Re: [E-devel] Community Building - LoCos

2008-08-07 Thread Toma
Ive put together a couple ideas on a wiki entry. Its all concept stuff at the moment so the sourceforge mailing list doesnt work. I think it could be a great way to get small teams to collaborate on projects and then promote E and their own country. eg. Emulate - EFL based MAME emulator - proudly

Re: [E-devel] Licensing suggestion [OFFTOPIC]

2008-08-07 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:41:15 +0800 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as you retain this notice you can do whatever you want with this stuff. If you wish to use this in a commercial product, you must supply the AUTHOR or AUTHORS with 1 case of beer each. Which is probably a little closer to

Re: [E-devel] Licensing suggestion [OFFTOPIC]

2008-08-07 Thread Toma
On 07/08/2008, David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:41:15 +0800 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as you retain this notice you can do whatever you want with this stuff. If you wish to use this in a commercial product, you must supply the AUTHOR or AUTHORS with 1

Re: [E-devel] Licensing suggestion [OFFTOPIC]

2008-08-07 Thread Charles de Noyelle
As every reader is not in the AUTHOR or AUTHORS, could we make this licence give a pack of beer to everyone subscribed on list ? On 8/7/08, Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/08/2008, David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:41:15 +0800 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [E-devel] Licensing suggestion [OFFTOPIC] [JOKE]

2008-08-07 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:26:11 +0800 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/08/2008, David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:41:15 +0800 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as you retain this notice you can do whatever you want with this stuff. If you wish to use this

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-07 Thread Jorge Luis Zapata Muga
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't tell me that im wrong as i did eina and took the decisions about it. I have to explain this as this totally wrong. Eina's attempt

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-07 Thread Nick Hughart
Jorge Luis Zapata Muga wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't tell me that im wrong as i did eina and took the decisions about it. I have to explain

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-07 Thread Hisham Mardam Bey
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't understand what about the BSD makes it not always free, you can't steal the code, the free code is always there. Even if raster wanted to, he could not just up and close the code. He would have to make a

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-07 Thread Vincent Torri
Actually I thought it was BSD licensed. I didn't expect that Trojan horse tactic. Only after Vincent has asked me if it is ok for me to switch to LGPL I realized that i contributed to a proprietary project. Can you develop why a project using LGPL is a proprietary project ? For me, a

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-07 Thread Peter Wehrfritz
Vincent Torri schrieb: Actually I thought it was BSD licensed. I didn't expect that Trojan horse tactic. Only after Vincent has asked me if it is ok for me to switch to LGPL I realized that i contributed to a proprietary project. Can you develop why a project using LGPL is a proprietary

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-07 Thread Nick Hughart
Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't understand what about the BSD makes it not always free, you can't steal the code, the free code is always there. Even if raster wanted to, he could not just up and close the code.

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-07 Thread Hisham Mardam Bey
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people don't want their code forked off and closed away and want all contributions to come back. This is the difference. This sounds a lot like having your cake and eating it too heh. LGPL only stops the company

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-07 Thread Nick Hughart
Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people don't want their code forked off and closed away and want all contributions to come back. This is the difference. This sounds a lot like having your cake and eating it too

[E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread The Rasterman
ok. enough of the squabbling. e is not a political football. license is not a reason one way or another for success or failure if licenses are oss anyway. we're squabbling about strawberry vs chocolate. here's how it will go: 1. existing libs. the LGPL crowd - RESPECT the licenses already used.

[E-devel] [Patch] Tclock's tip and font classes.

2008-08-07 Thread Fedor Gusev
Attached patch allows the tclock module's tip (that's a popup that appears when you hover the widget) understand font classes, so you can easily change the font using Fonts-Advanced dialog. -- King regards, Fedor Gusev. ? patch Index: tclock.edc

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: proto/eina turran

2008-08-07 Thread Mathieu Taillefumier
Peter Wehrfritz wrote: Jorge Luis Zapata Muga schrieb: As i said too many times, there was edata, this arguments are refered to edata, not eina, you can think of eina on just the same conceptually lib but developed from the base code of edata. So i wasn't expecting developers on eina, i

[E-devel] Nightly build log for E17 on 2008-08-07 07:10:51 -0700

2008-08-07 Thread Nightly build system
Build log for Enlightenment DR 0.17 on 2008-08-07 07:10:51 -0700 Build logs are available at http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs Packages that failed to build: enna http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/enna.log epdf http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/epdf.log

Re: [E-devel] [Patch] Tclock's tip and font classes.

2008-08-07 Thread Charles de Noyelle
Hi Fedor, I'll ask *the* question everyone has on lips : is this code under LGPL or BSD ? More seriously, thanx for posting something about code ;-) On 8/7/08, Fedor Gusev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached patch allows the tclock module's tip (that's a popup that appears when you hover the

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread Dave Andreoli
- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: ok. enough of the squabbling. e is not a political football. license is not a reason one way or another for success or failure if licenses are oss anyway. we're squabbling about strawberry vs chocolate. here's how it

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:15:37 +0200 (CEST) Dave Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Thanks Raster!! finally a POW that respect the others :) Are you sure that we can (safetly) use LGPL for apps? From what I read on the gnu site LGPL is exaclty for libs, I didn't find nothing about using LGPL

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread Nick Hughart
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:15:37 +0200 (CEST) Dave Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Thanks Raster!! finally a POW that respect the others :) Are you sure that we can (safetly) use LGPL for apps? From what I read on the gnu site LGPL is exaclty for

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:57:00 -0500 Nick Hughart [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:15:37 +0200 (CEST) Dave Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Thanks Raster!! finally a POW that respect the others :) Are you sure that we can

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread Christopher Michael
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: ok. enough of the squabbling. e is not a political football. license is not a reason one way or another for success or failure if licenses are oss anyway. we're squabbling about strawberry vs chocolate. here's how it will go: 1. existing libs. the

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: tclock mekius

2008-08-07 Thread Christopher Michael
Enlightenment CVS wrote: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : mekius Project : e_modules Module : tclock Dir : e_modules/tclock Modified Files: tclock.edc Log Message: Patch from ptomaine, my awesome GSOC student :), to make the popup use font classes. Thanks

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: tclock mekius

2008-08-07 Thread Nick Hughart
Christopher Michael wrote: Enlightenment CVS wrote: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : mekius Project : e_modules Module : tclock Dir : e_modules/tclock Modified Files: tclock.edc Log Message: Patch from ptomaine, my awesome GSOC student :), to make the popup use

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: tclock mekius

2008-08-07 Thread Christopher Michael
Nick Hughart wrote: Christopher Michael wrote: Enlightenment CVS wrote: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : mekius Project : e_modules Module : tclock Dir : e_modules/tclock Modified Files: tclock.edc Log Message: Patch from ptomaine, my awesome GSOC student :), to

Re: [E-devel] E CVS: tclock mekius

2008-08-07 Thread Nick Hughart
Christopher Michael wrote: Nick Hughart wrote: Christopher Michael wrote: Enlightenment CVS wrote: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : mekius Project : e_modules Module : tclock Dir : e_modules/tclock Modified Files: tclock.edc Log Message: Patch from ptomaine, my

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Carsten wrote: ok. enough of the squabbling. e is not a political football. license is not a reason one way or another for success or failure if licenses are oss anyway. we're squabbling about strawberry vs chocolate. That's no doubt true as a rule on any given project, but

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread Nick Hughart
Jose Gonzalez wrote: Carsten wrote: ok. enough of the squabbling. e is not a political football. license is not a reason one way or another for success or failure if licenses are oss anyway. we're squabbling about strawberry vs chocolate. That's no doubt true as a rule

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Nick wrote: Jose Gonzalez wrote: Carsten wrote: ok. enough of the squabbling. e is not a political football. license is not a reason one way or another for success or failure if licenses are oss anyway. we're squabbling about strawberry vs chocolate. That's no doubt

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread Nick Hughart
Jose Gonzalez wrote: Nick wrote: Jose Gonzalez wrote: Carsten wrote: ok. enough of the squabbling. e is not a political football. license is not a reason one way or another for success or failure if licenses are oss anyway. we're squabbling about strawberry vs chocolate.

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Nick Hughart wrote: Jose Gonzalez wrote: Nick wrote: Jose Gonzalez wrote: Carsten wrote: ok. enough of the squabbling. e is not a political football. license is not a reason one way or another for success or failure if licenses are oss anyway. we're squabbling about strawberry vs

Re: [E-devel] RFC: embryo release in 2 weeks

2008-08-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Samstag 02 August 2008 02:52:08 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:25:17 +0800 Toma [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: seems there's a few votes for keep of embryo. i'm going to just monitor the sentiment here - i'm agnostic really - though edje needs a LOT better scripting support.

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Dave Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: ok. enough of the squabbling. e is not a political football. license is not a reason one way or another for success or failure if licenses are oss

Re: [E-devel] licensing - end it.

2008-08-07 Thread Ian Caldwell
An we've already heard your arguments, case closed now get to work! We've already lost time, members and devs due to this ridiculous debate. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Jose Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carsten wrote: ok. enough of the squabbling. e is not a political football.