Re: [Emu] WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

Hello, Nevertheless this looks like a useful extension which can enhance security in 3GPP. As an option this at least this opens the possibility to gradually move towards PFS. Best regards, Julien Maisonneuve, Nokia Corporate Standards. Jari Arkko mailto:jari.ar...@piuha.net>> Tue, 11

Re: [Emu] WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

On Dec 11, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: > > Re: optional but everyone requiring a feature. > > I think in this case the “can require everyone to do it” is probably far away > in the future, in practice. Given that Release 15 does not require this > extension, it only requires RFC 5448

Re: [Emu] WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

On Dec 11, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: > I’ll first agree with your summary about the importance of the tech, that > there’s some risk but the risk is likely low but non-zero, and that in an > ideal situation you wouldn’t have to deal with this. > > However, I would like to point out

Re: [Emu] WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

Alan, Circling back to this. I’ll first agree with your summary about the importance of the tech, that there’s some risk but the risk is likely low but non-zero, and that in an ideal situation you wouldn’t have to deal with this. However, I would like to point out that * The draft is an

Re: [Emu] WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

On Nov 28, 2018, at 3:32 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: > However, I think it would be useful to understand the situation: i.e. No one has gotten sued for this before. That doesn't mean they won't get sued. The typical practice here is that the patent holders ignore the Open Source authors.

Re: [Emu] WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

Max, Alan, First, thank you for your review and expressing that this is an important step in moving the mobile network authentication schemes to present-day crypto approaches :-) With regards to the IPR question, I want to stay away from discussing anyone’s licensing conditions, as I don’t

Re: [Emu] WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

> On Nov 10, 2018, at 5:52 AM, Dr. Pala wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am in favor of addressing the issue of PFS in 3GPP authentication - it is > important work that moves cellular network authentication towards more modern > approaches and more compatible with IETF technologies. > > This

Re: [Emu] WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

Hi all, I am in favor of addressing the issue of PFS in 3GPP authentication - it is important work that moves cellular network authentication towards more modern approaches and more compatible with IETF technologies. This said, I am concerned about the fact that the IPR is not marked as

Re: [Emu] WG adoption call for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs

Please note there are IPR disclosure for draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs-03.txt available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft=draft-arkko-eap-aka-pfs .. Thanks, Joe On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:13 AM Joseph Salowey wrote: > At