Re: [Emu] [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP over CoAP?)

2020-12-10 Thread Dan Garcia
 Hi Michael, "/1) .../" For onboarding a new device, where there is no connectivity after authentication, you propose to use 802.1X, which is an EAP lower layer. EAP over CoAP is in fact a proposal for a application level EAP lower layer that overcomes the limitation that 802.1X works on an

Re: [Emu] [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP over CoAP?)

2020-12-09 Thread Michael Richardson
Dan Garcia wrote: > EAP can be used in the context of IoT for authentication. But, to what end? 1) If it is onboarding a new device, then there is no connectivity until after authentication. so you can't use CoAP, you have to use 802.1x, or some equivalent, or create a system such

Re: [Emu] [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP over CoAP?)

2020-12-09 Thread Alexander Pelov
Dear all, I support the inclusion of EAP-over-CoAP to the charter. We've done work on this particular item in the past, and we've identified the need for it in many places.. but unfortunately the draft didn't have a proper "home" and things never advanced much. Use-cases we've seen include

Re: [Emu] [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP over CoAP?)

2020-12-09 Thread Dan Garcia
 Hi Michael, EAP can be used in the context of IoT for authentication. To transport EAP from the IoT device we need a light EAP lower-layer. This would be CoAP. Morover, according to EAP key management framework, keys are exported to protect the link and the EAP lower-layer itself. So yes,

Re: [Emu] [Ace] [core] Proposed charter for ACE (EAP over CoAP?)

2020-12-07 Thread Michael Richardson
Could someone point to a use case for "EAP over CoAP" please? Is the goal to key an OSCORE context, or what? -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works|IoT architect [ ] m...@sandelman.ca