Re: [Enigmail] UI Proposal

2016-03-24 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 03/24/16 21:35, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> cleartext message. "Red alert" is the wrong model UNLESS it is an error >> or threat for a particular user to EVER receive an unsigned cleartext >> message, and that is a tiny, tiny fraction of the Enigmail userbase. > > If we get a bad signature, I

Re: [Enigmail] UI Proposal

2016-03-24 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> cleartext message. "Red alert" is the wrong model UNLESS it is an error > or threat for a particular user to EVER receive an unsigned cleartext > message, and that is a tiny, tiny fraction of the Enigmail userbase. If we get a bad signature, I want a clear warning to be sent up. Bad

Re: [Enigmail] UI Proposal

2016-03-24 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Sorry for answering so slowly. I like the idea very much, but I think > we could even go a step further, at least for non-advanced users: a > simple symbol with just 3 colors: This was, in fact, the proposal I originally pitched at IFF. The trainers I spoke with were mildly in favor of it, but

Re: [Enigmail] UI Proposal

2016-03-24 Thread Ola Bini
Hi, Just keep in mind cultural connotations of colors - and also the high rate of red-green color blindness in men. Cheers -- Ola Bini (https://olabini.se) "Yields falsehood when quined" yields falsehood when quined. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Enigmail] UI Proposal

2016-03-24 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
On 23.03.16 09:56, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > I propose replacing our current Enigmail bar in the Message View with an > "Enigmal Privacy Readout". Forget messages about "UNTRUSTED Good > Signature from..." etc. We reduce it down to three icons, representing > the status of the message privacy,

Re: [Enigmail] UI Proposal

2016-03-23 Thread Doug Barton
I like this proposal generally, but I'd like to suggest two modifications: 1. Take the semantic that you proposed for the wax seal (greyed out, "lit" for positive integrity, broken for integrity failure) and extend it to the other two icons. For the foreseeable future the overwhelming

Re: [Enigmail] UI Proposal

2016-03-23 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Looks like quite some work though (and icons aren't simple since they > should fit in different themes). > Volunteers for coding/drawing/testing? I had some conversations with organizations at IFF who are willing to pay money to fund new Enigmail development. I demurred on accepting or

Re: [Enigmail] UI Proposal

2016-03-23 Thread Olav Seyfarth
Hi Robert, Three icons (for privacy, accountability, and integrity) should be a lot easier for newcomers to understand. full ACK! Along with an easy way to get the gory details if one wishes to inspect them. Looks like quite some work though (and icons