Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

OK, I deleted all my keys, installed haveged, and generated new ones in
20 seconds (instead of 10 minutes). I think everything is fine now.

I don't know how to discover why the file permissions where misconfigured.


Em 28/02/2017 16:06, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
> Hi Anders,
>
> On 27.02.17 16:47, Anders Bateva wrote:
>> Good! Now the key manager loads all the keys.
> Very good!
>
>> I changed the expiry date,
>> disabled and revoked all of them that I could. 1 or 2 I couldn't due to
>> not being able to enter the correct password for them.
> As Doug wrote: If you haven't used them (nothing encrypted to them) and
> not send them elsewhere, just delete all you don't need any longer.
>
> If I were you, I'd try to find out why some of the files in the ~/.gnupg
> directory were owned by root. This is NOT the behaviour of a standard setup.
>
> This is all to avoid such a painful recovery again and maybe can help
> others to run into the same situation as you.
>
> Ludwig
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Ludwig Hügelschäfer]

Hi Anders,

On 27.02.17 16:47, Anders Bateva wrote:
> Good! Now the key manager loads all the keys.

Very good!

> I changed the expiry date,
> disabled and revoked all of them that I could. 1 or 2 I couldn't due to
> not being able to enter the correct password for them.

As Doug wrote: If you haven't used them (nothing encrypted to them) and
not send them elsewhere, just delete all you don't need any longer.

If I were you, I'd try to find out why some of the files in the ~/.gnupg
directory were owned by root. This is NOT the behaviour of a standard setup.

This is all to avoid such a painful recovery again and maybe can help
others to run into the same situation as you.

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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Doug Barton]

On 02/27/2017 07:47 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:

Good! Now the key manager loads all the keys. I changed the expiry date,
disabled and revoked all of them that I could. 1 or 2 I couldn't due to
not being able to enter the correct password for them.


Again, if you never sent them anywhere publicly, just delete them all, 
and start over again (assuming you have proper randomness on your system 
now).


You've created a giant mess for yourself, better to simplify and make 
something you have a chance of managing.


Doug


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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Good! Now the key manager loads all the keys. I changed the expiry date,
disabled and revoked all of them that I could. 1 or 2 I couldn't due to
not being able to enter the correct password for them.


Em 27/02/2017 11:23, Patrick Brunschwig escreveu:
> On 27.02.17 15:15, Onno Ekker wrote:
>> try the following command to change the owner of your files:
>> sudo chown expletive:deleted ~expletive/.ssh/*
> ... or better:
> sudo chown expletive:deleted ~expletive/.gnupg/*
>
> -Patrick
>
>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Anders Bateva
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> total 60
>> drwx--  5 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 21 13:52 .
>> drwxr-xr-x 46 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 25 23:29 ..
>> drwx--  2 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Nov 29 14:33 crls.d
>> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]42 Nov 25 20:00 gpg-agent.conf
>> -rwx--  1 root   root   0 Feb 16 15:14 .gpg-v21-migrated
>> drwx--  2 root   root4096 Feb 16 15:24 openpgp-revocs.d
>> drwx--  2 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 16 15:24 private-keys-v1.d
>> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 0 Feb 21 13:41 pubring.gpg
>> -rwx--  1 root   root   14298 Feb 16 15:24 pubring.kbx
>> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 11919 Feb 14 20:12 pubring.kbx~
>> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]   600 Feb 27 10:54 random_seed
>> -rwx--  1 root   root   0 Mar 18  2016 secring.gpg
>> srwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 0 Feb 21 13:52 S.gpg-agent
>> -rwx--  1 root   root1280 Feb 16 15:24 trustdb.gpg
>>
>> Appears my account can't open trustdb because it requires root access...
>>
>> Em 25/02/2017 13:18, Patrick Brunschwig escreveu:
>> > ls -la ~/.gnupg
>>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 27.02.17 15:15, Onno Ekker wrote:
> try the following command to change the owner of your files:
> sudo chown expletive:deleted ~expletive/.ssh/*

... or better:
sudo chown expletive:deleted ~expletive/.gnupg/*

-Patrick


> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Anders Bateva
>  > wrote:
> 
> total 60
> drwx--  5 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 21 13:52 .
> drwxr-xr-x 46 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 25 23:29 ..
> drwx--  2 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Nov 29 14:33 crls.d
> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]42 Nov 25 20:00 gpg-agent.conf
> -rwx--  1 root   root   0 Feb 16 15:14 .gpg-v21-migrated
> drwx--  2 root   root4096 Feb 16 15:24 openpgp-revocs.d
> drwx--  2 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 16 15:24 private-keys-v1.d
> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 0 Feb 21 13:41 pubring.gpg
> -rwx--  1 root   root   14298 Feb 16 15:24 pubring.kbx
> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 11919 Feb 14 20:12 pubring.kbx~
> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]   600 Feb 27 10:54 random_seed
> -rwx--  1 root   root   0 Mar 18  2016 secring.gpg
> srwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 0 Feb 21 13:52 S.gpg-agent
> -rwx--  1 root   root1280 Feb 16 15:24 trustdb.gpg
> 
> Appears my account can't open trustdb because it requires root access...
> 
> Em 25/02/2017 13:18, Patrick Brunschwig escreveu:
> > ls -la ~/.gnupg
> 
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Onno Ekker]

try the following command to change the owner of your files:
sudo chown expletive:deleted ~expletive/.ssh/*


On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Anders Bateva <
andersbat...@autoproduzioni.net> wrote:

> total 60
> drwx--  5 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 21 13:52 .
> drwxr-xr-x 46 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 25 23:29 ..
> drwx--  2 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Nov 29 14:33 crls.d
> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]42 Nov 25 20:00 gpg-agent.conf
> -rwx--  1 root   root   0 Feb 16 15:14 .gpg-v21-migrated
> drwx--  2 root   root4096 Feb 16 15:24 openpgp-revocs.d
> drwx--  2 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 16 15:24 private-keys-v1.d
> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 0 Feb 21 13:41 pubring.gpg
> -rwx--  1 root   root   14298 Feb 16 15:24 pubring.kbx
> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 11919 Feb 14 20:12 pubring.kbx~
> -rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]   600 Feb 27 10:54 random_seed
> -rwx--  1 root   root   0 Mar 18  2016 secring.gpg
> srwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 0 Feb 21 13:52 S.gpg-agent
> -rwx--  1 root   root1280 Feb 16 15:24 trustdb.gpg
>
> Appears my account can't open trustdb because it requires root access...
>
> Em 25/02/2017 13:18, Patrick Brunschwig escreveu:
> > ls -la ~/.gnupg
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

total 60
drwx--  5 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 21 13:52 .
drwxr-xr-x 46 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 25 23:29 ..
drwx--  2 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Nov 29 14:33 crls.d
-rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]42 Nov 25 20:00 gpg-agent.conf
-rwx--  1 root   root   0 Feb 16 15:14 .gpg-v21-migrated
drwx--  2 root   root4096 Feb 16 15:24 openpgp-revocs.d
drwx--  2 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]  4096 Feb 16 15:24 private-keys-v1.d
-rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 0 Feb 21 13:41 pubring.gpg
-rwx--  1 root   root   14298 Feb 16 15:24 pubring.kbx
-rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 11919 Feb 14 20:12 pubring.kbx~
-rwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED]   600 Feb 27 10:54 random_seed
-rwx--  1 root   root   0 Mar 18  2016 secring.gpg
srwx--  1 [EXPLETIVE] [DELETED] 0 Feb 21 13:52 S.gpg-agent
-rwx--  1 root   root1280 Feb 16 15:24 trustdb.gpg

Appears my account can't open trustdb because it requires root access...

Em 25/02/2017 13:18, Patrick Brunschwig escreveu:
> ls -la ~/.gnupg


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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Patrick Brunschwig]

What is the result of:

ls -la ~/.gnupg

-Patrick

On 24.02.17 00:50, Anders Bateva wrote:
> Tried, without success. There are still 16 "permission denied" errors on
> the log attached.
> 
> 
> Em 22/02/2017 04:00, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
>> On 21.02.17 20:55, Anders Bateva wrote:
>>> Debugging doesn't bugs me.
>>>
>>> Here is the log. I noticed that, 16 times, it tried to open
>>> "trustdb.gpg" and had "permission denied" ("Permissão negada"). Probably
>>> isn't what should happen.
>> No, under these conditions gpg can't work satisfactory. Please repair
>> the permissions of your ~/.gnupg directory.
>>
>> chmod -R u+rwx ~/.gnupg
>> chmod -R go-rwx ~/.gnupg
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Andy Ruddock]

Have you also checked the user & group of the .gnupg files?

Anders Bateva wrote:
> Tried, without success. There are still 16 "permission denied" errors on
> the log attached.
> 
> 
> Em 22/02/2017 04:00, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
>> On 21.02.17 20:55, Anders Bateva wrote:
>>> Debugging doesn't bugs me.
>>>
>>> Here is the log. I noticed that, 16 times, it tried to open
>>> "trustdb.gpg" and had "permission denied" ("Permissão negada"). Probably
>>> isn't what should happen.
>> No, under these conditions gpg can't work satisfactory. Please repair
>> the permissions of your ~/.gnupg directory.
>>
>> chmod -R u+rwx ~/.gnupg
>> chmod -R go-rwx ~/.gnupg
>>
>> This can also be done via your file managers GUI.
>>
>> Ludwig
>>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Tried, without success. There are still 16 "permission denied" errors on
the log attached.


Em 22/02/2017 04:00, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
> On 21.02.17 20:55, Anders Bateva wrote:
>> Debugging doesn't bugs me.
>>
>> Here is the log. I noticed that, 16 times, it tried to open
>> "trustdb.gpg" and had "permission denied" ("Permissão negada"). Probably
>> isn't what should happen.
> No, under these conditions gpg can't work satisfactory. Please repair
> the permissions of your ~/.gnupg directory.
>
> chmod -R u+rwx ~/.gnupg
> chmod -R go-rwx ~/.gnupg
>
> This can also be done via your file managers GUI.
>
> Ludwig
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Ludwig Hügelschäfer]

On 21.02.17 20:55, Anders Bateva wrote:
> Debugging doesn't bugs me.
> 
> Here is the log. I noticed that, 16 times, it tried to open
> "trustdb.gpg" and had "permission denied" ("Permissão negada"). Probably
> isn't what should happen.

No, under these conditions gpg can't work satisfactory. Please repair
the permissions of your ~/.gnupg directory.

chmod -R u+rwx ~/.gnupg
chmod -R go-rwx ~/.gnupg

This can also be done via your file managers GUI.

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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Debugging doesn't bugs me.

Here is the log. I noticed that, 16 times, it tried to open
"trustdb.gpg" and had "permission denied" ("Permissão negada"). Probably
isn't what should happen.


Em 21/02/2017 16:42, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
> Hi Anders,
>
> On 21.02.17 20:18, Anders Bateva wrote:
>> gpg -K shows nothing
>>
>> gpg2 -K shows the keys
>>
>> So, the storage is different. But I generated all of them on gpg2 and
>> they are stored on gpg2 and Enigmail access gpg2.
> This is all very strange. To find the root of your problems, we would
> need to see the debug log not only during startup, but during the launch
> of Enigmails key manager. Sorry to bug you for more and more debugging
> actions.
>
> So please, restart Thunderbird, and immediately after it is accessible,
> start Enigmails key manager. Then store the log. Thanks for your
> cooperation.
>
> Ludwig
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Ludwig Hügelschäfer]

Hi Anders,

On 21.02.17 20:18, Anders Bateva wrote:
> gpg -K shows nothing
> 
> gpg2 -K shows the keys
> 
> So, the storage is different. But I generated all of them on gpg2 and
> they are stored on gpg2 and Enigmail access gpg2.

This is all very strange. To find the root of your problems, we would
need to see the debug log not only during startup, but during the launch
of Enigmails key manager. Sorry to bug you for more and more debugging
actions.

So please, restart Thunderbird, and immediately after it is accessible,
start Enigmails key manager. Then store the log. Thanks for your
cooperation.

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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

gpg -K shows nothing

gpg2 -K shows the keys


So, the storage is different. But I generated all of them on gpg2 and
they are stored on gpg2 and Enigmail access gpg2.


Em 19/02/2017 04:19, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
> On 18.02.17 13:21, Anders Bateva wrote:
>> Em 16/02/2017 19:03, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
>>> On 16.02.17 21:41, Anders Bateva wrote:
>>>
 Maybe... It's communicating with gpg (v1) instead of gpg (v2)? That
 symlink thing that was initially told?
>>> That's a possible reason. To be sure, would you please create a debug
>>> log file after a startup of Enigmail (Instructions are here:
>>> https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/faq?view=topic=15#faqLink_6) and
>>> post it here. You may want to obfuscate personal information in the file
>>> before posting it here.
>> Log attached.
> This looks all unproblematic. Enigmail finds gpg2 and will use it. There
> should be no problem at all when using Enigmail. To clarify what has
> happend, would you please check the output of the following commands:
>
>   gpg -K
>
> and
>
>   gpg2 -K
>
> (remind that K is a capital letter). If the outcome is different, then
> you generated your key with one gpg version, Enigmail uses the other and
> they have different storage systems.
>
> Ludwig
>
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

They don't appear on the Enigmail key manager. There is no configuration
to be done on the keys inside the addon.


Em 21/02/2017 16:00, Onno Ekker escreveu:
> Did you set owner trust on the keys?
>
> On 21 Feb 2017, at 19:37, Anders Bateva
>  > wrote:
>
>> Checked by default.
>>
>> Unchecking and checking again does not change anything.
>>
>>
>> Em 21/02/2017 15:33, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
>>> On 21.02.17 17:53, Anders Bateva wrote:
 Path is already set to  /usr/bin/gpg2 by default.
>>> Anders, did you check the checkbox "Display All keys by Default"?
>>>
>>> Ludwig
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Onno Ekker]

Did you set owner trust on the keys?

> On 21 Feb 2017, at 19:37, Anders Bateva  
> wrote:
> 
> Checked by default.
> 
> Unchecking and checking again does not change anything.
> 
> Em 21/02/2017 15:33, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
>>> On 21.02.17 17:53, Anders Bateva wrote:
>>> Path is already set to  /usr/bin/gpg2 by default.
>> Anders, did you check the checkbox "Display All keys by Default"?
>> 
>> Ludwig
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Checked by default.

Unchecking and checking again does not change anything.


Em 21/02/2017 15:33, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
> On 21.02.17 17:53, Anders Bateva wrote:
>> Path is already set to  /usr/bin/gpg2 by default.
> Anders, did you check the checkbox "Display All keys by Default"?
>
> Ludwig
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Ludwig Hügelschäfer]

On 21.02.17 17:53, Anders Bateva wrote:
> Path is already set to  /usr/bin/gpg2 by default.

Anders, did you check the checkbox "Display All keys by Default"?

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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Em 16/02/2017 17:24, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
> Hi Anders,
>
> On 16.02.17 18:36, Anders Bateva wrote:
>> Hello I used /"gpg2 --full-gen-key/", and a key pair was generated in
>> less than 10 minutes.
> That's quite long and an indication of missing entropy.
>
>> But, after generating, I used "/gpg2 -k/" and
>> discovered there are 5 keys for my e-mail address on my computer.
>> Appears some of the earlier tentatives of creating the key pair really
>> created a key pair. Those are set to expire on 2021 or 2022. The one I
>> created right now is set to expire on 2018.
> Having an expiry date is not a bad idea. I once was glad that an
> unusable, but uploaded key had an expiry date set. If it is near, then
> you can easily extend the expiry period. Enigmail will tell you when the
> expiry is near. You then can decide what to do.
>
>> Now, what should I do, in order to start using the key pair on my
>> Thunderbird client, "/gpg2 --send-keys/"?
>> And how to "cancel" the previous key pairs, "/--delete-keys/",
>> "/--gen-revoke/"?
> As Doug said: If they were never used and are not uploaded or sent
> anywhere, just delete them.
>
> The next thing to do is to tell Enigmail to use the last generated key.
> You should open the settings of the account you want to use with
> encryption. Then select "OpenPGP security". The checkbox "Enable OpenPGP
> support" should be selected.
Already selected.
> Next, use the "Use specific OpenPGP key ID" should be selected. Click on
> the "Select key..." button. A key listing should open. Select the key
> you want to use.
Blank.
> If you have further questions, please ask!
>
> Ludwig
>
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Path is already set to  /usr/bin/gpg2 by default.

Em 21/02/2017 13:49, Patrick Brunschwig escreveu:
> On 21.02.17 17:43, Anders Bateva wrote:
>>
>> Em 19/02/2017 09:29, Mike Acker escreveu:
>>> On 02/19/2017 02:19 AM, enigmail-users-requ...@enigmail.net wrote:
 Impossible to generate key
>>> ==>
>>> If they don't come up, then from the Enigmail, Key Management dialog, 
>>> select the File
>>> option and hit reload key cache.this should get the keys for you;
>>> let us know if it does not.
>>>
>>> Nothing shown.
>>> <==
>>>
>>> this means your Thunderbird is not communicating with the daemon -- i think 
>>> they call it gnome-keyring-daemon.   this means something is not installed 
>>> properly.   i'd try removing the Enigmail plug-in and then re-install it.
>> I already did this many times before.
>>> it appears to me that gpg and gpg2 use the same keyring: if i do --list-key 
>>> using either program i get the same result.   you should too; you might 
>>> check this -- did you mention you had un-installed or attempted to 
>>> un-install gpg ?you don't want to do that: keep both programs on your 
>>> system.
>> Nope, /gpg --list-key/ return nothing, while /gpg2 --list-key/ returns 5
>> keys I generated + 1 I added and don't know how.
> This is because the keys were generated with GnuPG 2.1. GnuPG 2.1 stores
> the keys differently than GnuPG 1.4 and 2.0; therefore you don't see
> these keys with "gpg".
>
> As you do have a list of keys from gpg2, I'd recommend you set the path
> for GnuPG in Enigmail to /usr/bin/gpg2 (menu Enigmail > Preferences),
> such that these keys are visible in Enigmail.
>
> -Patrick
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Patrick Brunschwig]

On 21.02.17 17:43, Anders Bateva wrote:
> 
> 
> Em 19/02/2017 09:29, Mike Acker escreveu:
>> On 02/19/2017 02:19 AM, enigmail-users-requ...@enigmail.net wrote:
>>> Impossible to generate key
>> ==>
>> If they don't come up, then from the Enigmail, Key Management dialog, select 
>> the File
>> option and hit reload key cache.this should get the keys for you;
>> let us know if it does not.
>>
>> Nothing shown.
>> <==
>>
>> this means your Thunderbird is not communicating with the daemon -- i think 
>> they call it gnome-keyring-daemon.   this means something is not installed 
>> properly.   i'd try removing the Enigmail plug-in and then re-install it.
> I already did this many times before.
>> it appears to me that gpg and gpg2 use the same keyring: if i do --list-key 
>> using either program i get the same result.   you should too; you might 
>> check this -- did you mention you had un-installed or attempted to 
>> un-install gpg ?you don't want to do that: keep both programs on your 
>> system.
> Nope, /gpg --list-key/ return nothing, while /gpg2 --list-key/ returns 5
> keys I generated + 1 I added and don't know how.

This is because the keys were generated with GnuPG 2.1. GnuPG 2.1 stores
the keys differently than GnuPG 1.4 and 2.0; therefore you don't see
these keys with "gpg".

As you do have a list of keys from gpg2, I'd recommend you set the path
for GnuPG in Enigmail to /usr/bin/gpg2 (menu Enigmail > Preferences),
such that these keys are visible in Enigmail.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Em 19/02/2017 09:29, Mike Acker escreveu:
> On 02/19/2017 02:19 AM, enigmail-users-requ...@enigmail.net wrote:
>> Impossible to generate key
> ==>
> If they don't come up, then from the Enigmail, Key Management dialog, select 
> the File
> option and hit reload key cache.this should get the keys for you;
> let us know if it does not.
>
> Nothing shown.
> <==
>
> this means your Thunderbird is not communicating with the daemon -- i think 
> they call it gnome-keyring-daemon.   this means something is not installed 
> properly.   i'd try removing the Enigmail plug-in and then re-install it.
I already did this many times before.
> it appears to me that gpg and gpg2 use the same keyring: if i do --list-key 
> using either program i get the same result.   you should too; you might check 
> this -- did you mention you had un-installed or attempted to un-install gpg ? 
>you don't want to do that: keep both programs on your system.
Nope, /gpg --list-key/ return nothing, while /gpg2 --list-key/ returns 5
keys I generated + 1 I added and don't know how.
>
> i see you sent Ludwig debug logs; he's a much better help on this than me!
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Mike Acker]

On 02/19/2017 02:19 AM, enigmail-users-requ...@enigmail.net wrote:
> Impossible to generate key

==>
If they don't come up, then from the Enigmail, Key Management dialog, select 
the File
option and hit reload key cache.this should get the keys for you;
let us know if it does not.

Nothing shown.
<==

this means your Thunderbird is not communicating with the daemon -- i think 
they call it gnome-keyring-daemon.   this means something is not installed 
properly.   i'd try removing the Enigmail plug-in and then re-install it.

it appears to me that gpg and gpg2 use the same keyring: if i do --list-key 
using either program i get the same result.   you should too; you might check 
this -- did you mention you had un-installed or attempted to un-install gpg ?   
 you don't want to do that: keep both programs on your system.

i see you sent Ludwig debug logs; he's a much better help on this than me!



-- 
/Mike


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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Ludwig Hügelschäfer]

On 18.02.17 13:21, Anders Bateva wrote:
> Em 16/02/2017 19:03, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
>> On 16.02.17 21:41, Anders Bateva wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe... It's communicating with gpg (v1) instead of gpg (v2)? That
>>> symlink thing that was initially told?
>>
>> That's a possible reason. To be sure, would you please create a debug
>> log file after a startup of Enigmail (Instructions are here:
>> https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/faq?view=topic=15#faqLink_6) and
>> post it here. You may want to obfuscate personal information in the file
>> before posting it here.
>
> Log attached.

This looks all unproblematic. Enigmail finds gpg2 and will use it. There
should be no problem at all when using Enigmail. To clarify what has
happend, would you please check the output of the following commands:

gpg -K

and

gpg2 -K

(remind that K is a capital letter). If the outcome is different, then
you generated your key with one gpg version, Enigmail uses the other and
they have different storage systems.

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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Log attached.


Em 16/02/2017 19:03, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
> On 16.02.17 21:41, Anders Bateva wrote:
>> Em 16/02/2017 18:36, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
>>> Try to open Enigmails key management. Select "Reload key cache". Is
>>> there still no key pair (keys in bold and pub/sec in the Type column)
>>> displayed? If not, Enigmail has a communication problem with GnuPG.
>> Enigmail->OpenPGP key manager (or management)-> blank list
>> File->Reload key cache-> blank list
>> Conclusion: Enigmail has a communication problem with GnuPG.
>>
>> Maybe... It's communicating with gpg (v1) instead of gpg (v2)? That
>> symlink thing that was initially told?
> That's a possible reason. To be sure, would you please create a debug
> log file after a startup of Enigmail (Instructions are here:
> https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/faq?view=topic=15#faqLink_6) and
> post it here. You may want to obfuscate personal information in the file
> before posting it here.
>
> Ludwig
>
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Platform=X11
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configuredVersion: 1.9.6.1
keyserver: keys.gnupg.net, pgp.mit.edu, pool.sks-keyservers.net
advancedUser: true

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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Em 16/02/2017 23:10, Mike Acker escreveu:
> GPG or GPG2 ?
>
> click the Enigmail option in the toolbar at the top of Thunderbird
>
> then click the Preferences option
>
> Observe message:   GnuPG was found i ... it will be gpg or gpg2 and if
> you have gpg2 on your system it should have identified that.
gpg2
> now that you know which GPG you are using, go to terminal and enter
>
> gpg2 --list-keys
>
> (if you are using gpg in Thunderbird then you would use that instead)
I already did this, using -k , it shows the keys.
> you should see the same keys using --list-keys that you see in the Key
> Manager dialog:   at the top of Thunderbird click Enigmail in the tool
> bar and then take the key management option.this should display the
> same list of keys.if you are using gpg2 in Thunderbird then
> Thunderbird Key Management should display the same list of keys that you
> see when you issue the gpg2 --list-keys command.
Nothing shown.
> If they don't come
> up, then from the Enigmail, Key Management dialog, select the File
> option and hit reload key cache.this should get the keys for you;
> let us know if it does not.
Nothing shown.
> use gpg2 --delete-secret-and-public-key 
>
> to remove all your keys except the one you are going to use.be sure
> to use the fingerprint ID as  -- as you have multiple keys you
> probably have the same e/mail on all of them.   
>
> when you think you are ready you may send me a test message.   set the
> subject line as
>
> MINT Forum GPG Test
>
>
>
> On 02/16/2017 04:03 PM, enigmail-users-requ...@enigmail.net wrote:
>> [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Carlisle T. Hamlin]

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On 02/16/2017 12:36 PM, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
> Enigmail does not publish your public key without your consent.

That having been said, it has been my experience that once a key gets
into the wild, it finds it's way onto keyservers whether you want it
to or not.

One great way to get a key onto a keyserver without having to upload
it yourself is to use it in an encrypted message group - you'll find
it won't be long before someone in the group performs a mass upload of
their public keyring, and your key will be forever after immortalized
in the keyserver rosters.

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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Carlisle T. Hamlin]

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On 02/16/2017 09:36 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:
> And how to "cancel" the previous key pairs, "/--delete-keys/", 
> "/--gen-revoke/"?

If you never uploaded them to a key server, or sent them out to
anyone, then there's no real need for a revocation certificate - just
delete them.

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Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)

iEYEAREDAAYFAlinTTwACgkQyLm4ydrABveGwQCfdintC826Fj/YNlyi4LgfkwgZ
Z/8AniqM53x+uKWaGOICrq5taQjixOgc
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Mike Acker]

GPG or GPG2 ?

click the Enigmail option in the toolbar at the top of Thunderbird

then click the Preferences option

Observe message:   GnuPG was found i ... it will be gpg or gpg2 and if
you have gpg2 on your system it should have identified that.

now that you know which GPG you are using, go to terminal and enter

gpg2 --list-keys

(if you are using gpg in Thunderbird then you would use that instead)

you should see the same keys using --list-keys that you see in the Key
Manager dialog:   at the top of Thunderbird click Enigmail in the tool
bar and then take the key management option.this should display the
same list of keys.if you are using gpg2 in Thunderbird then
Thunderbird Key Management should display the same list of keys that you
see when you issue the gpg2 --list-keys command.If they don't come
up, then from the Enigmail, Key Management dialog, select the File
option and hit reload key cache.this should get the keys for you;
let us know if it does not.

use gpg2 --delete-secret-and-public-key 

to remove all your keys except the one you are going to use.be sure
to use the fingerprint ID as  -- as you have multiple keys you
probably have the same e/mail on all of them.   

when you think you are ready you may send me a test message.   set the
subject line as

MINT Forum GPG Test



On 02/16/2017 04:03 PM, enigmail-users-requ...@enigmail.net wrote:
> [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

-- 
/Mike




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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Ludwig Hügelschäfer]

On 16.02.17 21:41, Anders Bateva wrote:
> 
> Em 16/02/2017 18:36, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
>>
>> Try to open Enigmails key management. Select "Reload key cache". Is
>> there still no key pair (keys in bold and pub/sec in the Type column)
>> displayed? If not, Enigmail has a communication problem with GnuPG.
>
> Enigmail->OpenPGP key manager (or management)-> blank list
> File->Reload key cache-> blank list
> Conclusion: Enigmail has a communication problem with GnuPG.
> 
> Maybe... It's communicating with gpg (v1) instead of gpg (v2)? That
> symlink thing that was initially told?

That's a possible reason. To be sure, would you please create a debug
log file after a startup of Enigmail (Instructions are here:
https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/faq?view=topic=15#faqLink_6) and
post it here. You may want to obfuscate personal information in the file
before posting it here.

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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Em 16/02/2017 18:36, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
> On 16.02.17 21:24, Anders Bateva wrote:
>> Em 16/02/2017 17:24, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
 Now, what should I do, in order to start using the key pair on my
 Thunderbird client, "/gpg2 --send-keys/"?
 And how to "cancel" the previous key pairs, "/--delete-keys/",
 "/--gen-revoke/"?
>>> As Doug said: If they were never used and are not uploaded or sent
>>> anywhere, just delete them.
>> I never sent an e-mail using them, but I don't know if they were
>> automatically uploaded by my e-mail client.
> Enigmail does not publish your public key without your consent.
>
>>> The next thing to do is to tell Enigmail to use the last generated key.
>>> You should open the settings of the account you want to use with
>>> encryption. Then select "OpenPGP security". The checkbox "Enable OpenPGP
>>> support" should be selected.
>>>
>>> Next, use the "Use specific OpenPGP key ID" should be selected. Click on
>>> the "Select key..." button. A key listing should open. Select the key
>>> you want to use.
>> The Enigmail key list is blank as always.
> Try to open Enigmails key management. Select "Reload key cache". Is
> there still no key pair (keys in bold and pub/sec in the Type column)
> displayed? If not, Enigmail has a communication problem with GnuPG.
Enigmail->OpenPGP key manager (or management)-> blank list
File->Reload key cache-> blank list
Conclusion: Enigmail has a communication problem with GnuPG.

Maybe... It's communicating with gpg (v1) instead of gpg (v2)? That
symlink thing that was initially told?
> Wouldn't I need first to add
>> the key pair generated on terminal to the Enigmail interface?
> No. Enigmail uses GnuPG for key storage as well as for all cryptographic
> operations.
>
>> And to a key server? But I don't know how, would it be "--export" and 
>> "--send-keys"?
> This would be the next step after fixing your setup.
>
> Ludwig
>
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Ludwig Hügelschäfer]

On 16.02.17 21:24, Anders Bateva wrote:
> Em 16/02/2017 17:24, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:

>>> Now, what should I do, in order to start using the key pair on my
>>> Thunderbird client, "/gpg2 --send-keys/"?
>>> And how to "cancel" the previous key pairs, "/--delete-keys/",
>>> "/--gen-revoke/"?
>> As Doug said: If they were never used and are not uploaded or sent
>> anywhere, just delete them.
>
> I never sent an e-mail using them, but I don't know if they were
> automatically uploaded by my e-mail client.

Enigmail does not publish your public key without your consent.

>> The next thing to do is to tell Enigmail to use the last generated key.
>> You should open the settings of the account you want to use with
>> encryption. Then select "OpenPGP security". The checkbox "Enable OpenPGP
>> support" should be selected.
>>
>> Next, use the "Use specific OpenPGP key ID" should be selected. Click on
>> the "Select key..." button. A key listing should open. Select the key
>> you want to use.
>
> The Enigmail key list is blank as always.

Try to open Enigmails key management. Select "Reload key cache". Is
there still no key pair (keys in bold and pub/sec in the Type column)
displayed? If not, Enigmail has a communication problem with GnuPG.

> Wouldn't I need first to add
> the key pair generated on terminal to the Enigmail interface?

No. Enigmail uses GnuPG for key storage as well as for all cryptographic
operations.

> And to a key server? But I don't know how, would it be "--export" and 
> "--send-keys"?

This would be the next step after fixing your setup.

Ludwig




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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

I could never think that less than 10 minutes was too much time
("forever"). That was what caused my question.


Em 16/02/2017 17:41, Robert J. Hansen escreveu:
>> How can you be so sure my system has not enough entropy? Wouldn't it
>> need to be measured first?
> When you hear hoofbeats, you look for a horse nearby.  It's only after
> you conclude there is no horse that you start looking for zebra.
>
> If key generation is taking forever, you think entropy and haveged.  If
> that's not the problem we'll start looking for zebra.  Until then, this
> is a horse we've heard many, many times before.
>
> In 25+ years of using PGP and GnuPG I've seen this problem literally
> hundreds of times.  In only a few cases has it not been entropy-related.
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Em 16/02/2017 17:24, Ludwig Hügelschäfer escreveu:
> Hi Anders,
>
> On 16.02.17 18:36, Anders Bateva wrote:
>> Hello I used /"gpg2 --full-gen-key/", and a key pair was generated in
>> less than 10 minutes.
> That's quite long and an indication of missing entropy.
>
>> But, after generating, I used "/gpg2 -k/" and
>> discovered there are 5 keys for my e-mail address on my computer.
>> Appears some of the earlier tentatives of creating the key pair really
>> created a key pair. Those are set to expire on 2021 or 2022. The one I
>> created right now is set to expire on 2018.
> Having an expiry date is not a bad idea. I once was glad that an
> unusable, but uploaded key had an expiry date set. If it is near, then
> you can easily extend the expiry period. Enigmail will tell you when the
> expiry is near. You then can decide what to do.
>
>> Now, what should I do, in order to start using the key pair on my
>> Thunderbird client, "/gpg2 --send-keys/"?
>> And how to "cancel" the previous key pairs, "/--delete-keys/",
>> "/--gen-revoke/"?
> As Doug said: If they were never used and are not uploaded or sent
> anywhere, just delete them.
I never sent an e-mail using them, but I don't know if they were
automatically uploaded by my e-mail client.

> The next thing to do is to tell Enigmail to use the last generated key.
> You should open the settings of the account you want to use with
> encryption. Then select "OpenPGP security". The checkbox "Enable OpenPGP
> support" should be selected.
>
> Next, use the "Use specific OpenPGP key ID" should be selected. Click on
> the "Select key..." button. A key listing should open. Select the key
> you want to use.
The Enigmail key list is blank as always. Wouldn't I need first to add
the key pair generated on terminal to the Enigmail interface? And to a
key server? But I don't know how, would it be "--export" and "--send-keys"?
> If you have further questions, please ask!
>
> Ludwig
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Robert J. Hansen]

> How can you be so sure my system has not enough entropy? Wouldn't it
> need to be measured first?

When you hear hoofbeats, you look for a horse nearby.  It's only after
you conclude there is no horse that you start looking for zebra.

If key generation is taking forever, you think entropy and haveged.  If
that's not the problem we'll start looking for zebra.  Until then, this
is a horse we've heard many, many times before.

In 25+ years of using PGP and GnuPG I've seen this problem literally
hundreds of times.  In only a few cases has it not been entropy-related.

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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Ludwig Hügelschäfer]

Hi Anders,

On 16.02.17 18:36, Anders Bateva wrote:
> Hello I used /"gpg2 --full-gen-key/", and a key pair was generated in
> less than 10 minutes.

That's quite long and an indication of missing entropy.

> But, after generating, I used "/gpg2 -k/" and
> discovered there are 5 keys for my e-mail address on my computer.
> Appears some of the earlier tentatives of creating the key pair really
> created a key pair. Those are set to expire on 2021 or 2022. The one I
> created right now is set to expire on 2018.

Having an expiry date is not a bad idea. I once was glad that an
unusable, but uploaded key had an expiry date set. If it is near, then
you can easily extend the expiry period. Enigmail will tell you when the
expiry is near. You then can decide what to do.

> Now, what should I do, in order to start using the key pair on my
> Thunderbird client, "/gpg2 --send-keys/"?
> And how to "cancel" the previous key pairs, "/--delete-keys/",
> "/--gen-revoke/"?

As Doug said: If they were never used and are not uploaded or sent
anywhere, just delete them.

The next thing to do is to tell Enigmail to use the last generated key.
You should open the settings of the account you want to use with
encryption. Then select "OpenPGP security". The checkbox "Enable OpenPGP
support" should be selected.

Next, use the "Use specific OpenPGP key ID" should be selected. Click on
the "Select key..." button. A key listing should open. Select the key
you want to use.

If you have further questions, please ask!

Ludwig





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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Doug Barton]

On 02/16/2017 10:59 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:

I thought it would be useful to set an expiration date, so if I did
something wrong I wouldn't be eternally attached to an
inaccessible/unusable key pair.


You are never tied to anything in PGP. If there is ever a time to revoke 
the key in the future, you can do so quite easily, as well as generating 
and socializing a new key pair.



How can you be so sure my system has not enough entropy?


Because I have over 20 years of experience with Unix systems and 
cryptography. Because you're not running haveged, and because it's 
taking so long to produce a key.


Do you have some specific objection to running haveged?

Doug



Em 16/02/2017 16:43, Doug Barton escreveu:

If you didn't send the keys to anyone, or upload to any key server
(which it sounds like you did not) then your best bet is to delete
them all and start over from scratch.

You really should install haveged, then wait a few hours, and generate
a new key. The process relies on quality entropy to work properly, and
you obviously haven't had it previously. Having good entropy on your
system is a requirement for a variety of other crypto purposes,
including using gpg down the road.

Also, unless you have a specific purpose for doing so, please don't
use an expiration date on your key. It adds extra complexity for no
good purpose.

hope this helps,

Doug

On 02/16/2017 09:36 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:

Hello I used /"gpg2 --full-gen-key/", and a key pair was generated in
less than 10 minutes. But, after generating, I used "/gpg2 -k/" and
discovered there are 5 keys for my e-mail address on my computer.
Appears some of the earlier tentatives of creating the key pair really
created a key pair. Those are set to expire on 2021 or 2022. The one I
created right now is set to expire on 2018.

Now, what should I do, in order to start using the key pair on my
Thunderbird client, "/gpg2 --send-keys/"?
And how to "cancel" the previous key pairs, "/--delete-keys/",
"/--gen-revoke/"?

Em 15/02/2017 18:16, LeRoy escreveu:

On 02/15/2017 11:28 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:

Hello. I'm using GNU/Linux (distro: Ubuntu), not FreeBSD - sorry, I
forgot to inform this. But, anyway, I did what you instructed:


When I looked at the headers it looked like you were using FreeBSD.
My mistake, sorry.  I am currently using Arch Linux.



So, I have both gpg and gpg2. I can't create a symlink because gpg
really exist, it's used for the VPN (when I uninstalled gpg
yesterday, the VPN, I could not login anymore, and when I
reinstalled the VPN today, it installed gpg too).



Here's gpg2:

$ gpg2 --version gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.11 libgcrypt 1.6.5 Copyright (C)
2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL
version 3 or later  This is
free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There
is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.


I noticed that /usr/bin/gpg was not a symlink on your system.  Is it a
hard link or is it gpg1?  You can use the file command to find out.

If it is not a hard link maybe you should find out what version it is.
gpg --version

As I stated previously Enigmail seems to depend on /usr/bin/gpg being
version 2 of GnuPG.



Should then I use /gpg2 --gen-key/? Maybe /gpg2
--full-generate-key/?


The answer to this question is first finding out what the file gpg
really is.  The second part depends how many questions you want to
answe
r.

This is from the man page:

  --full-generate-key
   --full-gen-key
  Generate a new key pair with dialogs for all options.
This is an extended version of --generate-key.

  There is also a feature which allows you to create keys
  in batch mode. See the manual section ``Unattended key
  generation'' on how to use this.

This includes what questions what cipher you want to use along with a
lot of other questions.  As a beginner I would use the just the
--gen-key unless you really want to learn all of the details.



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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

I thought it would be useful to set an expiration date, so if I did
something wrong I wouldn't be eternally attached to an
inaccessible/unusable key pair.

How can you be so sure my system has not enough entropy? Wouldn't it
need to be measured first?


Em 16/02/2017 16:43, Doug Barton escreveu:
> If you didn't send the keys to anyone, or upload to any key server
> (which it sounds like you did not) then your best bet is to delete
> them all and start over from scratch.
>
> You really should install haveged, then wait a few hours, and generate
> a new key. The process relies on quality entropy to work properly, and
> you obviously haven't had it previously. Having good entropy on your
> system is a requirement for a variety of other crypto purposes,
> including using gpg down the road.
>
> Also, unless you have a specific purpose for doing so, please don't
> use an expiration date on your key. It adds extra complexity for no
> good purpose.
>
> hope this helps,
>
> Doug
>
> On 02/16/2017 09:36 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:
>> Hello I used /"gpg2 --full-gen-key/", and a key pair was generated in
>> less than 10 minutes. But, after generating, I used "/gpg2 -k/" and
>> discovered there are 5 keys for my e-mail address on my computer.
>> Appears some of the earlier tentatives of creating the key pair really
>> created a key pair. Those are set to expire on 2021 or 2022. The one I
>> created right now is set to expire on 2018.
>>
>> Now, what should I do, in order to start using the key pair on my
>> Thunderbird client, "/gpg2 --send-keys/"?
>> And how to "cancel" the previous key pairs, "/--delete-keys/",
>> "/--gen-revoke/"?
>>
>> Em 15/02/2017 18:16, LeRoy escreveu:
>>> On 02/15/2017 11:28 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:
>>> > Hello. I'm using GNU/Linux (distro: Ubuntu), not FreeBSD - sorry, I
>>> > forgot to inform this. But, anyway, I did what you instructed:
>>>
>>> When I looked at the headers it looked like you were using FreeBSD.
>>> My mistake, sorry.  I am currently using Arch Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> > So, I have both gpg and gpg2. I can't create a symlink because gpg
>>> > really exist, it's used for the VPN (when I uninstalled gpg
>>> > yesterday, the VPN, I could not login anymore, and when I
>>> > reinstalled the VPN today, it installed gpg too).
>>>
>>> > Here's gpg2:
>>> >> $ gpg2 --version gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.11 libgcrypt 1.6.5 Copyright (C)
>>> >> 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL
>>> >> version 3 or later  This is
>>> >> free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There
>>> >> is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>>>
>>> I noticed that /usr/bin/gpg was not a symlink on your system.  Is it a
>>> hard link or is it gpg1?  You can use the file command to find out.
>>>
>>> If it is not a hard link maybe you should find out what version it is.
>>> gpg --version
>>>
>>> As I stated previously Enigmail seems to depend on /usr/bin/gpg being
>>> version 2 of GnuPG.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Should then I use /gpg2 --gen-key/? Maybe /gpg2
>>> > --full-generate-key/?
>>>
>>> The answer to this question is first finding out what the file gpg
>>> really is.  The second part depends how many questions you want to
>>> answe
>>> r.
>>>
>>> This is from the man page:
>>>
>>>   --full-generate-key
>>>--full-gen-key
>>>   Generate a new key pair with dialogs for all options.
>>> This is an extended version of --generate-key.
>>>
>>>   There is also a feature which allows you to create keys
>>>   in batch mode. See the manual section ``Unattended key
>>>   generation'' on how to use this.
>>>
>>> This includes what questions what cipher you want to use along with a
>>> lot of other questions.  As a beginner I would use the just the
>>> --gen-key unless you really want to learn all of the details.
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Doug Barton]

If you didn't send the keys to anyone, or upload to any key server 
(which it sounds like you did not) then your best bet is to delete them 
all and start over from scratch.


You really should install haveged, then wait a few hours, and generate a 
new key. The process relies on quality entropy to work properly, and you 
obviously haven't had it previously. Having good entropy on your system 
is a requirement for a variety of other crypto purposes, including using 
gpg down the road.


Also, unless you have a specific purpose for doing so, please don't use 
an expiration date on your key. It adds extra complexity for no good 
purpose.


hope this helps,

Doug

On 02/16/2017 09:36 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:

Hello I used /"gpg2 --full-gen-key/", and a key pair was generated in
less than 10 minutes. But, after generating, I used "/gpg2 -k/" and
discovered there are 5 keys for my e-mail address on my computer.
Appears some of the earlier tentatives of creating the key pair really
created a key pair. Those are set to expire on 2021 or 2022. The one I
created right now is set to expire on 2018.

Now, what should I do, in order to start using the key pair on my
Thunderbird client, "/gpg2 --send-keys/"?
And how to "cancel" the previous key pairs, "/--delete-keys/",
"/--gen-revoke/"?

Em 15/02/2017 18:16, LeRoy escreveu:

On 02/15/2017 11:28 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:
> Hello. I'm using GNU/Linux (distro: Ubuntu), not FreeBSD - sorry, I
> forgot to inform this. But, anyway, I did what you instructed:

When I looked at the headers it looked like you were using FreeBSD.
My mistake, sorry.  I am currently using Arch Linux.


> So, I have both gpg and gpg2. I can't create a symlink because gpg
> really exist, it's used for the VPN (when I uninstalled gpg
> yesterday, the VPN, I could not login anymore, and when I
> reinstalled the VPN today, it installed gpg too).

> Here's gpg2:
>> $ gpg2 --version gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.11 libgcrypt 1.6.5 Copyright (C)
>> 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL
>> version 3 or later  This is
>> free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There
>> is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

I noticed that /usr/bin/gpg was not a symlink on your system.  Is it a
hard link or is it gpg1?  You can use the file command to find out.

If it is not a hard link maybe you should find out what version it is.
gpg --version

As I stated previously Enigmail seems to depend on /usr/bin/gpg being
version 2 of GnuPG.


> Should then I use /gpg2 --gen-key/? Maybe /gpg2
> --full-generate-key/?

The answer to this question is first finding out what the file gpg
really is.  The second part depends how many questions you want to answe
r.

This is from the man page:

  --full-generate-key
   --full-gen-key
  Generate a new key pair with dialogs for all options.
This is an extended version of --generate-key.

  There is also a feature which allows you to create keys
  in batch mode. See the manual section ``Unattended key
  generation'' on how to use this.

This includes what questions what cipher you want to use along with a
lot of other questions.  As a beginner I would use the just the
--gen-key unless you really want to learn all of the details.




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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Hello I used /"gpg2 --full-gen-key/", and a key pair was generated in
less than 10 minutes. But, after generating, I used "/gpg2 -k/" and
discovered there are 5 keys for my e-mail address on my computer.
Appears some of the earlier tentatives of creating the key pair really
created a key pair. Those are set to expire on 2021 or 2022. The one I
created right now is set to expire on 2018.

Now, what should I do, in order to start using the key pair on my
Thunderbird client, "/gpg2 --send-keys/"?
And how to "cancel" the previous key pairs, "/--delete-keys/",
"/--gen-revoke/"?

Em 15/02/2017 18:16, LeRoy escreveu:
> On 02/15/2017 11:28 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:
> > Hello. I'm using GNU/Linux (distro: Ubuntu), not FreeBSD - sorry, I
> > forgot to inform this. But, anyway, I did what you instructed:
>
> When I looked at the headers it looked like you were using FreeBSD.
> My mistake, sorry.  I am currently using Arch Linux.
>
>
> > So, I have both gpg and gpg2. I can't create a symlink because gpg
> > really exist, it's used for the VPN (when I uninstalled gpg
> > yesterday, the VPN, I could not login anymore, and when I
> > reinstalled the VPN today, it installed gpg too).
>
> > Here's gpg2:
> >> $ gpg2 --version gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.11 libgcrypt 1.6.5 Copyright (C)
> >> 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL
> >> version 3 or later  This is
> >> free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There
> >> is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>
> I noticed that /usr/bin/gpg was not a symlink on your system.  Is it a
> hard link or is it gpg1?  You can use the file command to find out.
>
> If it is not a hard link maybe you should find out what version it is.
> gpg --version
>
> As I stated previously Enigmail seems to depend on /usr/bin/gpg being
> version 2 of GnuPG.
>
>
> > Should then I use /gpg2 --gen-key/? Maybe /gpg2
> > --full-generate-key/?
>
> The answer to this question is first finding out what the file gpg
> really is.  The second part depends how many questions you want to answe
> r.
>
> This is from the man page:
>
>   --full-generate-key
>--full-gen-key
>   Generate a new key pair with dialogs for all options.
> This is an extended version of --generate-key.
>
>   There is also a feature which allows you to create keys
>   in batch mode. See the manual section ``Unattended key
>   generation'' on how to use this.
>
> This includes what questions what cipher you want to use along with a
> lot of other questions.  As a beginner I would use the just the
> --gen-key unless you really want to learn all of the details.
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Doug Barton]

On 02/14/2017 03:47 PM, Anders Bateva wrote:

Hello. I've been plagued, on the last months, by the impossibility of
creating a key pair for me. I had given up, but as I continue to use
e-mail, I still feel the need to encrypt it, but I can't!

I opened "enigmail configuration assistant"->"standard configuration",
and, as always, this process progressed a little on the first 20 minutes
(1 tick on the progress bar). Then, it stopped for 1 hour. I already
tried before letting it alone for more than 4 hours, and no progress was
made. It simply can't generate the keys. The same happens by the way
"enigmail key manager -> generate -> new key par".

I already uninstalled gnupg, and I'm sure I have gnupg2. I have
Thunderbird 45.7.0 with Enigmail 1.9.6.1.

What to do?


Your system does not have enough entropy to produce the high-quality 
randomness that GnuPG needs. Install the 'haveged' package.


Doug


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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Ludwig Hügelschäfer]

On 15.02.17 22:15, Anders Bateva wrote:

>> As I stated previously Enigmail seems to depend on /usr/bin/gpg being
>> version 2 of GnuPG.
>>
> Do you have any suggestion about this? I depend on gpg1 for my VPN
> client, and gpg2 for Enigmail. So I can't just remove "gpg1" and turn it
> into a symlink. I decided to ask on the IRC channel of the VPN provider
> too, now, as they are involved on this matter.

gpg2 and gpg1 can coexist peacefully on a machine without affecting
Enigmail operation.

Anders, did you try

gpg2 --gen-key?

What was the outcome?

Ludwig




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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Em 15/02/2017 18:16, LeRoy escreveu:
> On 02/15/2017 11:28 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:
> > Hello. I'm using GNU/Linux (distro: Ubuntu), not FreeBSD - sorry, I
> > forgot to inform this. But, anyway, I did what you instructed:
>
> When I looked at the headers it looked like you were using FreeBSD.
> My mistake, sorry.  I am currently using Arch Linux.
>
>
> > So, I have both gpg and gpg2. I can't create a symlink because gpg
> > really exist, it's used for the VPN (when I uninstalled gpg
> > yesterday, the VPN, I could not login anymore, and when I
> > reinstalled the VPN today, it installed gpg too).
>
> > Here's gpg2:
> >> $ gpg2 --version gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.11 libgcrypt 1.6.5 Copyright (C)
> >> 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL
> >> version 3 or later  This is
> >> free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There
> >> is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>
> I noticed that /usr/bin/gpg was not a symlink on your system.  Is it a
> hard link or is it gpg1?  You can use the file command to find out.
>
> If it is not a hard link maybe you should find out what version it is.
> gpg --version
I already sent the result of "/gpg --version/", on the last e-mail: it
returns version 1.4.20. And "/gpg2 --version/" returns version 2.1.11.
So I have both.

>
> As I stated previously Enigmail seems to depend on /usr/bin/gpg being
> version 2 of GnuPG.
>
Do you have any suggestion about this? I depend on gpg1 for my VPN
client, and gpg2 for Enigmail. So I can't just remove "gpg1" and turn it
into a symlink. I decided to ask on the IRC channel of the VPN provider
too, now, as they are involved on this matter.

>
> > Should then I use /gpg2 --gen-key/? Maybe /gpg2
> > --full-generate-key/?
>
> The answer to this question is first finding out what the file gpg
> really is.  The second part depends how many questions you want to answe
> r.
>
> This is from the man page:
>
>   --full-generate-key
>--full-gen-key
>   Generate a new key pair with dialogs for all options.
> This is an extended version of --generate-key.
>
>   There is also a feature which allows you to create keys
>   in batch mode. See the manual section ``Unattended key
>   generation'' on how to use this.
>
> This includes what questions what cipher you want to use along with a
> lot of other questions.  As a beginner I would use the just the
> --gen-key unless you really want to learn all of the details.
>
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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[LeRoy]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

On 02/15/2017 11:28 AM, Anders Bateva wrote:
> Hello. I'm using GNU/Linux (distro: Ubuntu), not FreeBSD - sorry, I
> forgot to inform this. But, anyway, I did what you instructed:

When I looked at the headers it looked like you were using FreeBSD.
My mistake, sorry.  I am currently using Arch Linux.


> So, I have both gpg and gpg2. I can't create a symlink because gpg 
> really exist, it's used for the VPN (when I uninstalled gpg
> yesterday, the VPN, I could not login anymore, and when I
> reinstalled the VPN today, it installed gpg too).
> 
> Here's gpg2:
>> $ gpg2 --version gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.11 libgcrypt 1.6.5 Copyright (C)
>> 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL
>> version 3 or later  This is
>> free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There
>> is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

I noticed that /usr/bin/gpg was not a symlink on your system.  Is it a
hard link or is it gpg1?  You can use the file command to find out.

If it is not a hard link maybe you should find out what version it is.
gpg --version

As I stated previously Enigmail seems to depend on /usr/bin/gpg being
version 2 of GnuPG.

> 
> Should then I use /gpg2 --gen-key/? Maybe /gpg2
> --full-generate-key/?

The answer to this question is first finding out what the file gpg
really is.  The second part depends how many questions you want to answe
r.

This is from the man page:

  --full-generate-key
   --full-gen-key
  Generate a new key pair with dialogs for all options.
  This is an extended version of --generate-key.

  There is also a feature which allows you to create keys
  in batch mode. See the manual section ``Unattended key
  generation'' on how to use this.

This includes what questions what cipher you want to use along with a
lot of other questions.  As a beginner I would use the just the
- --gen-key unless you really want to learn all of the details.

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Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[Anders Bateva]

Hello.
I'm using GNU/Linux (distro: Ubuntu), not FreeBSD - sorry, I forgot to
inform this. But, anyway, I did what you instructed:
> $ gpg --version
> gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.20
> Copyright (C) 2015 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
> 
> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>
> Home: ~/.gnupg
> Supported algorithms:
> Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA
> Cipher: IDEA, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256,
>   TWOFISH, CAMELLIA128, CAMELLIA192, CAMELLIA256
> Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512,
>SHA224
> Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB, BZIP2
And:
> $ ls -lh /usr/bin/gpg*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 985K Aug 18 08:54 /usr/bin/gpg
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 896K Apr  8  2016 /usr/bin/gpg2
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 345K Apr  8  2016 /usr/bin/gpg-agent
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 137K Apr  8  2016 /usr/bin/gpgconf
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 139K Apr  8  2016 /usr/bin/gpg-connect-agent
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  27K Apr  8  2016 /usr/bin/gpgparsemail
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  59K Aug 18 08:54 /usr/bin/gpgsplit
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 364K Aug 18 08:54 /usr/bin/gpgv
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3,3K Aug 18 08:54 /usr/bin/gpg-zip
So, I have both gpg and gpg2. I can't create a symlink because gpg
really exist, it's used for the VPN (when I uninstalled gpg yesterday,
the VPN, I could not login anymore, and when I reinstalled the VPN
today, it installed gpg too).

Here's gpg2:
> $ gpg2 --version
> gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.11
> libgcrypt 1.6.5
> Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
> 
> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>
> Home: ~/.gnupg
> Supported algorithms:
> Pubkey: RSA, ELG, DSA, ECDH, ECDSA, EDDSA
> Cipher: IDEA, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256,
>   TWOFISH, CAMELLIA128, CAMELLIA192, CAMELLIA256
> Hash: SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224
> Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB, BZIP2

Should then I use /gpg2 --gen-key/? Maybe /gpg2 --full-generate-key/?

Em 15/02/2017 10:53, LeRoy escreveu:
> On 02/14/2017 06:47 PM, Anders Bateva wrote:
> > Hello. I've been plagued, on the last months, by the impossibility
> > of creating a key pair for me. I had given up, but as I continue to
> > use e-mail, I still feel the need to encrypt it, but I can't!
>
> > I opened "enigmail configuration assistant"->"standard
> > configuration", and, as always, this process progressed a little on
> > the first 20 minutes (1 tick on the progress bar). Then, it stopped
> > for 1 hour. I already tried before letting it alone for more than 4
> > hours, and no progress was made. It simply can't generate the keys.
> > The same happens by the way "enigmail key manager -> generate ->
> > new key par".
>
> > I already uninstalled gnupg, and I'm sure I have gnupg2. I have
> > Thunderbird 45.7.0 with Enigmail 1.9.6.1.
>
> > What to do?
>
>
> I noticed that you are using free BSD from the headers so I assume
> that you know how to use a terminal.
>
> Open up your favorite terminal an enter:
> gpg --version
> gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.18
> libgcrypt 1.7.6
> Copyright (C) 2017 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
> 
> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>
> Home: /home/leroy/.gnupg
> Supported algorithms:
> Pubkey: RSA, ELG, DSA, ECDH, ECDSA, EDDSA
> Cipher: IDEA, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH,
> CAMELLIA128, CAMELLIA192, CAMELLIA256
> Hash: SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224
> Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB, BZIP2
>
> You should get a response something like above.  If you do not get a
> response maybe you should see if gpg is installed on your system.  My
> favorite way is:
>
> ls -lh /usr/bin/gpg*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root4 Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpg -> gpg2
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 989K Nov  2  2015 /usr/bin/gpg1
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  59K Nov  2  2015 /usr/bin/gpg1split
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 364K Nov  2  2015 /usr/bin/gpg1v
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.3K Nov  2  2015 /usr/bin/gpg1-zip
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 930K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpg2
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 360K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 143K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpgconf
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 149K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpg-connect-agent
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  27K Dec 28 01:45 /usr/bin/gpg-error
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.2K Dec 28 01:45 /usr/bin/gpg-error-config
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4.8K Oct 27 12:05 /usr/bin/gpgme-config
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  68K Oct 27 12:05 /usr/bin/gpgme-tool
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  23K Jan 23 19:00 

Re: [Enigmail] Impossible to generate key

[LeRoy]

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On 02/14/2017 06:47 PM, Anders Bateva wrote:
> Hello. I've been plagued, on the last months, by the impossibility
> of creating a key pair for me. I had given up, but as I continue to
> use e-mail, I still feel the need to encrypt it, but I can't!
> 
> I opened "enigmail configuration assistant"->"standard
> configuration", and, as always, this process progressed a little on
> the first 20 minutes (1 tick on the progress bar). Then, it stopped
> for 1 hour. I already tried before letting it alone for more than 4
> hours, and no progress was made. It simply can't generate the keys.
> The same happens by the way "enigmail key manager -> generate ->
> new key par".
> 
> I already uninstalled gnupg, and I'm sure I have gnupg2. I have 
> Thunderbird 45.7.0 with Enigmail 1.9.6.1.
> 
> What to do?
> 

I noticed that you are using free BSD from the headers so I assume
that you know how to use a terminal.

Open up your favorite terminal an enter:
gpg --version
gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.18
libgcrypt 1.7.6
Copyright (C) 2017 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later

This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Home: /home/leroy/.gnupg
Supported algorithms:
Pubkey: RSA, ELG, DSA, ECDH, ECDSA, EDDSA
Cipher: IDEA, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH,
CAMELLIA128, CAMELLIA192, CAMELLIA256
Hash: SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224
Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB, BZIP2

You should get a response something like above.  If you do not get a
response maybe you should see if gpg is installed on your system.  My
favorite way is:

ls -lh /usr/bin/gpg*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root4 Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpg -> gpg2
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 989K Nov  2  2015 /usr/bin/gpg1
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  59K Nov  2  2015 /usr/bin/gpg1split
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 364K Nov  2  2015 /usr/bin/gpg1v
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.3K Nov  2  2015 /usr/bin/gpg1-zip
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 930K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpg2
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 360K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 143K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpgconf
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 149K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpg-connect-agent
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  27K Dec 28 01:45 /usr/bin/gpg-error
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.2K Dec 28 01:45 /usr/bin/gpg-error-config
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4.8K Oct 27 12:05 /usr/bin/gpgme-config
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  68K Oct 27 12:05 /usr/bin/gpgme-tool
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  23K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpgparsemail
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 190K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpgscm
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 455K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpgsm
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 141K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpgtar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root5 Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpgv -> gpgv2
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 405K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpgv2
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.4K Jan 23 19:00 /usr/bin/gpg-zip

As you can see I have both versions of gpg installed and /usr/bin/gpg
is actually a symlink to gpg2.  I think that enigmail requires this
symlink since it probably calls /usr/bin/gpg.  If you have
/usr/bin/gpg2 without a symlink gpg pointing to it then I would create
a symlink manually.

If there is no response from the ls command then you need to install
using the bsd pkg command.

If you have a symlink gpg > gpg2 why not attempt to create a key using
gpg on the command line.

gpg --gen-key
gpg (GnuPG) 2.1.18; Copyright (C) 2017 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Note: Use "gpg2 --full-generate-key" for a full featured key
generation dialog.

If the gpg symlink points to gpg1 then the newer versions of enigmail
probably would not work.  You need the gpg symlink to point to gpg2.

...

If you can generate a key manually then the problem is with enigmail.
 If you cannot generate a key manually then the problem is with gnupg.

I hope that this rambling from a paranoid old man helps :-)

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Open PGP Key: C34B77CC
gpg fingerprint:  8AD5 35EF 1FDF F1A7 E483  8CCE A50D 4E81 C34B 77CC

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Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/

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