subjectless? 

(An analysis of predatory societies, would it not need a political theory of 
subjects executing biopolitics? cf. Branden Hookway,  Pandemonium: The Rise of 
Predatory Locales in the Postwar World. New York: Princeton Architectural 
Press, 1999. Would we not need to ask in whose service the data collection 
agencies operate?)

Perhaps I got worried when reading the last paragraph, when you casually speak 
of a "culture"of zombies". The zombie as archetype (in Hollywood movies?).  
Meaning whom? us here in the West, others in the less datapolitiked zones, 
outside the walls of Jericho? Who are these zombies? And if datapolitik is 
highly controlled (even if rhizomatic), who builds and controls the Trojan 
horses, if we take your reference to the Homeric story of a war at face value? 
Who controls the horses of ISIS?

regards
Johannes Birringer
 

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