Re: [Emu] Question about draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03 && application data

2019-03-10 Thread John Mattsson
Hi, As there was no objections, I made the following changes to the GitHub version that will appear in draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-04 Section 2.1.1 OLD: As stated in [RFC5216], the TLS cipher suite shall not be used to protect application data. This applies also for early application

Re: [Emu] Question about draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03 && application data

2019-02-07 Thread Alan DeKok
On Feb 1, 2019, at 7:20 AM, John Mattsson wrote: > If we cannot come up with a good reason to have the requirement, I think we > should consider removing it in draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13. > draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13 already has a whole paragraph just trying to > motivate why the use of an empty ap

Re: [Emu] Question about draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03 && application data

2019-02-01 Thread John Mattsson
Hi Alan > Alan DeKok ; wrote: > >> The mentioned requirement comes from Section 2.4 of RFC 5216, which states >> that: >> >> "Since the ciphersuite negotiated within EAP-TLS applies only to the EAP >> conversation, TLS ciphersuite negotiation MUST NOT be used to negotiate the >> ciphersuite

Re: [Emu] Question about draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03 && application data

2019-01-31 Thread Alan DeKok
On Jan 31, 2019, at 11:42 AM, John Mattsson wrote: > > The mentioned requirement comes from Section 2.4 of RFC 5216, which states > that: > > "Since the ciphersuite negotiated within EAP-TLS applies only to the EAP > conversation, TLS ciphersuite negotiation MUST NOT be used to negotiate the

Re: [Emu] Question about draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03 && application data

2019-01-31 Thread John Mattsson
Hi Alan, The mentioned requirement comes from Section 2.4 of RFC 5216, which states that: "Since the ciphersuite negotiated within EAP-TLS applies only to the EAP conversation, TLS ciphersuite negotiation MUST NOT be used to negotiate the ciphersuites used to secure data." However, I do not

[Emu] Question about draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-03 && application data

2019-01-31 Thread Alan DeKok
Section 2.1.1 says: As stated in [RFC5216], the TLS cipher suite shall not be used to protect application data. This applies also for early application data. When EAP-TLS is used with TLS 1.3, early application data SHALL NOT be used. I can't find any such statement in RFC 5216.