There is a certain collegial self-soothing of the ABDs to it all, if
that's what you mean.

Al Matthews
M.S., Digital Media
Georgia Institute of Technology

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Ian Bogost <ian.bog...@lcc.gatech.edu> wrote:
> Look, I'm new here, but is this really the level of conversation this list
> strives to support?
>
> If this is just a place where like-minded folk pat each other on the back,
> please let me know so I can unsubscribe.
>
> Ian
>
> On Jun 14, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Rob Myers wrote:
>
> On 06/14/2012 07:02 PM, Ian Bogost wrote:
>
>
> As for queer and feminist formulations, I agree with the spirit of what
>
> you say, but I'll reiterate my observation that SR/OOO is moving in a
>
> slightly different direction—one that concerns toasters and quasars as
>
> much as human subjects (note the "as much as" here). Why not take this
>
> work for what it is, at least for starters, rather than for what it
>
> isn't?
>
>
> The "as much as" is precisely the problem.
>
> Galloway's critique of OOO that Zach mentioned explains why:
>
> http://itself.wordpress.com/2012/06/03/a-response-to-graham-harmans-marginalia-on-radical-thinking/
>
> But I wouldn't lump Meillassoux in with Harman. I think Meillassoux's
> philosophy can indeed be interesting for this debate because of its
> embracing of contingency and possibility.
>
> - Rob.
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