Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Biggs
/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: Sean Cubitt Reply-To: soft_skinned_space Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:49:11 +1100 To: soft_skinned_space Subject: Re: [-empyre-] complicit post Hey Cinzia Re "the cyborg of the actor-network" - sorry, that

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-05 Thread Sean Cubitt
Hey Cinzia Re "the cyborg of the actor-network" - sorry, that was a bit dense! Acyor-network theory as used in Latour, law and others is about the combination of human and technical into networks, like laboratories or cities. The Œcyborg¹ is a human-technological hybrid. The actually existing cybo

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-04 Thread Cinzia Cremona
Sean, reading your comments is always so interesting. You write: "Reversing their polarities, what if connectivity comes first and the elements it connects are secondary? Isn't that what the aesthetic experience infers?" You have always been very sensitive to the ethics and politics of relating.

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-03 Thread Sean Cubitt
Thanks for the kind words Johanna Aesthetic - in the old Greek sense of aesthesis, of sensory, sensual - isn't that about a mode of appreciating? Some days even the things you prize most, poem, song, food, seem tired and jejune. Seizing on something beautiful remedies that soul-sickness, and isn't

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-03 Thread G.H. Hovagimyan
gh comments below: On Jan 2, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Sean Cubitt wrote: > vant-gardes were always based on the principle that whatever they > invented > would be commercialised in time - often very swiftly nowadays. No > technique > is intrinsically safe from the process. Perpetual innovation is

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-03 Thread Johanna Drucker
Nice post, Sean. I agree, it's the pessimism that we have to get over -- we can't afford it, personally or culturally. What I want to salvage from Adorno is his insight into the workings of aesthetic objects--the qualities that make them distinct from other objects-- which of course is not m

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-02 Thread Sean Cubitt
My favourite among the bizarre marriages is the defusing and capitalisation of the situationists over recent years. There is a letter from Adorno to Benjamin which sets up the problem neatly: he refers to high and low culture as 'the two torn halves of an integral freedom to which, however, they d

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-02 Thread Timothy Murray
Welcome to the New Year, everyone. >>I wonder if others in the -empyre- community share my curiosity as >>I enter into the new year finding posts coming across my screen >>that could be understood to be dismissive of intellectual history >>("the legacy of Adorno's aesthetics is problematic for

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-02 Thread Christiane Robbins
Dear Johanna, Many thanks for your post which astutely articulates and reflects a number of conversations with friends and colleagues that I’ve had during the past few months. Specifically, I so appreciate your candor and courage and do hope that your post will open up a space for this p

Re: [-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-02 Thread G.H. Hovagimyan
gh comments below: On Jan 2, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Johanna Drucker wrote: > But the legacy of Adorno’s aesthetics is problematic for us because > it has become academic, and because it is premised on a description > of the world and of art that have become formulaic. gh comments: I think I learn

[-empyre-] complicit post

2010-01-02 Thread Johanna Drucker
All, This is meant as an independent start, not a response to John's post, which I shall take a look at later today. I just wanted to make an initial statement here before engaging in discussion. JD Complicity I believe in art and I believe that aesthetic objects and expressions do some