Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-15 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:11:58 -0600 Derek Foreman said: > On 2018-01-14 12:37 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:06:49 -0600 Derek Foreman > > said: > > > >> >> non-technical debate and address one point> > >> > >> On 2018-01-13 12:37 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>> On Fri

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-15 Thread Derek Foreman
On 2018-01-14 12:37 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:06:49 -0600 Derek Foreman said: On 2018-01-13 12:37 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:48:15 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:45 AM Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 201

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-13 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:06:49 -0600 Derek Foreman said: > non-technical debate and address one point> > > On 2018-01-13 12:37 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:48:15 + Mike Blumenkrantz > > said: > > > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:45 AM Carsten Haitzler > >> wrot

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-13 Thread Derek Foreman
non-technical debate and address one point> On 2018-01-13 12:37 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:48:15 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:45 AM Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 13:48:46 + Stephen Houston said: Both of these cases ar

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-13 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:22:45 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > > On 01/11/2018 06:13 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > Thanks for your valuable input! We'll take it into consideration. If you > > have feedback for the developer team in the future, please be sure to > > include technical data to suppor

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-13 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 10:44:17 +0100 Davide Andreoli said: > 2018-01-13 7:37 GMT+01:00 Carsten Haitzler : > > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:48:15 + Mike Blumenkrantz > > said: > > > > > First, thanks for taking the time to provide numbers and details to > > support > > > your feedback. I realize t

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-13 Thread Pierre Couderc
On 01/11/2018 06:13 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: Thanks for your valuable input! We'll take it into consideration. If you have feedback for the developer team in the future, please be sure to include technical data to support your comments so that we can evaluate it fairly. On Thu, Jan 11, 2018

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-13 Thread Davide Andreoli
2018-01-13 7:37 GMT+01:00 Carsten Haitzler : > On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:48:15 + Mike Blumenkrantz > said: > > > First, thanks for taking the time to provide numbers and details to > support > > your feedback. I realize that it may seem like a burden to you, but it's > > hard for us developers t

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:48:15 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: > First, thanks for taking the time to provide numbers and details to support > your feedback. I realize that it may seem like a burden to you, but it's > hard for us developers to engage in a debate against vague handwaving in > the abse

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
First, thanks for taking the time to provide numbers and details to support your feedback. I realize that it may seem like a burden to you, but it's hard for us developers to engage in a debate against vague handwaving in the absence of any real data. I've replied to your points inlined for better

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 13:48:46 + Stephen Houston said: > Nobody said anything about GL. you want gadgets to be separate external processes (one per gadget) and i covered that. *IF* you want gl the cost goes up even more. if you don't use gl then you have a problem of having to render on cpu a

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Stephen Houston
Nobody said anything about GL. On Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 6:02 AM Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:13:22 + Mike Blumenkrantz > said: > > > Thanks for your valuable input! We'll take it into consideration. If you > > have feedback for the developer team in the future, please be su

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:07:54 -0500 Cedric Bail said: > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets > > Local Time: January 11, 2018 12:40 AM > > UTC Time: January 11, 2018 8:40 AM > > From: ras...@rasterman.com &

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:13:22 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: > Thanks for your valuable input! We'll take it into consideration. If you > have feedback for the developer team in the future, please be sure to > include technical data to support your comments so that we can evaluate it > fairly. why

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-11 Thread Cedric Bail
> Original Message > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets > Local Time: January 11, 2018 12:40 AM > UTC Time: January 11, 2018 8:40 AM > From: ras...@rasterman.com > To: Enlightenment developer list > Enlightenment users discussion & s

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-11 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
Thanks for your valuable input! We'll take it into consideration. If you have feedback for the developer team in the future, please be sure to include technical data to support your comments so that we can evaluate it fairly. On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:41 AM Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 10 J

Re: [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-11 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:38:27 + Stephen Houston said: i'm going to put my take on this: i think this is bad. it flies in the face of everything e was built to do. to be efficient. having a process per gadget is horribly inefficient. this is precisely what helps bloat out gnome and kde memory f

[E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-10 Thread Stephen Houston
Hello, I would like to point everyone to a new wiki page we have that details developing gadgets for Enlightenment using the sandbox method. https://www.enlightenment.org/develop/e/sandbox_gadgets Feel free to use the guide to create cool new gadgets for E and make sure you contribute back feedb