Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-03 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 12/02/15 13:59, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > E-mail lists (or NNTP, darn it! ❤gmane❤) are less obnoxious than > every software program using their own individual web-based forums > (never mind that web-based forums - and web-based e-mail, for that > matter - are just generally more annoying), and

Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-03 Thread Samir Nassar
On Thursday, December 03, 2015 10:43:54 AM Mike Acker wrote: > I was horrified to learn that T-Bird would switch to OpenPGP > in order to comply with Mozilla's demand that all code be in JavaScript This is not happening and I would encourage you to not post unverified information that is

Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-03 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Even in corporate settings? Especially in corporate settings. Most employees don't like email and try to avoid it. Most of what enters an employee's corporate inbox is spam generated by that same corporation: company-wide emails that really should've been sent to a small group, invitations to

Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-02 Thread Mike Acker
Linux Mozilla :-[  my bad this is nonetheless an interesting development.   on the one hand I'd hate to see Thunderbird lapse and become inconsequential .    OTH this could be an opportunity for T-Bird to break away from Mozilla policy -- which might not be

Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-02 Thread Mike Acker
I have to agree with your remarks although I'd like to add that, in my view, eMail use will approach a horizontal asymptote: ending as a sort of "good old standby".    "FWIW" I think more and more people are recognizing the issues with "social media" and this

Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-02 Thread Stephen
On 02.12.2015 at 19:38 Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> this is nonetheless an interesting development. on the one hand I'd >> hate to see Thunderbird lapse and become inconsequential . > > To a large extent it already has. Email usage has been declining for > many years. The largest

Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-02 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> E-mail remains the primary form of written communication in business, This depends a lot on your business. I know a fair number of businesspeople who rely on SMS far more than they do email. Skype for Business, Lync, and Google Hangouts are also transforming how business communicates.

Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-02 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 12/02/15 14:51, Stephen wrote: > If anything, it is the market for stand-alone mail clients that is > diminishing. Webmail is accessible from any computer with a reasonably > modern web-browser. This is probably how a large majority now use > e-mail. Most people cannot be bothered with the

Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-02 Thread charlton.aus...@gmail.com
On 12/2/15 3:50 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On 12/02/15 14:51, Stephen wrote: >> If anything, it is the market for stand-alone mail clients that is >> diminishing. Webmail is accessible from any computer with a reasonably >> modern web-browser. This is probably how a large majority now use >>

Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-02 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/2/2015 11:48 AM, Mike Acker wrote: > i terms of e/mail though -- and I suspect most folks would agree -- the > trend seems to be to web-base clients -- although these seem to be > sluggish and messy . Some of our firm's clients are sensitive security entities, and as a result we are not

Re: [Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-02 Thread Charlton Austin
Definitely. ProtonMail is pretty legit. It is open source (at least the client) and seems to do full end to end encryption. The only problem with ProtonMail is that you don't have control over the private key that's generated. Also you have to trust (check the client throughly) to make sure your

[Enigmail] separation from Mozilla

2015-12-02 Thread Mike Acker
the news I'm reading LWN suggests that Thunderbird's separation from Linux -- is is done deal hopefully Thunderbird will just become its own project thoughts,-anyone? -- /Mike signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature