[Emu] Protocol Action: 'EAP Session-Id Derivation for EAP-SIM, EAP-AKA, and PEAP' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-emu-eap-session-id-06.txt)

2020-09-02 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'EAP Session-Id Derivation for EAP-SIM, EAP-AKA, and PEAP' (draft-ietf-emu-eap-session-id-06.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the EAP Method Update Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Benjamin Kaduk and Roman Danyl

Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-tls-eap-types-01.txt

2020-09-02 Thread Alan DeKok
On Sep 2, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Jorge Vergara wrote: > After some more thought a concern came to me about reaching into TLS 1.3 and > using the HKDF. These dependencies on TLS versions are why all the EAP > methods are currently needing updates. Would using the HKDF directly create a > similar situ

Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-tls-eap-types-01.txt

2020-09-02 Thread Jorge Vergara
>>[Joe] Moving away from SHA-1 is a good idea as it will only raise questions >>moving forward. For TLS 1.3 I think you could use the same text, but I would >>look to Jorge to make sure we get it correct for PEAP. TEAP should also use >>the Hash from HKDF in TLS 1.3. >I am not a TLS terminol

Re: [Emu] Commitment Message handling in EAP-TLS 1.3

2020-09-02 Thread Alan DeKok
On Sep 1, 2020, at 10:23 AM, John Mattsson wrote: > > If the ability to send a descriptive TLS Fatal Alert back to the peer is a > requirement, changing to close_notify seems like a bad idea. It's fine for EAP Success. But having two different code paths is a little surprising. > My unders

Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-tls-eap-types-01.txt

2020-09-02 Thread Jorge Vergara
>[Joe] Moving away from SHA-1 is a good idea as it will only raise questions >moving forward. For TLS 1.3 I think you could use the same text, but I would >look to Jorge to make sure we get it correct for PEAP. TEAP should also use >the Hash from HKDF in TLS 1.3. I am not a TLS terminology e

Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-tls-eap-types-01.txt

2020-09-02 Thread Joseph Salowey
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 7:54 AM Alan DeKok wrote: > On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:30 AM, John Mattsson > wrote: > >> I can tell you what Windows is doing for TLS 1.2; and Windows interops > with all the TEAP implementations that I know of, so others are likely > doing the same. We're using the MAC functio

Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-tls-eap-types-01.txt

2020-09-02 Thread Alan DeKok
On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:30 AM, John Mattsson wrote: >> I can tell you what Windows is doing for TLS 1.2; and Windows interops with >> all the TEAP implementations that I know of, so others are likely doing the >> same. We're using the MAC function in the case of a CBC block cipher suite, >> or PRF

Re: [Emu] I-D Action: draft-ietf-emu-tls-eap-types-01.txt

2020-09-02 Thread John Mattsson
>>> This raises the question what TEAP TLS 1.2 implementations do today? Are >>> they only using outdated and non-secure cipher suites or are they doing >>> something unspecified to derive Compound-MAC with an AEAD cipher suite? >> It's not clear. I'd have to double-check hostap, which is th