Re: [-empyre-] whose our systems body weather

2014-07-07 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- hello Diana, good to have you join I wondered though what happens to flow when screened off (behind the glass, on other side)? That was what I tried to ask John regarding his position on converting energy sources (attenuating

Re: [-empyre-] whose our systems body weather

2014-07-07 Thread John Hopkins
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Johannes - I wondered though what happens to flow when screened off (behind the glass, on other side)? That was what I tried to ask John regarding his position on converting energy sources (attenuating some, amplifying others) -

Re: [-empyre-] whose our systems body weather

2014-07-07 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Ps. lastly two brief excursions into performance after a visit to the exponential horn at London's Science Museum. There on the 2nd floor they have the full-size reconstruction of the giant 27ft long ‘Denman horn’, a large dark tube

Re: [-empyre-] whose our systems body weather

2014-07-07 Thread Simon Biggs
--empyre- soft-skinned space--I don't pretend to understand anybody... best Smon On 7 Jul 2014, at 23:13, Johannes Birringer johannes.birrin...@brunel.ac.uk wrote: How do you know what the others felt or feared? how to you share (reflect? articulate) awareness

Re: [-empyre-] whose our systems body weather

2014-07-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- You might be interested in Merlin Donald who argues much the same thing; even here, however, I'd ask where is the Borg? In ISIS/ISIL? In the US prison system? Right away class enters - violently - into all of this, and class media,

Re: [-empyre-] whose our systems body weather

2014-07-06 Thread Simon Biggs
--empyre- soft-skinned space--The Borg is everywhere. We are the Borg. That doesn't fill me with horror, abject or otherwise. More an existential fatigue. I think you need a certain degree of youthful energy to feel the sort of intense emotion you are referring to

Re: [-empyre-] whose our systems body weather

2014-07-06 Thread Sean Cubitt
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- just a little thought from a lurker, so open to being ignored, on the first of Alan's points: raster/bitmap display (specifically) is the heir to a series of electronic technologies back through drum-scanned photographs sent by wire for

Re: [-empyre-] whose our systems body weather

2014-07-06 Thread Susan Kozel
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- What this might imply for embodiment or subjectivity? Klee's expression in the Pedagogical Notebooks: 'taking a line for a walk', and Hogarth's in the Line of Beauty, 'leading the eye a wanton chase' . Where bitmap maps, vector

Re: [-empyre-] whose our systems body weather

2014-07-05 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- [cont] the question of whether the dispositif is us, admittedly, now confuses me, as I had probably been thinking still in terms of the (artistic framework) interactive environments we had set up during a live media/performance

Re: [-empyre-] whose our systems body weather

2014-07-05 Thread Simon Biggs
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Johannes/Alan I prefer the term dispositif to apparatus, even though the latter is more evocative and descriptive, as it has less of a dualistic emphasis. In the rhetoric around the term 'apparatus' the old 'us and them' narrative is