[Enigmail]Re: Enigmail 3.1.2 (20230121-1152): Error message on Debian

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 26.01.2023 21:29, Dr. Simon Donkey via enigmail-users wrote:
> I'm getting this error message on Debian when starting my e-mail client:
> 
>> Enigmail: Error in accessing Enigmail service
>>
>> In order to use Enigmail with GnuPG, you need the additional component
> "gpgme-json",
>> which is not installed by default on some platforms. If you are on
> Windows, then you
>> should install gpg4win and enable Kleopatra in order to obtain
> gpgme-json. Once GnuPG
>> is set up correctly use the "Setup Wizard" button below to complete
> the configuration
>> of Enigmail.
> This started after the Enigmail 3.1.2 update was pushed.
> 
> How do I install this package on Debian Buster?
> 
> I can change Enigmail to use OpenPGP.js but then I can't access my
> system's keychain.


It looks like gpgme-json is not available on all Linux distributions
:-(. I created a static build of gpgme-json that is available from:
https://enigmail.net/download/gpgme-json/

HTH
-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Do not decrypt automatically

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Once you enabled the expert option, you have to close the preferences dialog, 
and then open the Enigmail menu again. It's the first menu item.

Patrick

16.08.2021 08:24:49 Fourhundred Thecat <400the...@gmx.ch>:

>> On 2021-08-15 08:41, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> Fourhundred Thecat wrote on 14.08.2021 12:24:
>>> 
>>> I am using enigmail 2.1.3 on Thunderbird 68.
>>> In earlier versions, there used to be an option:
>>> 
>>>   "Do not decrypt automatically"
>>> 
>>> I cannot find this option anymore.
>> 
>> Open the menu Enigmail > Preferences and click on the button "Display
>> Expert Menus and Settings". Then open the Enigmail menu again; your
>> missing item is at the top.
> 
> Thank you, but I still cannot find it, even in the expert settings.
> 
> There are these tabs:
> 
> "Basic" "Sending" "Key Selection" "Advanced" "Keyserver" "Transfer Settings"
> 
> under which tab should this option be?
> 
> I have made a screesnhot and uploaded it here:
> 
> https://paste.pics/12c9891d0ae96eb69c7e1351d8d7bfd3
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Re: [Enigmail] Do not decrypt automatically

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Fourhundred Thecat wrote on 14.08.2021 12:24:
> Hello,
> 
> I am using enigmail 2.1.3 on Thunderbird 68.
> 
> In earlier versions, there used to be an option:
> 
>   "Do not decrypt automatically"
> 
> I cannot find this option anymore.
> 
> Now whenever I select encrypted message, automatically it wants to
> decrypt it, and the enter-password-dialog comes up.
> 
> This is extremely annoying, because I basically cannot delete a message
> without decrypting it first.
> 
> When the automatic decryption could be disabled in earlier versions,
> when I clicked on message, I only saw the actual gpg text. Only when I
> clicked on "decrypt", only then was I asked for password.
> 
> How can I get same behavior in enigmail 2.1.3 ?

Open the menu Enigmail > Preferences and click on the button "Display
Expert Menus and Settings". Then open the Enigmail menu again; your
missing item is at the top.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Extended Support for Enigmail on Thunderbird 68

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Thunderbird 91 was released yesterday. The support for Enigmail on
Thunderbird will thus end on October 1, 2021.

-Patrick

Patrick Brunschwig wrote on 13.12.2020 18:57:
> The migration from Thunderbird 68 to version 78 is more or less
> complete. According to addons.thunderbird.net, still roughly a third of
> all users (around 35k) are still on Enigmail 2.1.8, and hence did not
> migrate to Thunderbird 78.
> 
> Given that this is still quite a large user base, I have decided to
> continue to support and maintain Enigmail 2.1.x for some more time. I
> will support Enigmail for Thunderbird 68 until 2 months after the next
> major version of Thunderbird has been released (the current plan is TB
> 91 in July 2021).
> 
> What can you expect during the extended support time?
> * Bug fixing
> * Support with setting up and using Enigmail
> * No new features or changed features




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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v3.0 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I am happy to announce Enigmail v3.0 for Interlink Mail & News and Postbox.

Please note that Enigmail 3.0 does not support Thunderbird.

Major Changes since v2.1


This release introduces a new backend that allows to use different
OpenPGP implementations. Currently, OpenPGP.js (natively built into
Enigmail) and GnuPG are supported. By default, if GnuPG is found and at
least one private key is available in GnuPG, then GnuPG will be used for
crypto-operations. If GnuPG is not found or seems unused, then
OpenPGP.js will be used. OpenPGP.js is included in Enigmail and does not
require any further downloads.

The OpenPGP.js implementation of Enigmail contains a very simple trust
model. Any new key is trusted by default. If you don't want to trust a
key, you can distrust it (which acts similarly to disabling a key in
GnuPG). I might add something like TOFU in a future version of Enigmail,
but that's not yet decided. If you require a more sophisticated trust
model, you should use the GnuPG backend instead.

Future versions of Enigmail will support additional OpenPGP
implementations, such as SOP. In particular, the current GnuPG backend
that accessed gpg directly will be replaced with functionality that
requires gpgme-json. Enigmail will no longer directly access GnuPG for
crypto- functions.



Fixed defects
-

In addition to the above, we fixed several defects:


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Re: [Enigmail] Multiple email address

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Antoine Polatouche wrote on 12.04.2021 16:33:
> Hi there,
> 
> I just upgraded to ubuntu 20.04 so, to thunderbird 78.
> The Enigmail assistant do the migration, and all is working well.
> 
> I use to send mails to a friend which has multiple email addresses.
> With Enigmail, I could register an unique key for several email addresses.
> I've not found how to do that with Thunderbird.
> 
> Do you know if the same feature is available with Thunderbird 78?

Assume you buy a new car, a different brand than the old one from a
different car dealer than last time. Would you then ask the dealer of
your old car how your new car works ...?

Support for Thunderbird is available from here:
https://support.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird

-Patrick


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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird 78

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Onno Ekker wrote on 06.01.2021 20:03:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm a little confused about still getting updates for Enigmail on
> Thunderbird 78. Today I noticed an upgrade to version Enigmail 2.2.4.1.
> 
> I was under the assumption that Enigmail stopped working with
> Thunderbird 78, because XUL overlay extensions were dropped and that you
> don't need it anymore, because of integrated support for OpenPGP.
> 
> So why is there still a new version for Thunderbird 78? What's the added
> value for having both integrated OpenPGP and the Enigmail extension?

As explained in [1], there is an assistant to help you migrating your
keys and settings from GnuPG/Enigmail to TB 78. I wrote that piece of
software and labelled it Enigmail 2.2, such that existing users of
Enigmail can smoothly migrate to TB 78 without needing to install
something manually.

Not surprisingly, every piece of software needs some maintenance from
time to time -- that's why you got an update. As long as you don't
uninstall Enigmail, you can expect to receive updates to it from time to
time.

-Patrick


[1]
https://admin.hostpoint.ch/pipermail/enigmail-users_enigmail.net/2020-August/005700.html



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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.1.9 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I'm happy to announce Enigmail version 2.1.9 for Thunderbird 68,
Interlink Mail & News 52.9 and Postbox 7.

Changes
---
This release addresses a several defects. The full list of fixed bugs is
available from here:
https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/search/?q=status%3Afixed+%26%26+_fixed%3A2.1.9



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Re: [Enigmail] keys generator - other email

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Alex Moricone wrote on 14.11.2020 13:40:
> Hi,
> 
> what is this option for?
> 
> 
> 
> I tried to generate keys for other known me email address. I would like
> to generate keys for tests to use in other email aplication. I thought
> when this box is unchecked, I could input any email address (even non
> existent) :( But it doesn't work.
> 
> Any help? :) Regards

The idea of the box is that, when checked, the account will be
configured to use the new generated key.

As Enigmail is a mail extension, it does not have a function to create
keys for email addresses that you didn't configure in Thunderbird.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Disabling header encryption in built-in OpenPGP mode

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Hernâni Marques (p≡p foundation) wrote on 10.11.2020 02:04:
> Dear folks
> 
> I'm testing the built-in OpenPGP mode for TB 78 and was wondering how
> the header protection (activated by default when using encryption) can
> be deactivated.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --hernani
> 
> PS:
> In the config editor, I could just find a suitable enigmail.* variable,
> but not one for the built-in mode as of TB 78.

Thunderbird OpenPGP is not Enigmail.

I'd suggest you ask at the Thunderbird e2ee (end-to-end encryption)
mailing list.
https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/e2ee

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Importing PGP key via code

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 01/11/2020 19:29, it_support via enigmail-users wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> i have asked bugzilla how to import a PGP key file via Javascript (i will run 
> it from the Thunderbird console).
> 
> But they told me they don't give add-on support there. So i guess i have to 
> ask you about this.

That answer is wrong. The code is in Thunderbird, and not in an add-on.
> 
> Anyway, i have found the functions i need to call to do this:
> 
> it's getGpgKeyData
> 
> from 
> https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/file/595dddfbd18b/mail/extensions/openpgp/content/modules/cryptoAPI/gnupg-keylist.jsm
> 
> or  importKeyFromFileAPI
> 
> from 
> https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/file/595dddfbd18b/mail/extensions/openpgp/content/modules/cryptoAPI/gnupg-key.jsm
> 
> But both of them are not implemented. Indeed they do nothing other than 
> throwing a "Not implemented" exception.
> 
> Are you going to implement those methods soon? Or do you suggest another 
> solution?

I can't give a definitive answer because I'm not a Thunderbird staff
member. But from my POV it's most unlikely that these functions will
ever be implemented. Thunderbird uses RNP, and does not support GnuPG
(apart for some basic functions for signing and decryption). I think
these files are a left-over from the code imported from Thunderbird and
are not used anymore.

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 23.10.2020 15:57, Andreas Hirsch wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Patrick Brunschwig schrieb am 25.09.2020 um 07:31:
>> On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:
> 
>>> Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system.
>>> I would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test
>>> it on a separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor
>>> GPG4Win on it at all.
>>>
>>> How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my 
>>> private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be
>>> re-downloaded off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm
>>> just not sure how best to handle the PGP keys.
>>
>> Read the following article: 
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/
> 
> 'With the Thunderbird 78.2.1 release, OpenPGP in Thunderbird is
> considered complete, and upgrading of installations from Thunderbird 68
> to 78 was activated.'
> 
> In the meantime, only at one pc in my bussines and private relations
> migration was offered.
> 
> So I have two questions:
> 
> - do you have any information wether the automatic migration process
> hast been stopped?

Automatic migration has been enabled and re-disabled a few times due to
bugs and problems with TB 78. AFAIK, migration should currently be
enabled, but a low rate.

> - do you recommend to start migration by hand?

I can't give a recommendation. But here is a thought: if the Thunderbird
developers would be 100% convinced that everything is perfectly fine,
they would probably push migration more actively and at a higher rate
than they do.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Migration Screen Suggestion

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 18.10.2020 13:25, Perry Gibson wrote:
> Hello there,
> 
> I recently upgraded Thunderbird, and had some migration issues from
> Enigmail.  It has served me well for many years, so first thank you to
> all of the developers and contributors over its lifespan.
> 
> You can see my issue, and its solution here
> .
>  
> However, I think it could be avoided for many users who will be
> upgrading over the next few months by adding some text on the Enigmail
> migration screen that explicitly re-adding your key in your Account
> Settings may be necessary.  I lost a fair bit of time to it, and would
> prefer that others didn't.

Actually, the Enigmail migrator does exactly what you expected: if you
configured your account to use a key ID, it would set the key ID in
Thunderbird; if you configured your account to use the email address,
then Enigmail would try to find a key with a matching email address. If
such a key is found, then the key ID of that address will be configured
in Enigmail.

This looks like either the wizard did not complete successfully, or none
of the keys have a user ID with that email address.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Obsolete PGP encryption method

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 05.10.2020 12:35, it_support via enigmail-users wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> i am encrypting emails via PGP on mail server, and i have not the
> possibility to sign them because i can only have the public keys
> available on server.
> 
> So when i download the emails with Thunderbird , they are PGP encrypted
> but not signed.
> 
> When i open these emails with Thunderbird, i get an error saying the
> message has been encrypted by an obsolete method, and may have been
> modified during transmission, so it will not be displayed.
> 
> I guess the problem is missing signature? Is there a way to tell
> Enigmail to ignore the missing signature and decrypt the message anyway?

From your email headers I determine that you're using Thunderbird 78.
Thunderbird 78 contains built-in OpenPGP support -- Enigmail is only
used to migrate your settings.

In other words, I'm sorry, but this has nothing to do with Enigmail
anymore. My best guess is that MDC-protection was not enabled.

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] Signed sources for Enigmail 2.2.3

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 27.09.2020 17:55, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> Interesting as it is not showing up for my 68 install. I went to
>> addons.thunderbird.net and here is what it shows for 2.2.3
> 
> TB 77 is not an officially-supported TB release: there's TB 68, then a
> series of intermediate releases meant for testing, then TB 78.  At some
> point between TB 68 and TB 78, Thunderbird removed the XUL interface
> toolkit Enigmail depends upon.
> 
> I don't know why it says it works with 77.0a1 and later, and I'm not
> going to speculate as to Patrick's reasons except to say I suspect it's
> connected to the migration tool.  I will say that Enigmail does not work
> with TB 78 and later, and TB 77.0a1 is not an official mass-release TB
> version.
> 
> We have always advised using TB with official, supported TB versions.
> Using it with other releases is entirely at your own risk.

In any case: Enigmail 2.2.x is the Migration version of Enigmail for
Thunderbird 78. It works technically with Thunderbird 77 and newer.

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] Signed sources for Enigmail 2.2.3

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 27.09.2020 01:29, Jonas Witschel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I noticed that Enigmail 2.2.3 was released on addons.thunderbird.net on 
> 2020-09-23, but cannot be downloaded from enigmail.net, neither in packaged 
> [1] nor in source [2] form. Would it be possible to upload signed sources for 
> this release as well, please?

Done. Sorry, I was in a hurry to release the new version before TB 78.3
would be available.

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Am 26. September 2020 04:54:41 MESZ schrieb Phil Kane :
>The move of my originating key pair from TB68 to TB78 on a Win 10 laptop
>went very smoothly.  OpenPGP Key Manager permits me to see that key but
>not the public keys from other people, as was done by Kleopatra.  The
>"Show keys from other people" box in the OpenPGP Key Manager was
>checked.  Did I miss something or is this a bug in OpenPGP?
>
>Phil Kane
>Beaverton, OR  USA
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If you used the Enigmail migration wizard, it would import all public and 
secret keys. But I think that you only imported your own key manually.

To import all your public keys, first export all of them from Kleopatra or 
GnuPG, and then import using the OpenPGP key manager.

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Re: [Enigmail] TB60.9.1/Enigmail2.0.12/undefined

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Yes, they are, but it's not common to have brackets after the actual
email address.

In any case, Enigmail 2.0.12 is EOL, and I would not fix it anymore...

-Patrick

On 25/09/2020 07:46, B00ze/Empire wrote:
> Hi Patrick.
> 
> This used to work before, so something has changed.
> 
> On your advice I edited the message header and did what stripEmail
> should've done - I removed the brackets etc and kept only the email
> address, and now Enigmail is able to process the message. Based on the
> error in the log, I was under the impression that stripEmail's job was
> to sanitize email addresses, brackets are a common thing, no?
> 
> Thank you.
> Best Regards,
> 
> On 2020-09-23 01:47, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> Am 23. September 2020 06:35:03 MESZ schrieb B00ze/Empire
>> :
>>
>> Good day.
>>
>> I seem to be having an issue with TB60.9.1 and Enigmail 2.0.12.
>> It is able to decrypt messages I have SENT, but seems to ignore messages 
>> I have received completely.
>> Enigmail supposed to be working with that version of TB?
>>
>> The log looks like this ->
>>
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.051 [DEBUG] enigmailMsgHdrViewOverlay.js: 
>> this.messageLoad
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.051 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>> messageAutoDecrypt:
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.051 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>> messageDecrypt: null
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.051 [DEBUG] enigmailCommon.jsm: newStreamListener
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.054 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>> messageDecryptCb:
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: header 
>> content-transfer-encoding: '7bit'
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: header 
>> x-enigmail-version: ''
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: header 
>> x-pgp-encoding-format: ''
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: header 
>> autocrypt-setup-message: ''
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>> createArtificialAutocryptHeader
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [ERROR] funcs.jsm: stripEmail: Invalid <..> 
>> brackets in mail address: 'Adele  (The friendly 
>> OpenPGP email robot)'
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [ERROR] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>> messageDecryptCb: caught exception: undefined
>> Message: 'undefined'
>> File:    undefined
>> Line:    undefined
>> Stack:   undefined
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:59.166 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>> updateOptionsDisplay:
>> 2020-09-23 00:09:59.166 [DEBUG] funcs.jsm: collapseAdvanced:
>> 2020-09-23 00:10:00.373 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>> updateOptionsDisplay:
>> 2020-09-23 00:10:00.374 [DEBUG] funcs.jsm: collapseAdvanced:
>> 2020-09-23 00:10:02.277 [DEBUG] enigmailHelp.js: enigLoadPage
>> 2020-09-23 00:10:02.277 [DEBUG] windows.jsm: getFrame: name=contentFrame
>>
>> This TB60.9 is full of issues :-(
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Enigmail 2.0.12 works with TB 60. I think that decryption fails
>> because Enigmail could not handle the User ID of Adele properly.
>> That's what the exception is about.
>>
>> Patrick
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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Yes, that's a possible approach. You won't need Enigmail afterwards anymore.

-Patrick

On 25/09/2020 07:44, Mark wrote:
> Thanks from my read of it I gather (as I'm starting with a blank
> slate on that other machine) I would need to first install GPG4Win on it
> and then copy my key files to that PC. I would then install TB78 and
> also the "migration edition" of Enigmail to import the keys into TB78's
> OpenPGP "database" 
> 
> Is that correct? 
> 
> If so, is there a need to leave that version of Enigmail installed after
> the initial importation of those keys?
> 
> Thanks Again
> 
> On 9/24/2020 10:31 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:
>>> Forgive me if this is a bit off-topic but I hope someone can give me
>>> some tips.
>>>
>>> Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system. I
>>> would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test it on a
>>> separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor GPG4Win on it at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my
>>> private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be re-downloaded
>>> off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm just not sure how
>>> best to handle the PGP keys.
>> Read the following article:
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>>




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Re: [Enigmail] Best way to move to TB 78

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On 25.09.2020 07:28, Mark wrote:
> Forgive me if this is a bit off-topic but I hope someone can give me
> some tips.
> 
> Currently I'm using TB 68 with Enigmail and GPG4Win on one system. I
> would like to try out TB 78 with it's Open PGP but want to test it on a
> separate machine which does not have TB, Enigmail, nor GPG4Win on it at
> all.
> 
> How would be the best way to accomplish this so that it imports my
> private and public keys into it?  The mail itself can be re-downloaded
> off the servers so not real worried about that. I'm just not sure how
> best to handle the PGP keys.

Read the following article:
https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/announce/thread/7dcd29e5f9/

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Re: [Enigmail] Import Key Issues

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On 24/09/2020 07:53, Mark wrote:
> I'm still using Thunderbird 68.12.0 with Enigmail 2.1.8 (20200906-1507)
> and experienced a problem when trying to import a key within Enigmail.
> It found the key OK but when I hit OK to import it, nothing happened. It
> just sat there and even after several minutes, nothing... It didn't
> import the key nor give any kind of error message. Cancel also would not
> respond so I had to close that entire window.
> 
> Any idea what was happening with it?

Sometimes GnuPG waits for a (stale) lock to be released before it would
start to do something. Check if there are running gpg process(es). As
long as you find running instances of gpg.exe, key import will not finish.

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Re: [Enigmail] TB60.9.1/Enigmail2.0.12/undefined

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Am 23. September 2020 06:35:03 MESZ schrieb B00ze/Empire :
>Good day.
>
>I seem to be having an issue with TB60.9.1 and Enigmail 2.0.12.
>It is able to decrypt messages I have SENT, but seems to ignore messages 
>I have received completely.
>Enigmail supposed to be working with that version of TB?
>
>The log looks like this ->
>
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.051 [DEBUG] enigmailMsgHdrViewOverlay.js: 
>this.messageLoad
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.051 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>messageAutoDecrypt:
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.051 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>messageDecrypt: null
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.051 [DEBUG] enigmailCommon.jsm: newStreamListener
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.054 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>messageDecryptCb:
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: header 
>content-transfer-encoding: '7bit'
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: header 
>x-enigmail-version: ''
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: header 
>x-pgp-encoding-format: ''
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: header 
>autocrypt-setup-message: ''
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>createArtificialAutocryptHeader
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [ERROR] funcs.jsm: stripEmail: Invalid <..> 
>brackets in mail address: 'Adele  (The friendly 
>OpenPGP email robot)'
>2020-09-23 00:09:57.055 [ERROR] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>messageDecryptCb: caught exception: undefined
>Message: 'undefined'
>File:    undefined
>Line:    undefined
>Stack:   undefined
>2020-09-23 00:09:59.166 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>updateOptionsDisplay:
>2020-09-23 00:09:59.166 [DEBUG] funcs.jsm: collapseAdvanced:
>2020-09-23 00:10:00.373 [DEBUG] enigmailMessengerOverlay.js: 
>updateOptionsDisplay:
>2020-09-23 00:10:00.374 [DEBUG] funcs.jsm: collapseAdvanced:
>2020-09-23 00:10:02.277 [DEBUG] enigmailHelp.js: enigLoadPage
>2020-09-23 00:10:02.277 [DEBUG] windows.jsm: getFrame: name=contentFrame
>
>This TB60.9 is full of issues :-(
>
>Regards,
>
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Enigmail 2.0.12 works with TB 60. I think that decryption fails because 
Enigmail could not handle the User ID of Adele properly. That's what the 
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Re: [Enigmail] TB 78 - Problems with importing keys

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On 20.09.2020 21:08, Juergen Bruckner via enigmail-users wrote:
> Hello fellow list-members,
> 
> I know not really the correct list for my issue, but I thought I give it
> a try.
> 
> does anyone already use Thunderbird 78, I have issues with importing my
> PGP-Keys.
> I can choose the keyfile, and when trying to import I have 'neverending'
> password-requests. Could there be a issue with that, that I just use
> subkeys on productive systems?

This is indeed not supported by Thunderbird. You can still use that
setup, but you'll have to treat the key like a key on a smartcard.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:OpenPGP:Smartcards

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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

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On 09/09/2020 01:09, Mark wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation of how pEp is connected to this. I do have a
> few other questions that hopefully you will answer.
> 
> 1) What does the pEp addon do in addition to or better than the built in
> OpenPGP? In other words what are the advantages to installing this
> add-on over the built in support?  

Again, please read the pEp documentation, or ask the pEp people. I'm not
affiliated to pEp, so I won't answer this.

> 2) Can you explain the differences between pEp junior and classic modes?

In Junior mode, there is no visible key management, and almost no
possibility to configure anything. You automatically get a key for all
your accounts, and encryption is done automatically whenever possible.
You don't need to care for it in most ways. Key verfication is done via
a handshake that uses trust words instead of fingerprints. In theory,
there would be key synchronization across devices, but that was not
finished in the pEp engine for Enigmail (AFAIK, it's now available in
pEp). The UI is different than Enigmail.


-Patrick

> On 9/7/2020 10:40 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> On 07.09.2020 21:55, Phil Kane wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2020 11:35 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>>
>>>> pEp for Thunderbird is not Enigmail. You won't receive an Enigmail
>>>> version that will work with TB 78.
>>> If that is the case, just what is pEp?  What does it replace?
>> The main idea of pEp is to provide message security without bothering
>> the user as much as possible. User should not need to deal with key
>> management and should not need to care to enable encryption manually.
>>
>> If you want to know what pEp is, then read the following:
>> https://www.pep.security/en/faq/
>>
>> Enigmail 2.0 and 2.1 contains a pEp Junior Mode. In this mode, Enigmail
>> uses the pEp engine for crypto-operations, and the user interface is
>> reduced to a very small set of security indicators and dialogs.
>>
>> As Enigmail will not support TB 78, the pEp developers decided to create
>> their own add-on from scratch. The add-on is the quasi-continuation of
>> the pEp Junior Mode. Those who use Enigmail in the pEp Junior Mode are
>> offered to move to that new pEp for Thunderbird addon instead of being
>> migrated to OpenPGP in Thunderbird.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

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On 07.09.2020 21:55, Phil Kane wrote:
> On 9/6/2020 11:35 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> 
>> pEp for Thunderbird is not Enigmail. You won't receive an Enigmail
>> version that will work with TB 78.
> 
> If that is the case, just what is pEp?  What does it replace?

The main idea of pEp is to provide message security without bothering
the user as much as possible. User should not need to deal with key
management and should not need to care to enable encryption manually.

If you want to know what pEp is, then read the following:
https://www.pep.security/en/faq/

Enigmail 2.0 and 2.1 contains a pEp Junior Mode. In this mode, Enigmail
uses the pEp engine for crypto-operations, and the user interface is
reduced to a very small set of security indicators and dialogs.

As Enigmail will not support TB 78, the pEp developers decided to create
their own add-on from scratch. The add-on is the quasi-continuation of
the pEp Junior Mode. Those who use Enigmail in the pEp Junior Mode are
offered to move to that new pEp for Thunderbird addon instead of being
migrated to OpenPGP in Thunderbird.

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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

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Am 7. September 2020 06:18:46 MESZ schrieb Mark :
>So then would it legitimate to have a version of Enigmail that continued
>to work with TB 78? :)
>
>Just curious as to what is p≡p is doing differently (better?) over the
>default Open PGP implementation. We kept hearing they were doing this to
>make it more streamlined and not require additional add-ons but now we
>have an add-on. I'm not trying to be confrontational but honestly
>wondering  why.
>
>Thanks
>
>On 9/6/2020 12:08 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> The philosophy of pEp is different than the one of Thunderbird. It's
>> perfectly legitimate that there's more than one solution for encryption.
>>
>> The Enigmail migrator in TB 78 is only for users of the classical mode
>> of Enigmail. Users of pEp are offered to install pEp for Thunderbird.
>> And this is now also prepared in Enigmail for TB 68.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>> On 06.09.2020 19:39, Mark wrote:
>>> Little confused here with the messages about p≡p. If Thunderbird 78 has
>>> built in OpenPGP and we no longer use Enigmail/GPG4Win, what is this
>>> addon for?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On 8/30/2020 12:33 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>>> On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote:
>>>>> FYI:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by
>>>>> default in version 78.2.0
>>>>>
>>>>> It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and
>>>>> testing by volunteers.  It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1
>>>> Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According
>>>> to the release notes:
>>>>
>>>> Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from
>>>> https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version
>>>> 68 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier
>>>> versions. Automatic updates are available for users already running
>>>> version 78.0 or higher.
>>>>
>>>> -Patrick
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pEp for Thunderbird is not Enigmail. You won't receive an Enigmail version that 
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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

[Patrick Brunschwig]

The philosophy of pEp is different than the one of Thunderbird. It's
perfectly legitimate that there's more than one solution for encryption.

The Enigmail migrator in TB 78 is only for users of the classical mode
of Enigmail. Users of pEp are offered to install pEp for Thunderbird.
And this is now also prepared in Enigmail for TB 68.

-Patrick

On 06.09.2020 19:39, Mark wrote:
> Little confused here with the messages about p≡p. If Thunderbird 78 has
> built in OpenPGP and we no longer use Enigmail/GPG4Win, what is this
> addon for?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On 8/30/2020 12:33 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote:
>>> FYI:
>>>
>>> The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by
>>> default in version 78.2.0
>>>
>>> It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and
>>> testing by volunteers.  It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1
>> Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According
>> to the release notes:
>>
>> Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from
>> https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version
>> 68 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier
>> versions. Automatic updates are available for users already running
>> version 78.0 or higher.
>>
>> -Patrick



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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.1.8 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I'm happy to announce Enigmail version 2.1.8 for Thunderbird 68,
Interlink Mail & News 52.9 and Postbox 7.

Changes
---
* Prepared Enigmail to upgrade users of the pEp Junior Mode to the
  new pEp for Thunderbird add-on
* Several defects with the "encrypt to key" features were fixed
* Disable autocrypt header if custom sender addresses are used
* Fixed VKS keyserver access with custom port
* Fixed Thunderbird crash if sending a signed empty-bodied mail


The full list of fixed bugs is available from here:
https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/bugs/search/?q=status%3Afixed+%26%26+_fixed%3A2.1.8



Obtaining Enigmail
--
Enigmail can be downloaded from
https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/download/

The changelog is available from
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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird install

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 02.09.2020 23:13, Larry Boucher wrote:
> I’ve created the {847b3a00-7ab1-11d4-8f02-006008948af5} folder in
> Program Files\Mozilla Thunderbird and added the unzipped .xpi files
> (chrome folder and three files) to it.  I then started Thunderbird but
> there was no Enigmail ikon on the menubar.  What am I doing wrong?

According to http://kb.mozillazine.org/Installing_extensions, global
installations need to go to
\extensions

That would be:
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Thunderbird\extensions\
{847b3a00-7ab1-11d4-8f02-006008948af5}

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Re: [Enigmail] thunderbird 78

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 01.09.2020 22:32, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> since thunderbird 78 doesnt need any enigmail. How long are you going
>> to support your thunderbird add-on?
> 
> At least until 2021.

Well no, that's definitely not what I wrote. At least until the end of
2020. And if I will extend support (which is not yet decided), then
*certainly* not for more than 6 additional months.

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Re: [Enigmail] thunderbird 78

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On 01.09.2020 11:34, rollstory wrote:
> Dear enigmailsupport team,
> 
> since thunderbird 78 doesnt need any enigmail. How long are you going to 
> support your thunderbird add-on? The problem i am having is, that the
> thunderbird 78 doesnt use your "empfängerregeln" (german word i have no 
> translation for), which i use extensively to encrypt mailling lists. But
> if there is no support i gonna have to stop this and switch to Schleuder. Can 
> you give me some advise=?


Read the following announcement. The last part, at the end of the mail
explains everything.

https://admin.hostpoint.ch/pipermail/enigmail-users_enigmail.net/2020-August/005700.html

-Patrick

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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP & Thunderbird 78.2.0

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 24.08.2020 21:39, Kai Engert wrote:
> FYI:
> 
> The Thunderbird team had originally announced to enable OpenPGP by
> default in version 78.2.0
> 
> It has been decided to slightly postpone this for final changes and
> testing by volunteers.  It's expected to be enabled in 78.2.1

Thunderbird 78.2.1 with OpenPGP enabled has been released now. According
to the release notes:

Thunderbird version 78.2.1 is only offered as direct download from
https://thunderbird.net and *not* as an upgrade from Thunderbird version
68 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier
versions. Automatic updates are available for users already running
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[Enigmail] Upgrading info for Thunderbird 78.2

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Thunderbird 78.2 will be released soon. With that release, OpenPGP in
Thunderbird is considered complete, and Enigmail users will start to be
upgraded to Thunderbird 78. What does this mean for you:

Together with the upgrade to Thunderbird 78.2, you should obtain a
new version of Enigmail (if not, check for updates in the Addons
Manager).

That new version of Enigmail is only a "Migration Version", which will
assist you with this move.

* If you use the Enigmail/pEp Junior Mode: a web page will be opened
automatically after the upgrade, from where you can download a new pEp
for Thunderbird Plugin (https://pep.software/thunderbird/). This plugin
replaces the Enigmail/pEp Junior mode and migrates all your keys and
settings. The new pEp for Thunderbird plugin is a full installer that
needs to be downloaded and installed on your computer. This new plug-in
will run in Thunderbird 68 and in new Thunderbird 78 versions. It will
work seamlessly with the pEp mobile clients for Android and iOS and
synchronize your keys and settings across all devices automatically.
More info on sync can be found in the documentation section on
https://www.pep.security/

* If you use the Enigmail "classical" mode: a wizard will be opened,
which allows you to transfer your keys and settings to Thunderbird.
Follow the steps in the wizard.


If you want to stick to Enigmail, then you have several options:

a) stick with Thunderbird 68. I will continue to support Enigmail for
Thunderbird 68 at least until the end of 2020. You can disable automatic
upgrading in the Thunderbird options. Please note that at some point you
will no longer receive security fixes for Thunderbird 68.

b) switch to Interlink Mail & News or Postbox. I will continue to
support Enigmail for these two platforms for the foreseeable future.

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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail for Interlink Mail & News

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I did not fork Thunderbird -- I'm not working on Interlink itself. I
simply provide Enigmail for an existing application that attracts more
and more users.

AFAICT, the fork was made by people who disagree, for various reasons,
with Mozilla's decision to abandon XUL.

-Patrick

lupa wrote on 06.08.2020 17:41:
> Sorry,
> 
> why did you made a TB fork?
> 
> El 6/8/20 a las 12:24, Patrick Brunschwig escribió:
>> I'm happy to announce that Enigmail now officially supports Interlink
>> Mail & News [1]. Interlink is a Free & Open Source fork of Thunderbird
>> 52 that is actively maintained and independent from Mozilla.
>>
>> I have ported Enigmail to Interlink. The current stable version 2.1.7 is
>> now officially available from both the Enigmail home page and the
>> Interlink Add-ons web site. I plan to support Enigmail for Interlink
>> beyond the foreseen end-of-life of Enigmail for Thunderbird.
>>
>> Compared to Enigmail for Thunderbird, the following features are different:
>> * no support for pEp Junior Mode
>> * creation of Inline-PGP messages is not possible
>> * the add-on is not restart-less
>>
>> Download Enigmail for Interlink:
>> https://interlink-addons.binaryoutcast.com/addon/enigmail/
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>> [1] https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/



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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail for Interlink Mail & News

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I'm happy to announce that Enigmail now officially supports Interlink
Mail & News [1]. Interlink is a Free & Open Source fork of Thunderbird
52 that is actively maintained and independent from Mozilla.

I have ported Enigmail to Interlink. The current stable version 2.1.7 is
now officially available from both the Enigmail home page and the
Interlink Add-ons web site. I plan to support Enigmail for Interlink
beyond the foreseen end-of-life of Enigmail for Thunderbird.

Compared to Enigmail for Thunderbird, the following features are different:
* no support for pEp Junior Mode
* creation of Inline-PGP messages is not possible
* the add-on is not restart-less

Download Enigmail for Interlink:
https://interlink-addons.binaryoutcast.com/addon/enigmail/

-Patrick

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Re: [Enigmail] jsunit and thunderbird 78

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 04/08/2020 19:09, Olivier Tilloy wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I couldn't find any information about the status of jsunit's support
> in thunderbird 78. Is it meant to work at all with the new thunderbird
> series?

I did not port JSUnit to TB 78.

Why do you ask? If you want to run unit tests on Enigmail 2.2 for TB 78,
then I can tell you that there are no unit tests for that version.

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Re: [Enigmail] Can TB's received mail overview indicate the signature/encryption state of e-mails?

[Patrick Brunschwig]

There is a pen icon and a key icon. The pen is for "signed" and the key
is for "encrypted". Both icons are only displayed if the corresponding
action was successful/valid.

Patrick

Mark wrote on 23.07.2020 19:40:
> Can you elaborate on what all it will indicate? The only icon I have
> seen in it is the pencil which I assume just means signed.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On 7/16/2020 10:00 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> Adalbert Hanßen wrote on 16.07.2020 08:02:
>>> Can Thunderbird's received mail overview indicate the signature/encryption 
>>> state of e-mails?
>>>
>>> I am thinking about an additional column with coloured dots at messages 
>>> with wrong signatures or on those can't be decrypted successfully.
>> Such a column is already available (Column Enigmail).
>>
>> -Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] Can TB's received mail overview indicate the signature/encryption state of e-mails?

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Adalbert Hanßen wrote on 16.07.2020 08:02:
> Can Thunderbird's received mail overview indicate the signature/encryption 
> state of e-mails?
> 
> I am thinking about an additional column with coloured dots at messages with 
> wrong signatures or on those can't be decrypted successfully.

Such a column is already available (Column Enigmail).

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail Buttons in Iconbar gone

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Olav Seyfarth wrote on 04.07.2020 02:57:
> Hi Jan-Peter,
> 
>> My Buttons for encryption and signatures are gone. Editing the IconBar
>> and adding the Buttons is not working. After closing the Mail Editor
>> and reopen they are gone again. How can I add them persistently?
> I confirm this behavior on Arch Linux TB 68.10.0 + EM  2.1.7
> (20200627-0916). One may modify TB buttons, these changes persist after
> closing and reopening TB, adding EM buttons disappear.
> 
> Please use the menu until this is confirmed as bug and fixed. Is this a
> Linux-only issue? You may permanently re-add the old-style menu, that
> makes it easier to access.

I don't have this issue on Debian Linux, using the official version from
the Thunderbird homepage. Is this maybe a specific problem with the TB
version produced by Arch Linux?

-Patrick

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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.2 (Migration Version) for Thunderbird 78 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

In preparation for the upcoming release of Thunderbird 78, have released
Enigmail 2.2.

Noteworthy Changes
==
As OpenPGP is now part of Thunderbird, this special version of Enigmail
only serves for migrating the keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG to
Thunderbird.

Enigmail 2.2 is only functional if you used Enigmail in Thunderbird 68
or earlier. Therefore, this release will not be available for download
from the Enigmail homepage, but only from addons.thunderbird.net.

As long as you'll continue to use Thunderbird 68, the new version will
not be offered to you -- you can continue to use Enigmail 2.1.x.

Future of Enigmail
==
I will continue to maintain and support Enigmail 2.1.x for Thunderbird
68 until at least Dec. 31, 2020. Depending on the adoption rate of
OpenPGP in Thunderbird 78, I might extend this for some more months.

I will also continue to develop and support Enigmail for Postbox for the
foreseeable time.


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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

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Bradley D. Thornton wrote on 03.07.2020 04:40:
[...]
>> Enigmail is available for:
> 
>> * Interlink (https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/), a
>> community-driven product.
> 
> 
>> Interlink is also maintained, but I'm not sure how actively and
>> things like security fixes.
> 
> 
> Okay thanks for that earlier clarification Patrick :)
> 
> Just to be clear, it doesn't matter what I do (allow or disable
> automatic updates). There will be no more support for enigmail in the
> future at all?

As already mentioned several times, I'll continue to support and
maintain Enigmail 2.1.x for Thunderbird 68 for at least 6 months after
the availability of Thunderbird 78. I might extend this for a few more
months, but not more.

> At this point, to continue using enigmail, I've frozen the updates on
> my workstations.

As long as TB 78.2 is not released, there is no need to disable updates.
Otherwise you'll miss security and stability updated for TB 68.

> The latest update to Interlink is a/o 07 June, so  three-ish weeks,
> and twice the previous month. It has Linux support but there is no
> SlackBuild package for Slackware, although that's trivial considering
> they have tarballs for GTK 2&3 at the dev's website.
> 
> I suppose it would be okay to move forward with OpenPGP in
> Thunderbird, but I've been using Enigmail for so long I just feel like
> I would be missing some kewl features that I've come to depend on.
> 
> Maybe some folks on this list could chime in on that last concern of mine?
In TB 78, the feature set will certainly be smaller than in Enigmail.
But you I expect that future versions of Thunderbird will add more
features to OpenPGP.

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Re: [Enigmail] postbox-inc.com

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Dmitry Alexandrov wrote on 01.07.2020 19:20:>>> Indeed, MPLʼs copyleft
is so weak, that a free code you get is not necessary any useful for an
user¹, but I supposed, that you, being a prominent extension developer
besides an end-user, might be interested in it nevertheless...
>>
>> Indeed, I do have access to the full source code. But I signed an NDA that 
>> does not allow me to share it.
> 
> Aha, thatʼs for sure explains why you have never interested in obtaining the 
> free part as free. ;-)

No, that's not the point.

> Anyway, the question whether there is something valuable in it
> remains open.  (Or does postbox-inc.com violates Mozillaʼs copyright
> by simply not providing it to the users?)
First of all, it is very clear to me since the first day of working on
Enigmail that the MPL will allow a company to use the source code,
modify it and publish a non-free version of it without needing to
release the free part. The MPL exists because of Netscape, the former
owner of the Mozilla source code. Netscape published the code under a
license that allowed it to publish its own derivative of the Mozilla
Suite in a non-free manner as they liked (which they did in the past).

There is no point of "being interested in obtaining the free part" for
MPL licensed code - you can't request it.

The Mozilla source code consists of roughly 20 millions lines of code,
and I know almost nothing of that code, apart of some of the APIs it
provides. Whether or not there is something valuable in the Postbox code
is totally irrelevant to me -- I seriously doubt that I would find it.

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Re: [Enigmail] postbox-inc.com

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Dmitry Alexandrov wrote on 01.07.2020 16:01:
> Patrick Brunschwig  wrote:
>> On 01/07/2020 03:40, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
>>> Patrick Brunschwig  wrote:
>>>> Enigmail is available for: * Postbox (https://postbox-inc.com), a 
>>>> commercial product
>>>
>>> Could you tell more about it, please?  Itʼs nonfree, is not it?
>>>
>>>> currently based on TB 52.
>>>
>>> Yet, being a fork of Thunderbird, it should have a substantial free part.  
>>> How large that part is?  Is is published?  Does it adds anything valuable 
>>> on top of Thunderbird?
>>>
>>
>> The Mozilla Public License allows to create closed-source software without 
>> the need to publish anything.
> 
> Sure.  No free software license mandates that anything must published.
> 
>> That is, there no published code.
> 
> Neither you, being a purchaser of ‘Postbox’, have ever downloaded it?

I downloaded it, and I'm even using it regularly ;-). This mail is
written on Postbox.

> Indeed, MPLʼs copyleft is so weak, that a free code you get is not necessary 
> any useful for an user¹, but I supposed, that you, being a prominent 
> extension developer besides an end-user, might be interested in it 
> nevertheless...

Indeed, I do have access to the full source code. But I signed an NDA
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Re: [Enigmail] postbox-inc.com (was: OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3)

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I'm not aware of such plans. But I could imagine, that if enough people
ask for such a version they would be willing to listen.

-Patrick

Juergen Bruckner via enigmail-users wrote on 01.07.2020 16:00:
> Hey Patrick,
> 
> do you know if the people behind Postbox are planning to release a
> Linux-Version of Postbox?
> 
> Could be also a good alternative on Linux-Plattforms
> 
> regards
> Juergen
> 
> Am 01.07.20 um 08:05 schrieb Patrick Brunschwig:
>> On 01/07/2020 03:40, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
>>> Patrick Brunschwig  wrote:
>>>> Enigmail is available for:
>>>> * Postbox (https://postbox-inc.com), a commercial product
>>> Could you tell more about it, please?  Itʼs nonfree, is not it?
>>>
>>>> currently based on TB 52.
>>> Yet, being a fork of Thunderbird, it should have a substantial free part.  
>>> How large that part is?  Is is published?  Does it adds anything valuable 
>>> on top of Thunderbird?
>>>
>> The Mozilla Public License allows to create closed-source software
>> without the need to publish anything. That is, there no published code.
>>
>> Postbox adds quite a bit of functionality and design to the user
>> interface. Just have a look on their homepage. If you scroll down you'll
>> see some of the things they added (including some screenshots).
>>
>> -Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] postbox-inc.com (was: OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3)

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 01/07/2020 03:40, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
> Patrick Brunschwig  wrote:
>> Enigmail is available for:
>> * Postbox (https://postbox-inc.com), a commercial product
> 
> Could you tell more about it, please?  Itʼs nonfree, is not it?
> 
>> currently based on TB 52.
> 
> Yet, being a fork of Thunderbird, it should have a substantial free part.  
> How large that part is?  Is is published?  Does it adds anything valuable on 
> top of Thunderbird?
> 

The Mozilla Public License allows to create closed-source software
without the need to publish anything. That is, there no published code.

Postbox adds quite a bit of functionality and design to the user
interface. Just have a look on their homepage. If you scroll down you'll
see some of the things they added (including some screenshots).

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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

[Patrick Brunschwig]

You can install Enigmail in Interlink from the Enigmail homepage (use
the latest version that was published for Thunderbird 52).

https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/download-old-versions

-Patrick


On 01/07/2020 00:18, Mark wrote:
> I've never heard of Interlink so went to check out the website. It looks
> like it might be an option depending on what TB 78.x looks like. Anyway
> I didn't see Enigmail listed on the extensions page for it 
> https://interlink-addons.binaryoutcast.com/extensions/
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/30/2020 1:08 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> Enigmail is available for:
>> * Postbox (https://postbox-inc.com), a commercial product
>> * Interlink (https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/), a
>> community-driven product.
>>
>> Both are currently based on TB 52. Postbox is actively maintained and
>> its UI differs quite a bit from Thunderbird (I think it's nicer, but
>> that's to some degree a matter of taste). Interlink is also maintained,
>> but I'm not sure how actively and things like security fixes.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

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Dr. Simon Donkey via enigmail-users wrote on 30.06.2020 21:57:
> 
> On 5/20/2020 4:23 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
>> Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
>> development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
>> but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
>> verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
>> experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.
>>
>> Details are available from the following post:
>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>>
>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>>
>> If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
>> you can install it from here:
>> https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
> Hello Patrick
> 
> Many thanks for working on Enigmail! Are there other clients beside
> Thunderbird that support it? I'm fed up with Thunderbird and ready to
> move on to greener pastures.


Enigmail is available for:
* Postbox (https://postbox-inc.com), a commercial product
* Interlink (https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/), a
community-driven product.

Both are currently based on TB 52. Postbox is actively maintained and
its UI differs quite a bit from Thunderbird (I think it's nicer, but
that's to some degree a matter of taste). Interlink is also maintained,
but I'm not sure how actively and things like security fixes.

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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

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Bradley D. Thornton wrote on 30.06.2020 16:09:
> Please see comments below...
> 
> On 6/29/2020 1:43 AM, Wayne Mery wrote:
>> On 5/20/20 10:49 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>> Andrew Gallagher wrote on 20.05.2020 16:46:
>>>> Thanks, Patrick!
>>>>
>>>> On 20/05/2020 15:23, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>>>> Details are available from the following post:
>>>>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>>>> ...
>>>>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>>>>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>>>>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>>>>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>>>> I notice from the tb-planning email that (for understandable reasons)
>>>> they intend to go ahead with releasing TB 78 regardless of the state of
>>>> its PGP support. If this is not sufficiently stable or featureful, will
>>>> we have to hold back on upgrading TB until some future release, or will
>>>> we still be able to install a fully-functional version of Enigmail?
>>> You'll have to hold back upgrading Thunderbird. There will be no
>>> fully-functional version of Enigmail for Thunderbird 78.
>>>
>>> -Patrick
> Okay thanks Patrick :)
> 
>>
>>
>> Starting with Enigmail 2.1.7 there is now a warning to not update to 78
>> until 78.2 when automatic updates kick in.
>>
>>
> 
> As per those instructions, as well as the graphic included in your mail
> which I also received via notification from Enigmail within Thunderbird,
> I need (it would be really nice), for peace of mind, if I have a bit
> more info regarding this...
> 
> 1.) I'm currently running TB v68.9.0 according to Help ==> About, with
> the added information relating that: "You are currently on the release
> update channel.
> 
> 2.) I'm using GNUPG, NOT OpenPGP, and considering everything else, would
> prefer to stay with that and Enigmail rather than migrate away from
> Enigmail and GNUPG, as I use other things that depend upon GNU Privacy
> Guard. I'm sure they'll coexist, but I've got no desire to add cruft to
> my systems.
> 
> Q: With consideration to the information about my setup, Am I currently
> configured to be able to just sit back and forget about it, allowing TB
> to upgrade 72.2 to automatically? Or do I need to disable something?

If you did not disable automatic upgrades, you will be upgraded to TB
78.2, which means that you will not have Enigmail anymore. GnuPG will
only be supported for handling secret keys (for example for smartcard
support), but not for anything else.

You can disable automatic updates in the Thunderbird settings under
Advanced > Update.

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Re: [Enigmail] Alert about Thunderbird 78

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Michael Gillan  wrote on 29.06.2020 23:33:
> Hi,
> 
> I have been getting a message popping up when I open thunderbird like
> the one below.  It refers to version 78 of Thunderbird.  However as far
> as i know Thunderbird is still only available up to version 68.*.*. 
> 
> Is the message genuine or a mistake?

That message is genuine. Thunderbird 78 will soon be released, that's
why we added this dialog in Enigmail.

-Patrick

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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.1.7 availalbe

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I'm happy to announce Enigmail version 2.1.7 for Thunderbird 68 and
Postbox 7.

Changes
---

This release informs the users about the upcoming release of Thunderbird
78. In addition, the following issues were addressed:

* Keyserver upload to Hockepuck servers (e.g. keyserver.ubuntu.com) is
  not possible
* Running "Encrypt to key" filter fails silently
* Rendering problem with Deep Dark theme

Obtaining Enigmail
--
Enigmail can be downloaded from
https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/download/

The changelog is available from
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Re: [Enigmail] key import failed

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 16/06/2020 18:21, fs...@comcast.net wrote:
> When I try to import a new key into enigmail I have started getting the 
> message "no vey imported." I also get the warning “verification failed”
> 
> I have tried importing keys from several different contacts with the same 
> result. The import still fails even if I try copying the key to my desktop 
> and then importing or
> 
> importing form clipboard. Any ideas?

It's hard to tell, the message is not very specific. There can be
multiple reasons for this:
- the "key" might is not a valid key
- the key is an ECC key, but your version of GnuPG doesn't support it

To start with, which version of GnuPG do you have?

-Patrick

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail 2.2 crashes on import using TB 77.0b3 (64-bit)

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Am 22. Mai 2020 22:22:38 MESZ schrieb David Flory :
>I am running (testing ) Enigmail 2.2 under TB 77.0b3.  The export of my
>keys goes smoothly.  I have 5 private keys.  I enter each passphrase in
>turn and the export runs.  Then the import begins. I enter the first
>secret key passphrase, it is accepted, and the system crashes.  I submit
>the crash report to TB.
>
>Any suggestions for debugging.  Or just patience until the next version
>or update.
>
>David
>
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That's probably a known bug in the OpenPGP library used by Thunderbird. It 
crashes when accessing certain keys.  If you tell me the crash ID, I can check 
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Re: [Enigmail] Cannot remove Enigmail from Thunderbird 77.0b3 (64 bit)

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Dmitry Alexandrov wrote on 20.05.2020 17:42:
> David Flory  wrote:
>> How can I force remove it? (I am getting ready to use the new
>> builtin OpenPGP option that should be fully available in TB 78)
> 
> Iʼm afraid, you are way too optimistic.  The timely release of
> Thunderbird 78 is _not_ going to mean, that itʼs fully ready; only
> that Mozilla is so successful in its crusade against modularity, that
> Thunderbird developers are no longer free to choose their own release
> cycle.

The way you put the facts is not quite correct.

It may be true that Thunderbird 78.0 might still lack some OpenPGP
functionality or contain bugs that will need fixing. But whether or not
Thunderbird 78.1 or 78.x will contain new features or bugfixes is up to
the decision of the Thunderbird developers, and has nothing to do with
modularity or decisions taken by Mozilla.

Furthermore, Thunderbird is free to choose its own release cycle. It's
entirely the decision of the Thunderbird developers to base their
releases on Firefox ESR releases. And it's exclusively the decision of
the Thunderbird developers when exactly TB 78 will be released, and
whether or not to wait for some parts of some module to be ready.
History has shown that some TB releases followed Firefox ESR releases
almost immediately, while other releases were delayed for up to 2 months.

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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

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Aisha Tammy via enigmail-users wrote on 20.05.2020 16:50:
> On 5/20/20 10:23 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
>> Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
>> development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
>> but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
>> verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
>> experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.
>>
> I am hoping you are one of the contributors to that. I would feel safer
> knowing something that has been working well is the precursor of a new 
> technology.

The implementation has started off from the existing Enigmail code, and
you can still see quite a bit of it. But certain things are obviously
new or different.

I did not contribute as a developer to what has been implemented/changed
in Thunderbird, but I was a reviewer for most of these changes.

>> Details are available from the following post:
>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>>
>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>>
>> If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
>> you can install it from here:
>> https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi
>>
> Also I hope this doesn't mean that Enigmail is going away anytime soon.
> I have quite a few things that I rely on enigmail for and really love it.

I will continue to support Enigmail for Thunderbird for at least 6
months after the release of TB 78. Depending on how many users will hold
back upgrading from TB 68, I might also extend that period. Furthermore,
I will continue to develop and maintain Enigmail for Postbox; likely for
several more years.

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Andrew Gallagher wrote on 20.05.2020 16:46:
> Thanks, Patrick!
> 
> On 20/05/2020 15:23, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>
>> Details are available from the following post:
>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
> ...
>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
> 
> I notice from the tb-planning email that (for understandable reasons)
> they intend to go ahead with releasing TB 78 regardless of the state of
> its PGP support. If this is not sufficiently stable or featureful, will
> we have to hold back on upgrading TB until some future release, or will
> we still be able to install a fully-functional version of Enigmail?

You'll have to hold back upgrading Thunderbird. There will be no
fully-functional version of Enigmail for Thunderbird 78.

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[Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

[Patrick Brunschwig]

The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.

Details are available from the following post:
https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html

Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
to Thunderbird -- nothing more.

If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
you can install it from here:
https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi

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Re: [Enigmail] Cannot remove Enigmail from Thunderbird 77.0b3 (64 bit)

[Patrick Brunschwig]

David Flory wrote on 20.05.2020 06:12:
> I am running Thunderbird 77.0b3 (64 bit) under Windows 10 with two
> profiles in different places.  For one of the profiles I cannot remove
> Enigmail.  The other is fine.  Enigmail is Version 2.1, July 20, 2019.
> 
> In the Extension Manager,  Enigmail shows up as Disabled and is
> correctly flagged as incompatible with Thunderbird 77.0.  When I click
> on the "..." link I get the small pop-up window with the options Remove
> and Manage.  I then click on Remove.  It flashes and the window closes. 
> I then restart Thunderbird.  The extension should be gone.  It is not.
> 
> How can I force remove it?

That's a question to ask to the Thunderbird developers. The
functionality is part of the Thunderbird Addon Manager -- an Addon
cannot control whether it's installed or uninstalled or not.

-Patrick






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Re: [Enigmail] Mail is wrap-munged for no reason

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Dmitry Alexandrov wrote on 14.05.2020 12:31:
> Dear listmaster,
> 
> Iʼve noticed that _some_ of my mail, that is passing through your list, is 
> got wrapped (in sense of ‘dmarc_moderation_action’).
> 
> To the best of my knowledge, thatʼs a measure, that is sometimes used to deal 
> with combinations of two conditions:
> 
> 1. The list owner wants to modify mail passing through the list (such as 
> prepend ‘subject’ with a tag or add a footer) so much, that heʼd better opt 
> for munging them more than stop doing that at all.  This seems to be the case.
> 
> 2. The sender, however, explicitly prohibit doing that, by specifying 
> ‘strict’ DMARC policy.  That is *not* the case.  Despite not being very happy 
> about, say, fake ‘reply-to’ in my letters, I do not enforce any DMARC policy 
> at all for this domain:
> 
>   $ dig +short _dmarc.gnui.org txt
>   $
> 
> Nevertheless, while my first message in this thread  
> had not been wrapped, the next two:  and 
>  had been, even though nothing had apparently changed 
> on my side.
> 
> Have I missed something or thatʼs some bug?


I'm sorry, but I can't tell. DMARC wrapping is not enabled for this
mailing list in Mailman. Also, I'm not operating the mailman server, I
only configure the list I use. I don't have access to any logs.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] test suite failures when network is flakey

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote on 13.04.2020 19:12:
> Hi Enigmail folks--
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/954268 indicates that when the Internet
> connection is flakey, enigmail's tests can sometimes fail or timeout in
> unreliable ways.
> 
> It would be great if we could update the tests so that they could cope
> with an unreliable network.
> 
> If anyone wants to suggest a simple way to do that, i could take a stab
> at writing a patch, but i'm not sure where to begin.

The test suite only needs a network to download Thunderbird and and the
required Debian packages. There is no network access required for
running any test; in particular, the test suite contains no request to
any keyserver or similar.

You mentioned the following line in the log:
> 2020-02-26 18:05:54.188 [DEBUG] keyRefreshService.jsm: Either no
keyservers exist or the protocols specified are invalid. Will recheck in
an hour.

This has nothing to do with network access from the test suite. The
correct interpretation of such Debug log entries is the following:

The test suite is running so long that the usual key refresh service is
becoming active. However, there is no valid configured keyserver, thus
the service  doesn't do anything. It will retry in an hour to see if
there is a configured keyserver.


I checked the log file, and I believe that the problem is in the
infrastructure. There are error messages from GnuPG that I would expect
under normal circumstances. The first suspicious log entry is this one:
2020-02-26 17:05:06.247

All of a sudden, GnuPG cannot access pubring.kbx anymore, and thus the
test fail. I assume that some test cases don't foresee such errors and
get stuck.

HTH
-Patrick



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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.1.6 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I'm happy to announce Enigmail version 2.1.6 for Thunderbird 68 and
Postbox 7.

This release addresses the following issues
---
* Preferences don't open in Postbox
* Original file names of attachments are not decrypted
* Per-recipients rule 'Set enigmail rules for' field unable to edit
* Automatic Key Refresh doesn't work with keys.openpgp.org
* Cannot confirm publishing of key on WKS server
* Setup Wizard gets stuck if keys in GnuPG available

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Re: [Enigmail] Cannot confirm publish GnuPG key on host server

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Andrew Gallagher wrote on 24.03.2020 16:56:
> On 24/03/2020 14:45, enigm...@aisha.cc wrote:
>> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Hi, Aisha. I'm not Patrick. :-)
> 
>> But I do have my default key set (!?)
> 
> I also have my default key set, and the same "default key" error appears
> in the logs constantly, not just when handling WKS. I have no other
> issues with my enigmail, so whatever this indicates appears to be
> orthogonal to the current problem.

The message does not relate to the GnuPG key. A library that I use
produces this log entry if a mail account in Thunderbird does not have a
default identity.

In any case, the reason is as Andrew already suspected - the message
"TypeError: XPCOMUtils.generateQI is not a function" is the cause for
the blocked sending. I'll fix it for the next release.

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Re: [Enigmail] Cannot confirm publish GnuPG key on host server

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Andrew Gallagher wrote on 24.03.2020 00:22:
> On 23/03/2020 19:59, Aisha Tammy via enigmail-users wrote:
>> I am using `enigmail-2.1.5` and `thunderbird-68.6.0` on Gentoo linux.
>> I have set up a WKS server for auto management of WKD GnuPG keys using
>> `gpg-2.2.12`.
>> But unfortunately, I am unable to get enigmail to publish my GPG key to
>> the host server.
> ...
>> which when I select I get a status bar telling me to `Confirm Request`, but 
>> when I click on
>> the button, nothing happens and there is no confirming email sent back to my 
>> host server. 
> 
> I noticed the same problem myself today, using the following on Debian
> buster (the client):
> 
> gnupg 2.2.12-1+deb10u1
> thunderbird 1:68.5.0-1~deb10u1
> enigmail 2:2.1.3+ds1-4~deb10u2
> 
> and the following on Ubuntu 18.04 (the WKS server):
> 
> gnupg 2.2.4-1ubuntu1.2

If you send me a debugging log file, I'll look into it.

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird 72

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Or ask the Thunderbird developers to backport the fix for whatever is
broken for you...

Seriously, I would _not_ recommend your client to use a beta version for
productive emails just because something is fixed there. Beta versions
are not tested -- they are the basis for performing tests -- and may
have all sorts of bugs and issues.

-Patrick

Charlie via enigmail-users wrote on 11.01.2020 16:53:
> Looking into an alternative solution for cross platform/client message
> encryption.
> 
> Thunderbird is the client's preferred email client, but there are some
> major issues with 68 that they want to avoid by early adoption of 72.
> Testing has proven positive except for one thing - no encryption.
> 
> So it is now either struggle on until the July release of 78, or look
> for another option as 68 is not usable in the interim.
> 
> Or go back pre-60, when everything was working just fine.
> 
> On 11/01/2020 17:30:34, "Wayne Mery"  wrote:
> 
>> Charlie, what is it that you are testing?
>>
>> On 1/10/20 12:44 PM, Charlie via enigmail-users wrote:
>>> Right, but you have no idea of who we are nor what our testing
>>> involves, so your comment comes across as rather condescending. I
>>> guess that means you won't answer the question either. 




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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird 72

[Patrick Brunschwig]

The reasons why Thunderbird 72 is not supported are the same as for Thunderbird 
78. The API that Enigmail uses is no longer available, and it would require an 
almost complete rewrite of Enigmail.

Patrick

- Originale Nachricht -
Von: Charlie 
Gesendet: 10.01.2020 - 18:44
An: Enigmail user discussion list 
Betreff: Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird 72

> Right, but you have no idea of who we are nor what our testing involves,
> so your comment comes across as rather condescending. I guess that means
> you won't answer the question either.
> 
> On 10/01/2020 19:14, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> Unless you have good reasons to use a beta version, you should
>> better stick with regular release versions, like Thunderbird 68



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Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird 72

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Charlie C via enigmail-users wrote on 10.01.2020 16:36:
> The announcement on the website says that Engimail will not be
> supported in Thunderbird 78 because of the upcoming built-in
> encryption features.
> 
> I just saw on the website where nightly builds will no longer work
> with Thunderbird 72 a newer.
> 
> So what to do from 72 until 78? No encryption?
Thunderbird 72 is a beta version that is not intended for a large
audience. Unless you have good reasons to use a beta version, you should
better stick with regular release versions, like Thunderbird 68.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Using a specific subkey in Enigmail

[Patrick Brunschwig]

john doe wrote on 03.01.2020 19:18:
> On 1/3/2020 7:05 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> john doe wrote on 03.01.2020 18:43:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have multiple subkeys on my GPG key and I'm not finding a way to let
>>> enigmail  use a specific subkey.
>>>
>>>
>>> What's the best way to use enigmail with subkey?
>>
>> Enigmail does not support that.
>>
> 
> Okay, so to use enigmail, only one subkey for the sign capability and
> one subkey for the encrypt capability is allowed.

No, that's not what I said. You can't /select/ a /specific/ subkey with
Enigmail. Everything else is fully supported. I.e. gpg chooses an
appropriate subkey for whatever operation is performed.

> Is there any plan to add this functionality to enigmail?

No.

> What is the state of subkey with regard to Thunderbird when support for
> GPG will be built-in?

Same.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Using a specific subkey in Enigmail

[Patrick Brunschwig]

john doe wrote on 03.01.2020 18:43:
> Hi,
> 
> I have multiple subkeys on my GPG key and I'm not finding a way to let
> enigmail  use a specific subkey.
> 
> 
> What's the best way to use enigmail with subkey?

Enigmail does not support that.

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail GNOME keyring handling

[Patrick Brunschwig]

enig_2020_...@posteo.de wrote on 02.01.2020 19:52:
> Am 02.01.20 um 17:36 schrieb Patrick Brunschwig:
>> Robert J. Hansen wrote on 02.01.2020 16:26:
>>>> Using Enigmail for some time now - thanks for your work!
>>> Patrick deserves all the credit; the rest of us just try to help him
>>> with the load of questions.  :)  Which is hard, given that he usually
>>> beats us to answering them!
>>>
>>>> As I understand, the GPG key for a specific email address is saved
>>>> inside the keyring, in my case the GNOME keyring. To decrypt an
>>>> encrypted email Enigmail needs to have access to that keyring. Which
>>>> means, the GNOME keyring needs to be unlocked so that Enigmail can
>>>> access it and read the according GPG key.
>>> Nope.  :)
>>>
>>> GnuPG is the one popping up those passphrase dialogs, not Enigmail. 
>>> We've got nothing to do with it.  We never touch your keyring.  Although
>>> I think your feature request is pretty reasonable, it's also beyond
>>> Enigmail's scope.  Perhaps ask on GnuPG-Users, or on a GNOME mailing list?
> Thanks for the clarification.
>> The above said, I assume that what happens is this: if GNOME keyring is
>> already running when gpg requires a password, it will connect to the
>> running instance of GNOME keyring and get the password from there. If
>> GNOME keyring is not already running, then gpg will need to start a
>> "keyring" tool on its own. And the only tool known to gpg is gpg-agent.
>>
>> -Patrick
>
> Thanks for pointing that out. So, just for my understanding: Are you
> happy - design-wise - with the fact that if the keyring is not unlocked
> a user is asked for the GPG key even it is already available in the
> keyring? What do you think would need to change on the GPG side if a
> user would like to have the keyring unlocked by Enigmail instead of
> requesting the GPG key?
This is clearly the fault of GNOME, or the way your distribution is
configured. GPG contains a component called gpg-agent that is designed
to deal with handling keys and passphrases. If GNOME decides to hijack
gpg-agent then that's entirely their decision, and you can't blame GPG
for working that.

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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail GNOME keyring handling

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Robert J. Hansen wrote on 02.01.2020 16:26:
>> Using Enigmail for some time now - thanks for your work!
> 
> Patrick deserves all the credit; the rest of us just try to help him
> with the load of questions.  :)  Which is hard, given that he usually
> beats us to answering them!
> 
>> As I understand, the GPG key for a specific email address is saved
>> inside the keyring, in my case the GNOME keyring. To decrypt an
>> encrypted email Enigmail needs to have access to that keyring. Which
>> means, the GNOME keyring needs to be unlocked so that Enigmail can
>> access it and read the according GPG key.
> 
> Nope.  :)
> 
> GnuPG is the one popping up those passphrase dialogs, not Enigmail. 
> We've got nothing to do with it.  We never touch your keyring.  Although
> I think your feature request is pretty reasonable, it's also beyond
> Enigmail's scope.  Perhaps ask on GnuPG-Users, or on a GNOME mailing list?

The above said, I assume that what happens is this: if GNOME keyring is
already running when gpg requires a password, it will connect to the
running instance of GNOME keyring and get the password from there. If
GNOME keyring is not already running, then gpg will need to start a
"keyring" tool on its own. And the only tool known to gpg is gpg-agent.

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Re: [Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.1.5 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Andreas Hirsch wrote on 01.01.2020 15:29:
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> Patrick Brunschwig schrieb am 31.12.2019 um 16:53:
>> I'm happy to announce Enigmail version 2.1.5 for Thunderbird 68 and
>> Postbox 7.
>>
>> This release addresses the following issues
>> ---
>> * Security Issue: unsigned MIME parts displayed as signed
>> * Ensure that keyring is migrated when upgrading GnuPG 2.0.x to 2.2.x
> 
> I'm using the same keyring from my Windows-PC as of my Linux-PC. My
> Linux ist Ubuntu-LTS 18.04 and so I'm not the manager of the gpg-Version
> presented there.
> 
> Will where arise problems after the keyring is migrated?

GnuPG 2.2 was released in 2017. I'm therefore almost certain that Ubuntu
18.04 already uses GnuPG 2.2.x. Therefore, no, it will only make your
life easier because you don't need to synchronize your secret keys anymore.

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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.1.5 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I'm happy to announce Enigmail version 2.1.5 for Thunderbird 68 and
Postbox 7.

This release addresses the following issues
---
* Security Issue: unsigned MIME parts displayed as signed
* Ensure that keyring is migrated when upgrading GnuPG 2.0.x to 2.2.x
* Make Enigmail Compatible with Protected-Headers spec, draft 2
* Force pEp-Mode not possible
* Make Enigmail Compatible with Protected-Headers spec, draft 2
* UBlock can't display settings with Enigmail 2.1.4 installed
* Attachment encryption prompt fails to use PGP/MIME, falls back to
  inline PGP with unencrypted attachments


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Re: [Enigmail] Unable to export .asc file with keys + Unable to create a new Keypair

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Enrico XVX wrote on 26.12.2019 15:11:
> Hello Patrick and thanks for your quick reply.
> 
> I tried again to generate a key pair, i did so right after opening Enigmail 
> so everything that's written in the log should be referring to that process. 
> Again the attempt was unsuccessful, here i copy/paste what i got from the 
> Debugging Log
[...]

GnuPG reports the following:

> gpg: no writable public keyring found: Not found

You should make sure that ~/.gnupg/pubring.gpg is owned by you and that
it's writable. I'd recommend you check all files.

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] Subject encryption

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Subject encryption only works for PGP/MIME encrypted messages. Not for inline 
PGP.

HTH
Patrick

- Originale Nachricht -
Von: Steve Gregg 
Gesendet: 15.12.2019 - 20:20
An: enigmail-users@enigmail.net
Betreff: [Enigmail] Subject encryption

> Just upgraded to Thunderbird 68.3 and Enigmail 2.14. I can't get it to
> encrypt the message SUBJECT... What am I doing wrong? I check-marked
> "Encrypt subject by default" in the advanced send options, but still not
> working.
> 
> --
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> 
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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.1.4 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I'm happy to announce Enigmail version 2.1.4 for Thunderbird 68 and
Postbox 7.

This release addresses the following issues
---
* Mixed classic/pEp mode on startup if the pEp Engine is not fully
  operational
* Key Management menu bar unreadable on dark themes
* Enigmail column re-appears after every startup
* "Attach my public key to message" option is not restored properly
* Better activity feedback in the "Create OpenPGP Key" window
* Automatic updating GnuPG does not work


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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail weirdness in PostBox

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Roy Smith wrote on 09.12.2019 13:44:
> Does anyone else on this mailing list use PostBox along with Enigmail? I
> need to confirm whether this is normal or if my PostBox config is borked
> or not. After figuring out how to get Enigmail installed in PostBox,
> I've noticed that the Enigmail menu only shows up in the compose window
> and not the main window of PostBox. So is this normal?

Yes, this is normal. The Postbox people asked specifically that there be
no Enigmail menu on the main window. If you come across a signed or
encrypted message, then the Enigmail controls are available from the
"sign"/"encrypt" icons. Any other functions in Enigmail are available
from the message composition window (e.g. Key Management).

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Re: [Enigmail] Bug report: Cant edit the Signing/Encryption Options, UI Bug?

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Rosa wrote on 07.12.2019 13:24:
> (Sourceforge blocks my IP. Sorry for posting here, maybe someone can
> create a bug?)
> 
> 
> Enigmaill 2.1.3
> Thunderbird 68.2.2
> 
> on Debian Bullseye
> 
> 
> When trying to edit the Enigmail settings of a mailaccount, while
> composing a new mail, the UI fails to load the settings and displays an
> empty window.
> 
> There is an error in the Error console:
> ReferenceError: Enigmail is not defined
> 
> editSingleAccount.xul:1:1
> onload chrome://enigmail/content/ui/editSingleAccount.xul:1
> goAccountManager
> chrome://enigmail/content/ui/enigmailMsgComposeOverlay.js:1340
> oncommand
> chrome://messenger/content/messengercompose/messengercompose.xul:1
> goAccountManager
> chrome://enigmail/content/ui/enigmailMsgComposeOverlay.js:1340

I have the impression that you have installed two versions of Enigmail:
one that comes with Debian, and one that you installed manually. Due to
how Thunderbird works, this is bound to fail. I'd recommend that you
uninstall the Enigmail package from debian (via apt or similar), restart
Thunderbird and retry.

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Re: [Enigmail] Unable to export .asc file with keys + Unable to create a new Keypair

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Actually no. The entry says that none of the configured keys have expired/are 
about to expire, plus a timestamp when this was last checked.

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Re: [Enigmail] Verbindung zum Schlüsselserver

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Wolfgang Trube wrote on 11.11.2019 19:54:
> 
> 
> Am 11.11.2019 um 17:38 schrieb Patrick Brunschwig:
>> Wolfgang Trube wrote on 11.11.2019 12:17:
>>> Hallo,
>>>
>>> nach einer Neuinstallation ist es nicht möglich Schlüssel aller Kontakte
>>> vom Schlüsselserver zu suchen. Auch das Herunterladen von Schlüsseln
>>> endet mit einer Fehlermeldung "Verbindung zum Schlüssel-Server konnte
>>> nicht hergestellt werden. Der Schlüssel-Server hat einen Fehler
>>> gemeldet". Mit Kleopatra bzw. GPA funktioniert es problemlos. Gibt es
>>> dafür eine Lösung?
>>> Installiert ist:
>>> Windows 10 Pro
>>> Enigmail2.1.3
>>> Lightning68.2.2
>>> Gpg4win3.1.10
>>> Thunderbird68.2.2 (64-Bit)
> 
>> Welchen Schlüsselserver verwendest Du in Enigmail?
> 
>> Gruss,
>> Patrick
> 
> 
> Bei mir sind nachfolgende Server eingetragen.
> 
> hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net
> vks://keys.openpgp.org
> hkps://pgp.mit.edu

Das heisst, dass aktuell hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net verwendet
wird (also ein Pool von Servern). Es kann durchaus vorkommen, dass ein
Server aus dem Pool aktuell nicht funktioniert. Verwende doch mal
vks://keys.openpgp.org

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Re: [Enigmail] Verbindung zum Schlüsselserver

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Wolfgang Trube wrote on 11.11.2019 12:17:
> Hallo,
> 
> nach einer Neuinstallation ist es nicht möglich Schlüssel aller Kontakte
> vom Schlüsselserver zu suchen. Auch das Herunterladen von Schlüsseln
> endet mit einer Fehlermeldung "Verbindung zum Schlüssel-Server konnte
> nicht hergestellt werden. Der Schlüssel-Server hat einen Fehler
> gemeldet". Mit Kleopatra bzw. GPA funktioniert es problemlos. Gibt es
> dafür eine Lösung?
> Installiert ist:
> Windows 10 Pro
> Enigmail    2.1.3
> Lightning    68.2.2
> Gpg4win        3.1.10
> Thunderbird    68.2.2 (64-Bit)

Welchen Schlüsselserver verwendest Du in Enigmail?

Gruss,
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Re: [Enigmail] moving buildscripts to python3

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote on 09.11.2019 05:54:
> On Fri 2019-11-08 14:04:25 +0100, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> My aim is to require a subset of the tools required by Mozilla to build
>> Thunderbird - the python scripts in Enigmail were all copied from the
>> Mozilla build toolchain, and I never modified any of them. If the
>> Mozilla build tools are migrated to python3, then I'll be happy to copy
>> them over to Enigmail.
> 
> The Mozilla build tools are migrated to python3:
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1388447
> 
> But they have grown and changed quite a bit since you copied them into
> enigmail, it looks like.
> 
> 
> https://sources.debian.org/src/thunderbird/1:68.2.1-1/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/
> 
> JarMaker.py is now jar.py, etc.
> 
> copying all of that over to enigmail's source tree seems problematic at
> best -- there's no clear maintenance plan, and it's a ton of code.
> 
> It looks like there are three specific commands during the build that
> invoke any of the python code:
> 
>Makefile:  util/checkFiles.py
>   lang/Makefile:  $(PYTHON) ../util/JarMaker.py -j $(DIST) -t . -f flat 
> $(BUILD)/lang/jar.mn
> ui/content/Makefile:  $(PYTHON) $(DEPTH)/util/Preprocessor.py -I $(INCLUDE) 
> -o $@ $<
> 
> checkFiles.py and Preprocessor.py appear to be relatively
> straightforward to port, just using /usr/bin/2to3-2.7 and doing
> straightforward manual cleanup.
> 
> But JarMaker.py has a handful of weird things that weren't very
> py3-friendly:
> 
>  - use of cmp() (see 
> https://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html#ordering-comparisons)
>  
>  - TypeError: '>' not supported between instances of 'time.struct_time'
>   and 'int'  when doing:
> 
>if (m.group('optOverwrite')
>   or (getModTime(realsrc) >
>   outHelper.getDestModTime(m.group('output':
> 
> anyway, i think i've fixed them on my py3 branch on gitlab:
> 
> https://gitlab.com/dkg/enigmail/commits/py3
> 
> enigmail now builds ok for me on a dedicated machine, but it is a little
> bit strange -- the updated util/Preprocessor.py sometimes leaves a
> zero-byte file, rather than a preprocessed file.  I can't figure out
> what's causing that, though i note that it is more likely if no
> __pycache__ directory is present.
> 
> If i work around that by rebuilding when i observe that the output is
> the empty file, then the built package ends up looking identical to the
> package i built with python2.
> 
> I am afraid i don't understand util/Preprocessor.py well, and it appears
> to only be used directly to strip out some UI for postbox in a single
> file (ui/content/enigmailMessengerOverlay.xul), which doesn't seem like
> a great tradeoff to me -- i'd rather have a sleeker and more robust
> build system if possible.

I agree. I wrote a new plpp.pl file, which just does a simplified
version of C-style CPP, that suits the needs of Enigmail. I'll use that
instead of Preprocessor.py, which does a lot more.

I'm currently merging your changes into the main tree.

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Re: [Enigmail] moving buildscripts to python3

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote on 09.11.2019 05:54:
> On Fri 2019-11-08 14:04:25 +0100, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> My aim is to require a subset of the tools required by Mozilla to build
>> Thunderbird - the python scripts in Enigmail were all copied from the
>> Mozilla build toolchain, and I never modified any of them. If the
>> Mozilla build tools are migrated to python3, then I'll be happy to copy
>> them over to Enigmail.
> 
> The Mozilla build tools are migrated to python3:
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1388447
> 
> But they have grown and changed quite a bit since you copied them into
> enigmail, it looks like.
> 
> 
> https://sources.debian.org/src/thunderbird/1:68.2.1-1/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/
> 
> JarMaker.py is now jar.py, etc.
> 
> copying all of that over to enigmail's source tree seems problematic at
> best -- there's no clear maintenance plan, and it's a ton of code.
> 
> It looks like there are three specific commands during the build that
> invoke any of the python code:
> 
>Makefile:  util/checkFiles.py
>   lang/Makefile:  $(PYTHON) ../util/JarMaker.py -j $(DIST) -t . -f flat 
> $(BUILD)/lang/jar.mn
> ui/content/Makefile:  $(PYTHON) $(DEPTH)/util/Preprocessor.py -I $(INCLUDE) 
> -o $@ $<
> 
> checkFiles.py and Preprocessor.py appear to be relatively
> straightforward to port, just using /usr/bin/2to3-2.7 and doing
> straightforward manual cleanup.
> 
> But JarMaker.py has a handful of weird things that weren't very
> py3-friendly:
> 
>  - use of cmp() (see 
> https://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html#ordering-comparisons)
>  
>  - TypeError: '>' not supported between instances of 'time.struct_time'
>   and 'int'  when doing:
> 
>if (m.group('optOverwrite')
>   or (getModTime(realsrc) >
>   outHelper.getDestModTime(m.group('output':
> 
> anyway, i think i've fixed them on my py3 branch on gitlab:
> 
> https://gitlab.com/dkg/enigmail/commits/py3
> 
> enigmail now builds ok for me on a dedicated machine, but it is a little
> bit strange -- the updated util/Preprocessor.py sometimes leaves a
> zero-byte file, rather than a preprocessed file.  I can't figure out
> what's causing that, though i note that it is more likely if no
> __pycache__ directory is present.
> 
> If i work around that by rebuilding when i observe that the output is
> the empty file, then the built package ends up looking identical to the
> package i built with python2.
> 
> I am afraid i don't understand util/Preprocessor.py well, and it appears
> to only be used directly to strip out some UI for postbox in a single
> file (ui/content/enigmailMessengerOverlay.xul), which doesn't seem like
> a great tradeoff to me -- i'd rather have a sleeker and more robust
> build system if possible.
> 
> Anyway, feel free to take a look at my py3 branch, and adopt/merge what
> you like.
> 
> I've uploaded something close to it to debian/experimental, so we can
> see how that turns out.

Thanks Daniel, I'll look into it :-)

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Re: [Enigmail] moving buildscripts to python3

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote on 05.11.2019 00:36:
> Hi Patrick, all--
> 
> We're in the process of getting rid of python2 in debian.  Python2 will
> lose upstream support in a couple months.
> 
> The enigmail 2.1.3 build tooling still appears to depend on python2.
> Have you given any thought to porting it to python3?
> 
> Is that something you have any specific opinions about?

My aim is to require a subset of the tools required by Mozilla to build
Thunderbird - the python scripts in Enigmail were all copied from the
Mozilla build toolchain, and I never modified any of them. If the
Mozilla build tools are migrated to python3, then I'll be happy to copy
them over to Enigmail.

But my knowledge of python is close to zero - I certainly would not be
able to work on moving to python3 in reasonable time.

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Re: [Enigmail] package/tests/keyObj-test.js -- why claim gpg is older than it is?

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Hi Daniel

this test is to ensure that the openpgp.js variant of the source code is used, 
i.e to test the openpgp.js code. I think you should remove the complete set of 
test cases as you don't ship openpgp.js.



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- Originale Nachricht -
Von: Daniel Kahn Gillmor 
Gesendet: 06.11.2019 - 17:14
An: Enigmail user discussion list 
Betreff: [Enigmail] package/tests/keyObj-test.js -- why claim gpg is older than 
it is?

> Hi Patrick--
> 
> package/tests/keyObj-test.js is failing on debian CI infrastructure
> (htttps://bugs.debian.org/944216) on the last two assertions (lines 53
> and 54):
> 
> 41  EnigmailGpg.agentVersion = "2.2.1";
> 42  Assert.ok(!EnigmailGpg.getGpgFeature("export-specific-uid"));
> 43
> 44  let minKey = keyObj.getMinimalPubKey("bob@somewhere.invalid");
> 45  Assert.equal(minKey.exitCode, 0);
> 46  Assert.equal(minKey.keyData.substr(3, 50), 
> "NBFub08oBDACmb04i4u8xUV1ADbnbN5l83mpr70OyWVJb5ElIc");
> 47  Assert.ok(minKey.keyData.substr(-50, 50) == 
> "1MU0qOC5SusatWeaebL9igZMla4aqtnLyRwLcsKODSTaZXQw==" ||
> 48minKey.keyData.substr(-50, 50) == 
> "p9TFNKjguUrrGrVnmnmy/YoGTJWuGqrZy8kcC3LCjg0k2mV0M=", "min key matches");
> 49
> 50  minKey = keyObj.getMinimalPubKey("does@not.exist");
> 51  Assert.equal(minKey.exitCode, 0);
> 52
> 53  Assert.equal(minKey.keyData.substr(0, 50), 
> "xsDNBFub08oBDACmb04i4u8xUV1ADbnbN5l83mpr70OyWVJb5E");
> 54  Assert.equal(minKey.keyData.substr(-50, 50), 
> "1MU0qOC5SusatWeaebL9igZMla4aqtnLyRwLcsKODSTaZXQw==");
> 55})));
> 
> Looking into the failure, i see that minKey is indeed a huge blob (see
> attachment below for a line-wrapped version of what is emitted).  It
> doesn't have the minimization i'd expect to be applied.
> 
> But I think this is happening because line 41 appears to deliberately
> cripple enigmail's GnuPG interface by making it think it is version
> 2.2.1.
> 
> What is the point of doing this test in this way?  Debian's package
> management is explicitly requring gnupg 2.2.8-2 and higher (basically
> 2.2.9, because of upstream fixes merged into 2.2.28).  So as far as i
> can tell this looks like gratuitous breakage.
> 
> But if it's testing something important, i'm reluctant to just strip it
> in debian.
> 
> Can you help me understand what it's for?
> 
> What do you think i should do about it?  Would you object to my removing
> these two final tests?  or maybe i should remove all the tests starting
> at line 41, since this is irrelevant for debian?  I just don't want to
> remove a safety check that i don't understand.  and i don't understand
> the purpose of these tests.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --dkg
> 
> PS I've read the git history of package/tests/keyObj-test.js and the
>comments in there don't give me any additional illumination.
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Re: [Enigmail] Future OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Mark Rousell wrote on 08.10.2019 16:57:
[...]
> Whilst OpenPGP support should ideally of course have been built into
> Thunderbird from the beginning (alongside S/MIME support) I have to say
> that, as things now stand, I have more confidence in the development and
> project management of Enigmail than of Thunderbird itself.

I see it a little different. Enigmail is mostly ... well: me, myself and
I. Everything depends on me - I'm the single point of failure in
Enigmail. That's not sustainable and not reliable. Thunderbird OTOH has
stabilized their financial and technical situation, and became a team of
about 10 paid developers (not all full-time though). That's something
substantially different.

[...]
> Thank you once again for all the effort you've put in. You've made a
> massive contribution to every user of Enigmail and the past success of
> Thunderbird.

Thanks for the flowers :-)

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[Enigmail] Future OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird

[Patrick Brunschwig]

The Thunderbird developers have announced that they will implement
OpenPGP support in Thunderbird 78 [1]. Support for Thunderbird in
Enigmail will therefore be discontinued.

I'd like to explain in the following paragraphs what this will mean for
Enigmail, and why this is an inevitable step.

The Future of Enigmail
--
I will continue to support and maintain Enigmail for Thunderbird 68
until 6 months after Thunderbird 78 will have been released (i.e. a few
months beyond Thunderbird 68 EOL). Enigmail will not run anymore on
Thunderbird 72 beta and newer.

Will this be the end of Enigmail?

No! I will continue to maintain and support Enigmail for Postbox, which
is running on a different release schedule than Thunderbird for the
foreseeable future.

Why Is This Happening?
--
The Mozilla developers have been and still are actively working on
removing old code from their code base. This affects not only
Thunderbird itself, but also add-ons. While it was possible for
Thunderbird to keep old "legacy" add-ons alive for a certain time, the
time has come for Thunderbird to stop supporting them [2]. Thunderbird
78 will no longer to support the APIs that Enigmail requires and only
allow new "WebExtensions".

WebExtensions have a completely different API than classical add-ons,
and a much reduced set of capabilities to hook into the user interface.
For Enigmail to continue to work, it would therefore be required to
rewrite it from scratch. However, that's beyond my available time
limitations.

The Thunderbird developers and I have therefore agreed that it's much
better to implement OpenPGP support directly in Thunderbird. The set of
functionalities will be different than what Enigmail offers, and at
least initially likely be less feature-rich. But in my eyes, this is by
far outweighed by the fact that OpenPGP will be part of Thunderbird and
no add-on and no third-party tool will be required.

-Patrick


[1]
https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2019/10/thunderbird-enigmail-and-openpgp/
[2] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tb-planning/-E8Yw6POxEE





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Re: [Enigmail] jsunit updates and distribution

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Am 17. September 2019 18:55:53 MESZ schrieb john doe :
>On 9/17/2019 5:22 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> john doe wrote on 17.09.2019 16:37:
>>> On 9/17/2019 3:58 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
>>>> Hi Patrick, and other enigmail folks--
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to sort out enigmail 2.1 for debian with tbird 68.
>>>>
>>>> i note that to properly test the new enigmail, i need a newer
>version of
>>>> jsunit for the testing, so i'd like to ship that in debian too.  at
>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/jsunit/ i see that jsunit 0.2.2 is
>available.
>>>>
>>>> i notice a few things that seem amiss with jsunit distribution. 
>I've
>>>> ordered them from highest priority to lowest priority as i see it
>-- but
>>>> if you can fix any of them, that would be great:
>>>>
>>>>  * The git repo at
>https://git.code.sf.net/u/pbrunschwig/jsunit/source
>>>>has no tags for anything after jsunit-0.2.0, even though
>>>>https://www.enigmail.net/jsunit/ lists 0.2.1 and 0.2.2.
>>>>
>>>>  * The git tags that i do see don't appear to be signed.  Please
>sign
>>>>any new tags you create!
>>>>
>>>
>>> And also, signing of commit.
>>
>> No, I won't sign commits. I'm fine signing tags (like I did for years
>on
>> Enigmail), but I will not sign commits.
>>
>
>Do you mind explaining why you are against signing commits?
>
>--
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In my eyes, a signature carries a certain value. By signing, I warrant a 
certain quality about the signed content. That's why I sign release tags, and 
some of my emails.

But when it comes to commits, I don't warrant for anything. Some commits are 
good, some break things, some are bad attempts to fix something, etc. Also, 
since I'm mostly the only developer, there's no review on commits. In other 
words, unlike releases, there is no quality assurance on commits.

Therefore, you'll never be able to convince me to sign commits.

Patrick

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Re: [Enigmail] jsunit updates and distribution

[Patrick Brunschwig]

john doe wrote on 17.09.2019 16:37:
> On 9/17/2019 3:58 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
>> Hi Patrick, and other enigmail folks--
>>
>> I'm trying to sort out enigmail 2.1 for debian with tbird 68.
>>
>> i note that to properly test the new enigmail, i need a newer version of
>> jsunit for the testing, so i'd like to ship that in debian too.  at
>> https://www.enigmail.net/jsunit/ i see that jsunit 0.2.2 is available.
>>
>> i notice a few things that seem amiss with jsunit distribution.  I've
>> ordered them from highest priority to lowest priority as i see it -- but
>> if you can fix any of them, that would be great:
>>
>>  * The git repo at https://git.code.sf.net/u/pbrunschwig/jsunit/source
>>has no tags for anything after jsunit-0.2.0, even though
>>https://www.enigmail.net/jsunit/ lists 0.2.1 and 0.2.2.
>>
>>  * The git tags that i do see don't appear to be signed.  Please sign
>>any new tags you create!
>>
> 
> And also, signing of commit.

No, I won't sign commits. I'm fine signing tags (like I did for years on
Enigmail), but I will not sign commits.

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Re: [Enigmail] jsunit updates and distribution

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote on 17.09.2019 15:58:
> Hi Patrick, and other enigmail folks--
> 
> I'm trying to sort out enigmail 2.1 for debian with tbird 68.
> 
> i note that to properly test the new enigmail, i need a newer version of
> jsunit for the testing, so i'd like to ship that in debian too.  at
> https://www.enigmail.net/jsunit/ i see that jsunit 0.2.2 is available.
> 
> i notice a few things that seem amiss with jsunit distribution.  I've
> ordered them from highest priority to lowest priority as i see it -- but
> if you can fix any of them, that would be great:
> 
>  * The git repo at https://git.code.sf.net/u/pbrunschwig/jsunit/source
>has no tags for anything after jsunit-0.2.0, even though
>https://www.enigmail.net/jsunit/ lists 0.2.1 and 0.2.2.

0.2.1 can safely be ignored. It was required for some beta version of
TB, but changes in TB 68 forced me to create 0.2.2. I deleted 0.2.1 from
the downloads as it's plain useless.

>  * The git tags that i do see don't appear to be signed.  Please sign
>any new tags you create!

I created (and pushed) a signed 0.2.2 tag :-)

>  * The git repo at https://git.code.sf.net/u/pbrunschwig/jsunit/source
>has an erroneous tag jsunit-1.1.2 -- maybe you want to clean that up
>with something like (untested, i know this syntax works with
>branches, but i don't know about tags):
> 
>git push origin :jsunit-1.1.2

That's a wrong tag indeed - I deleted it

>  * The "file not found" situation below https://www.enigmail.net/jsunit/
>is weird.  Rather than giving a 404 return code, a request for a
>missing URL gives a series of HTTP redirections which culminate in an
>HTTP 200 at https://www.enigmail.net/index.php/en/error-404 (that
>page *says* "Error 404 - Page not Found" in the text, but it's
>actually an HTTP 200 OK response!).
> 
>This confuses debian's automatic upstream retrieval scripts ("uscan")
>when they hunt around for trial signatures.  In particular, uscan
>tests the URL at https://www.enigmail.net/jsunit/jsunit-0.2.2.xpi.asc
>and then thinks that maybe a signature is available, because it
>follows the chain of redirects.

Yes, I created a jsunit-0.2.2.xpi.asc file

>The easiest way to avoid confusing uscan in the short term is just to
>ship .asc OpenPGP signatures alongside the .xpi bundles.  but fixing
>the overall 404 handler would probably be a good thing at some point
>too.

Yes, I'll have to convince Joomla to do the correct thing...

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Re: [Enigmail] unverified signatures

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Gary Curtin wrote on 17.09.2019 16:19:
> When there is an unverified signature, the message takes ages to open in
> Thunderbird. The same message opens almost immediately in Evolution.
> 
> An example is the latest message just posted to the list from Daniel
> Kahn Gillmor re: jsunit updates and distribution.
> 
> It only happens on this list so I am assuming it is related to
> signatures added by enigmail, as that is what the members are probably
> using. I don't notice the same issue with other signed messages where I
> know the signatures are not added by enigmail.
> 
> Any suggestions on how to overcome this delay?

I suspect that you configured Enigmail or gpg to try to automatically
download missing keys, which may take quite a while.

-Patrick

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Re: [Enigmail] Stronger yellow bar

[Patrick Brunschwig]

Marco A.G. Pinto wrote on 12.09.2019 10:06:
> Hello!
> 
> I was wondering if you could change the light yellow bar in the received
> e-mails ("import signature") to the strong yellow that Thunderbird 68
> now uses (when there is remote content in a message).

You can possibly do that by adding a custom CSS in userChrome.css in
your profile directory.

you'd need to put a customized version of the following CSS into that file:

.enigmailHeaderBoxLabelSignatureUnknown {
  background-color:#C9;
  color: black;
}

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Re: [Enigmail] white message body randomly in enigmail 2.0.12 TB 60.8

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 07.09.2019 12:19, Bitcoin Admin wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> since a few days i have white message body randomly in enigmail 2.0.12
> TB 60.8 when it actually has an encrypted body (if i look into source
> file i find the encrypted part and can decrypt it separately. I am
> running Ubuntu 19.04 . attached are the console and logfile for debugging.
> 
> I have already tried all addons disbeld in TB, only enigmail, but that
> also did not produce any good result.

The log contains the following bits:

---
> /usr/bin/gpg --charset utf-8 --display-charset utf-8
--no-auto-check-trustdb --comment "Etiam si omnes, ego non"
--ignore-mdc-error --batch --no-tty --no-verbose --status-fd 2
--log-file /tmp/gpgOutput.yXNZKQ --sender mich...@nuts.one-admin.com
--max-output 209800 --decrypt

Human-readable output from gpg:

Sorry, we are in batchmode - can't get input
---

From what it looks, I have the impression that you changed the
gpg/gpg-agent configuration to force using loopback-pinentry. I expect
the following line in your gpg.conf file:

pinentry-mode loopback

This won't work with Enigmail - Enigmail requires the use of gpg-agent
for pinentry.

HTH
-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Where to download the Key for Enigmail versions 1.8 and newer

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 26.08.2019 04:31, nohktwo Big wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On the enigmail.net, I don't know where to download the Key for
> Enigmail versions 1.8 and newer.
> 
> I can download the key from public pgp key sites like
> http://keys.gnupg.net/. You know, however, the key from such sites is
> about 20.5MB. Is that correct ?

Unfortunately, yes. You better get it from keys.openpgp.org.
> 
> Can I suggest having an official pgp key download link on the web (eg.
> https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/verify-signature) ?

See first paragraph "(alternatively, the key is also available from
_here_)" where _here_ is a link.

-Patrick



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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.1.2 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I have released Enigmail version 2.1.2 for Thunderbird 68.

/Please note that Enigmail 2.1.x only works with Thunderbird 68, and
Enigmail 2.0.x only with Thunderbird 60.x./

This is a bugfix release. In addition, the translations for several
languages were updated.

Fixed defects
-
* A regression bug was fixed that duplicated the subject of
  encrypted emails


Obtaining Enigmail
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https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/download-old-versions
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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail 2.0.12 for Postbox 7 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I am happy to announce Enigmail v2.0.12 for Postbox 7.

Postbox [1] is a commercial email client based on Thunderbird. I have
cooperated with the Postbox developers to make Enigmail ready for their
newest version, Postbox 7 (currently available as beta version [2]; to
be released soon).

With version 7, Postbox introduces a new feature called "Lab
Experiments", and I am proud to announce that Enigmail is the first
"experiment" available.

Compared to Enigmail for Thunderbird, there are a few notable
differences in functionality:

* No support for the pEp Junior mode on Postbox
* Composing messages is restricted to PGP/MIME (no support for composing
  Inline-PGP messages)
* No Enigmail Header Bar when reading messages - click on the pen/lock
  icon to get details about the decryption/verification status
* The Enigmail menu is only available when composing messages


Obtaining Enigmail
--
Enigmail for Postbox can be downloaded from
https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/download#postbox


-Patrick



[1] https://postbox-inc.com
[2] https://support.postbox-inc.com/hc/en-us/articles/11536373



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Re: [Enigmail] pep-json-server

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 14.08.2019 08:11, alpha beta wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I just noticed that whenever I open Thunderbird (60.7.0) having
> Enigmail enabled (2.0.12) a new process is spawned by a binary from
> inside the profile directory (pep-json-server).
> 
> It seems to be some kind of HTTP API server, but I wasn't able to find out 
> more.
> 
> Do you also have the same process listening?
> 
> What is it, and why do Enigmail need it
> 
> I don't mind if Enigmail needs a server listening on localhost, but it
> seems that exiting Thunderbird does not kill the pep-json-server
> process, which is tedious.
> 
> Is this desired behaviour?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Cheers

If you use Enigmail in the "pEp Junior Mode", then the pep-json-server
is started. The pep-json-server is the pEp Engine that provides the JSON
API (over localhost http), which delivers all functionalities of pEp
(such as encryption, decryption, security level, trustwords, ...).

The pep-json-server is intended to be a daemon and does not need to be
stopped just because Thunderbird quits. Enigmail will reconnect to a
running pep-json-server if you restart Thunderbird, and other
applications using the same API could also connect to the same
pep-json-server. Thus, yes it's desired to work like this.

-Patrick



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[Enigmail] [ANN] Enigmail v2.1.1 available

[Patrick Brunschwig]

I'm happy to announce Enigmail version 2.1.1.

Please note that Enigmail 2.1.x only works with Thunderbird 68, and
Enigmail 2.0.x only with Thunderbird 60.x.

This is a bugfix release. In addition, the translations for many
languages were updated.

Fixed defects
-

* When creating encrypted messages with hidden subjects, the subject
  cannot be restored anymore
* Importing keys attached to emails does not work
* Reading keys from Autocrypt Key Gossip not possible for plaintext
  emails
* Dark theme / some text hard to read


Obtaining Enigmail
---
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https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/download-old-versions
The changelog is available from
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Re: [Enigmail] Enigmail General Failings

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 29.07.2019 12:42, David wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Enigmail has general serious failings.
> 
> When I had one set of keys - everything worked fine. No problems.
> 
> I decided to create a key pair for
> 
> site-ad...@gbenet.com
> da...@gbenet.com
> skip...@gbenet.com I also had
> postmas...@gbenet.com
> 
> Enigmail refuses ALL PASSWORDS refuses to ENCRYPT and refuses to SIGN on
> any of my email accounts.
> 
> For example
> 
> site-admin can not sign or encrypt to david's public key - it refuses to
> except the passphrase and refuses to encrypt
> postmaster can not sign or encrypt to site-admin's public key - it
> refuses to accept the passphrase and refuses to encrypt to site-admin's
> public key.
> 
> I can not digitally sign any outgoing emails - period.
> I could list every permutation of Enigmail's failings.
> 
> I can not digitally sign this email because Enigmail refuses to except
> the password!!!

Is the password dialog showing up or not?

If yes, can you send me a debugging log file that contains some of the
attempts to encrypt to one of the failing keys?

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] enigmail fails to start

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 26.07.2019 15:47, Philip Jackson wrote:
> Using enigmail version 2.0.12 (20190707-1417)
> Thunderbird 60.8.0 (64-bit)
> gpg 2.2.4
> in UbuntuStudio 18.04 LTS
> 
> I noticed over the past couple of weeks that occasional emails in gnupg or 
> enigmail lists appeared to have no content, only the footer. The message 
> source showed these were signed messages.
> 
> Investigation [Thunderbird's About Enigmail] showed that enigmail "failed to 
> access its core function" on the line where it normally shows "Using gpg 
> executable /usr/bin/gpg to encrypt and decrypt"
> 
> I checked and gpg and gpg-agent were running.
> 
> I haven't changed anything in the setup for years except for recent advice 
> about keyservers. I ran the Enigmail wizard but it seems to hang whatever 
> initial selection I make - but curiously after about 10 minutes when I've 
> given up expecting anything to happen, I suddenly find a setup dialogue with 
> preferences and showing that gpg has been found in /usr/bin/gpg. This seems 
> to enable enigmail to locate gpg and it all works.

I think you suffer the same issue as Jan-Peter Rühmann - one of your
keys is spoiled with 100.000s of useless signatures.

See here for more details:


-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Help Required

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 22.07.2019 17:15, David wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a 64bit Thunderbird 60
> I have Enigmail version 2.0.8 (20181008-1710
> 
> I have two key pairs:
> 
> postmas...@gbenet.com
> 
> site-ad...@gbenet.com
> 
> Within Thunderbird's settings I have selected the right key to sign and
> decrypt emails.
> 
> But and thi is a big but - I can't sign postmasters key
> 
> I can not sign or save a message because Enigmail can  not find my key -
> even though in Key Management it sees both keys.

Are both keys in the Key Manager displayed in bold (ie. as key pair)?

> The big problem is that Enigmail will always encypt with my postmaster
> key and never use site-ad...@gbenet.comc
> 
> Is Enigmail set up to use one default key?
> 
> Clearly Enigmail refuses to use site-add...@gbenet.com's key.
> 
> This state of affairs is really ridiculous!
> 
> Help is required in resolving this important issue

Do you have two different accounts in the account manager - one for
postmaster and one for site-admin? If yes, then you need to open the
Account Manager (menu Tools > Account Manager), and go to the "OpenPGP
Settings" for the "Postmaster" account. Click on "Use specific key
OpenPGP Key ID" and select the key for postmaster.

If that doesn't help, it may be that you configured gpg to always sign
using a specific key.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Upgrade Enigmail

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 18.07.2019 17:16, Tao-Kann Martin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> How do I upgrade Enigmail ?
> 
> Should I delete it from Thunderbird and then install the new xpi ?
> 
> Or simply install it from Ubuntu packages ? Are them up-to-date ?

The Add-Ons manager in Thunderbird takes care of upgrading Enigmail if
there is a new version of Enigmail.

The only thing is that you _currently_ have to upgrade Enigmail manually
if you upgrade from Thunderbird 60 to beta versions of Thunderbird 68.

Once TB 68 will be released, the upgrade of Enigmail will be done
automatically. I'm not sure about the upgrading process & speed of the
various Linux distributions.

-Patrick




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