Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-06-23 Thread Joseph Salowey
nday, June 22, 2020 8:53 PM > *To:* Oleg Pekar > *Cc:* Jorge Vergara ; Jouni Malinen ; > EMU WG > *Subject:* Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:02 AM Oleg Pekar > wrote: > > >And focusing

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-06-22 Thread Jorge Vergara
ure gap – but servers are free to decline the connection if they do not want to downgrade to an MSK based crypto binding. From: Joseph Salowey Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 8:53 PM To: Oleg Pekar Cc: Jorge Vergara ; Jouni Malinen ; EMU WG Subject: Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discuss

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-06-22 Thread Joseph Salowey
gt;> >How would the correct IMCK[j] be determined by the peer and the server >> if one of them derived MSK/EMSK but the other one did not derive either for >> inner EAP method j? >> >> Assuming we use the value 0 to indicate the state where one of the peers >> did no

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-21 Thread Oleg Pekar
peers > did not derive either MSK or EMSK, then I believe the RFC addresses this as > MSKi = 32 octets of 0x00s. So if one side calculated neither MSK nor EMSK, > and both sides decided to continue the conversion, then both sides would > use the zero-MSK for that IMSK[j], &g

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-19 Thread Jorge Vergara
om: Jouni Malinen Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 3:25 AM To: Oleg Pekar Cc: Jorge Vergara ; EMU WG Subject: Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 07:25:08PM +0300, Oleg Pekar wrote: > For TEAP errata 5770: > Technically TEAP RFC suggests th

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-19 Thread Jorge Vergara
es. Jorge Vergara -Original Message- From: Alan DeKok Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 9:17 AM To: Jorge Vergara Cc: EMU WG Subject: Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion On Apr 7, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Jorge Vergara wrote: > On the document contents themselves, I have this re

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-19 Thread Mohit Sethi M
No hat! I support the adoption of this document! --Mohit On 4/3/20 11:48 PM, Alan DeKok wrote: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types-01 > >I haven't seen much discussion on the document. There are still some open > questions: > > * should it be published

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-19 Thread Alan DeKok
On Apr 7, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Jorge Vergara wrote: > On the document contents themselves, I have this review: The key derivation > proposed for TEAP/FAST uses the definition from FAST, which is not identical > to the TEAP derivation. Namely, FAST used MSK[j] in the derivation, but TEAP > uses

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-16 Thread Jouni Malinen
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 07:25:08PM +0300, Oleg Pekar wrote: > For TEAP errata 5770: > Technically TEAP RFC suggests the implicit method of taking the correct > IMSK[j] and all the subsequent keys after each inner method via negotiation > taking place in Crypto-Binding TLV exchange. What is "the

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-15 Thread Oleg Pekar
*On Behalf Of * Oleg Pekar > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:25 AM > *To:* Jorge Vergara > *Cc:* EMU WG > *Subject:* Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion > > > > Hi Jorge, > > For Microsoft supported protocol suite PEAP/TTLS/TEAP - are you planning &g

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-15 Thread Jorge Vergara
the errata. Jorge From: Emu On Behalf Of Oleg Pekar Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:25 AM To: Jorge Vergara Cc: EMU WG Subject: Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion Hi Jorge, For Microsoft supported protocol suite PEAP/TTLS/TEAP - are you planning to find the common method

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-15 Thread Oleg Pekar
TLS-Exporter("EXPORTER: Inner Methods Compound Keys", > S-IMCK[j-1] | IMSK[j], 60) > For TEAP. > > Jorge > > -Original Message- > From: Emu On Behalf Of Alan DeKok > Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 1:48 PM > To: EMU WG > Subject: [Emu] draft-dekok

Re: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-07 Thread Jorge Vergara
Original Message- From: Emu On Behalf Of Alan DeKok Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 1:48 PM To: EMU WG Subject: [Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.ietf.org%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types-01data

[Emu] draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types discussion

2020-04-03 Thread Alan DeKok
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dekok-emu-tls-eap-types-01 I haven't seen much discussion on the document. There are still some open questions: * should it be published simultaneously with draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13? If so, we need some consensus on this document, and quick. If not,