Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2018-01-04 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 17:18:35 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > I don't think I can do this any longer. Any comment I make about usability > is met with > > "it's easy to understand if you know the internal state/functioning of the > object". believe what you want...

[E-devel] [support.osuosl.org #29680] enlightenment5.osuosl.oob fan failure

2018-01-04 Thread Jonathan Frederick via RT
On Tue Dec 05 18:54:21 2017, ced...@ddlm.me wrote: > > Sure. Do you have a reference or better a link to buy it of Amazon ? > > Cedric Ping! -- Jonathan Frederick Student Systems Engineer Oregon State University | Open Source Lab

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2018-01-04 Thread Cedric Bail
> Original Message > Subject: Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion > Local Time: January 4, 2018 10:21 AM > UTC Time: January 4, 2018 6:21 PM > From: barbi...@gmail.com > To: Enlightenment developer list > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2018-01-04 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Andrew Williams wrote: > Hi, > > I would avoid the name efl_release if it is not to do with object lifecycle > as that is the word ObjectiveC uses in their retain/release pair for memory > management. +1 I also find "release" to be something

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: promise: Add even simpler helper for main loop promise creation

2018-01-04 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Andrew Williams wrote: > Hi, > > Apologies for the future/promise gaff - I was working from the > documentation of the previous efl_loop_promise_new which also referred to > Future. > I will correct both. > > I am confused by the loop

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2018-01-04 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, I don't think I can do this any longer. Any comment I make about usability is met with "it's easy to understand if you know the internal state/functioning of the object". My premise is still "with efl_add sometimes returning ownership and other times not this is confusing for the

Re: [E-devel] efl_add causing confusion

2018-01-04 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, I would avoid the name efl_release if it is not to do with object lifecycle as that is the word ObjectiveC uses in their retain/release pair for memory management. Just a thought if we are trying to attract devs from elsewhere. Andy On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 00:04 Cedric Bail

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: promise: Add even simpler helper for main loop promise creation

2018-01-04 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, Apologies for the future/promise gaff - I was working from the documentation of the previous efl_loop_promise_new which also referred to Future. I will correct both. I am confused by the loop semantics. Many times I have been told that our UI work must happen on the main thread, which

Re: [E-devel] is there a roadmap for future significative improvements/changes

2018-01-04 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:49:03 + Andrew Williams said: Originally T5301 work was intended to be done a long time ago. But there was little interest in doing it. Then some interest, then that interest vanished. Now it's back. I have no idea if it'll vanish again. I won't

Re: [E-devel] Phab Task Spam

2018-01-04 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 07:41:29 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > If we are looking to grow the community don’t you think that “to report a > bug you must be approved by an admin” might be problematic? I totally agree. I'm trying to point out the obvious that having to

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: promise: Add even simpler helper for main loop promise creation

2018-01-04 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Andy Williams wrote: > ajwillia-ms pushed a commit to branch master. > > http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=e931fd698d26b8bec0e34239d2f79c059b339a51 > > commit e931fd698d26b8bec0e34239d2f79c059b339a51 > Author: Andy Williams

Re: [E-devel] is there a roadmap for future significative improvements/changes

2018-01-04 Thread Simon Lees
On 04/01/18 22:19, Andrew Williams wrote: > Hi, > > Our release page (https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/release_roadmap/) still > says that we are doing time based releases > > "We aim for a 3 months release cycle (with a release on the first Monday in > February, May, August and November)" >

Re: [E-devel] is there a roadmap for future significative improvements/changes

2018-01-04 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, Our release page (https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/release_roadmap/) still says that we are doing time based releases "We aim for a 3 months release cycle (with a release on the first Monday in February, May, August and November)" and "Release 1.21 is planned for late 2017". If we are now