Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Renate, I don't know that David or Johan were saying that social media is evil as much as they were pointing out the tendency for people to soften judgment of tools like Twitter because they have proven useful in this instance or that

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Hola Tod@s and David, While the research and scholarship you present is extremely important to consider and to understand. It also assumes that artists and activist have no critical awareness of these issues of power above all things or

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space--John, I am glad to read what you have written. I was feeling more and more like a Luddite in my jaundiced view of social media, in my belief that the power of this media is much more towards evil than good. Ciao, Murat On Thu, Dec 11, 2014

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Thank you, Ricardo. as also evidenced by the posts of Richard and Rahul this week, it's the nuanced approach to social media of activist artists and organizers that we have hoped to hear about this week. What you have taught us over

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space--This is a great thread here. I think it is important, as David notes, we conflate the efficacy of specific instances of use (this campaign or that campaign) with the fact that it is really just a blank kind of power. What I see more

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Dear David, and John, Your critiques of Ricardo's post seem unfair to me. Your claim that all social media is problematic and that artists who work through these platforms in a critical way seems to provide little leeway. The point of an

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- On December 10, 2014 at 11:37:36 AM, David Golumbia (dgolum...@gmail.com) wrote: power does not know social justice, however we construe that term. it is just power. On December 10, 2014 at 11:37:36 AM, David Golumbia

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space--On December 10, 2014 at 11:37:36 AM, David Golumbia (dgolum...@gmail.com) wrote: power does not know social justice, however we construe that term. it is just power. On December 10, 2014 at 11:37:36 AM, David Golumbia (dgolum...@gmail.com)

[-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space--the obvious logical fallacy in celebrating the usefulness of social media in campaigns for social justice is that what one is celebrating in practice is the power of the communications medium to realize whatever we think social justice is.

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- David, you make a fine point about the dangers of separating media, social justice, and power. In making your closing distinction between 'advtertising' social media and 'scholarship,' perhaps you might like to explain you scholarship on

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space--David's analysis equating electronic medium to power, rather than to justice or freedom, is the point I was driving at also. Murat On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:04 AM, David Golumbia dgolum...@gmail.com wrote: --empyre- soft-skinned

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- I appreciate the focus on entanglements of social media and social justice with power. Indeed, social media is being used by different groups for different reasons as David and Tim note. Social media itself as something very

Re: [-empyre-] Social Media Use across Campaigns for Social Justice

--empyre- soft-skinned space-- I wanted to clarify that when I noted Also grounded activists rarely have a technological bias in the earlier email, I may have sounded ambivalent considering the next sentence. What I meant was Grounded activists rarely are