Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 11:35:43 -0800 Bryce Harrington wrote: > > In practice, with both organizations, I've seen healthy interactions > between their staff and general members of the projects. The liaison > tends to be more of a facilitator of discussions than a bottleneck,

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 12:06:58PM -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:48:53 -0500 > Cedric Bail wrote: > > What would be the benefit of SPI/SFC ? > > In short they handling the financial and legal paper work and > compliance. They are accountants,

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 20:57:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > h) I think at some point we may have to do our own distro that > integrates E well and shows it off out-of-the-box. I would be interested in such. There are a couple existing.

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:30:41 -0800 Bryce Harrington wrote: > > I work with both SPI and SFC (SPI via X.org board where I serve as > treasurer, SFC via Inkscape where I serve as chairperson). Are you the liason? That was the only real limitation I saw to organizations.

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 12:06:58 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:48:53 -0500 > Cedric Bail wrote: > > > > Yup, paypal is not free and not without risk. > > Nothing is without risk. But digital currency is very risky. At

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 12:17:59 -0500 Cedric Bail wrote: > > It is unlikely we can get the amount of money needed to pay a > developer or more. So our use of the money will continue to be for > server/infrastructure maintenance and conference help. If you do have > an idea on how to

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 01:52:42PM -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:30:41 -0800 > Bryce Harrington wrote: > > > > I work with both SPI and SFC (SPI via X.org board where I serve as > > treasurer, SFC via Inkscape where I serve as chairperson). >

Re: [E-devel] A step to organization - Developer List

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:39 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. < wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> wrote: > One step I think that would be helpful towards organization would be a > simple Developer List page. Something like this, but could start out > very simple, no links, etc. > >

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On 7 March 2018 at 01:50, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 16:21:48 + Stephen Houston > said: > >> Sigh. You are missing the point... > > i'm not... you're saying "hey look he wants cherries. check out this box of > potatoes we

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 02:47:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > well tbh you're right here. crypto currencies swing far more in value > on a daily/weekly basis than the usd or euro do in a whole year. > > that's kind of ha;f the fun of them... :) For

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

I’m willing to do a fedora spin for the bleeding edge stuff if you want me to Sent from my iPhone > On 07 Mar 2018, at 06:56, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 14:03:45 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." > said: >

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 05:33:45 ACDT, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 20:57:17 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> >> h) I think at some point we may have to do our own distro that >> integrates E well and shows it off out-of-the-box. >

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

Stupid suggestion probably if you are going to use opensuse as the base why not maintain the existing code base and fork it and clean that up in a way kind of start from scratch? Sent from my iPhone > On 07 Mar 2018, at 07:40, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > wrote: >

Re: [E-devel] A step to organization - Developer List

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 19:16:05 -0300 Lauro Moura said: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 2:39 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. < > wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> wrote: > > > One step I think that would be helpful towards organization would be a > > simple Developer List page.

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:30:41 -0800 Bryce Harrington said: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 12:06:58PM -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:48:53 -0500 > > Cedric Bail wrote: > > > What would be the benefit of SPI/SFC ? > > > > In short

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 15:52:24 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 02:47:37 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > well tbh you're right here. crypto currencies swing far more in value > > on a daily/weekly

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 14:03:45 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 20:57:17 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > h) I think at some point we may have to do our own distro that > > integrates E well and

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 12:03:27 +1030 Simon Lees said: > On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 05:33:45 ACDT, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 20:57:17 +0900 > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> > >> h) I think at some point we may have to

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:48:53 -0500 Cedric Bail wrote: > > Yup, paypal is not free and not without risk. Nothing is without risk. But digital currency is very risky. At least there is some customer service, fraud protection etc. There is also Google Pay (wallet), but I am not a

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On March 5, 2018 12:20 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 14:15:03 -0500 > Cedric Bail ced...@ddlm.me wrote: > > On March 4, 2018 9:27 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. > > wlt...@obsidian-studios.com wrote: > > > On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 21:33:17 +0100 > > >

[E-devel] A step to organization - Developer List

One step I think that would be helpful towards organization would be a simple Developer List page. Something like this, but could start out very simple, no links, etc. https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/developers/ Using the following fields - Name with IRC Handle - Location - Role/Areas

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 09:54:50 +0100 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > > On 03/06/2018 07:44 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > tbh platforms is an issue. windows is kind of big as setting up a > > cross-build environment is a fair bit of work. setting up a

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

We have developers leaving or severely cutting back their work, and this includes developers who carry a large work load. Now we see Stefan has lost faith and interest in QA/CI and is going to step back from that... I think at some point we need to agree to stop arguing the merits of getting

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:59:02 +0100 Jérémy Zurcher wrote: > Rust uses github bot to post commits after testing thus ensure a good > state master branch. > > https://github.com/barosl/homu > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIageYT0Vgg Ansible seems to have made their own. Its

Re: [E-devel] Ecore - Efl.Loop + Task + Thread + App + Appthread + Exe

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:37:10 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:00:27 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > said: > > > >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 2:02

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 21:10:04 +0900 Christophe Sadoine said: > On 6 March 2018 at 20:34, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 09:54:50 +0100 Stefan Schmidt > > said: > > > > i really don't think we have a lot of break

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 13:43:09 +0100 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > > On 03/06/2018 12:34 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 09:54:50 +0100 Stefan Schmidt > > said: > > > >> Hello. > >> > >> > >> On 03/06/2018

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

Sigh. You are missing the point... On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 10:16 AM Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:27:06 + Stephen Houston > said: > > > We have developers leaving or severely cutting back their work, and this > > includes

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 04:16:21 +0100 Vincent Torri wrote: > > more precisely (see the french "1901 law" which specifies all the > legal stuff , and it is for all associations), it is not possible to > share profits out among a set of people (like the creators of the >

Re: [E-devel] Donations

On March 6, 2018 8:43 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 04:16:21 +0100 > Vincent Torri vincent.to...@gmail.com wrote: > > more precisely (see the french "1901 law" which specifies all the > > legal stuff , and it is for all associations), it is

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:27:06 + Stephen Houston said: > We have developers leaving or severely cutting back their work, and this > includes developers who carry a large work load. Now we see Stefan has > lost faith and interest in QA/CI and is going to step back from

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 16:21:48 + Stephen Houston said: > Sigh. You are missing the point... i'm not... you're saying "hey look he wants cherries. check out this box of potatoes we have!". i'm not saying that one or the other is invalid or wrong, but you're linking

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

No I'm saying look, potatoes or cherries let's do something, anything, other than nothing and here is a place to discuss with summarizations. On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 10:52 AM Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 16:21:48 + Stephen Houston

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

The very best open source project that I know of is Blender 3d. I changes quickly, a great user community and dev community, grows like crazy, is crushing the Pay versions of 3d software and is almost bug free. I would take a look at how they do things. On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Jérémy

Re: [E-devel] Ecore - Efl.Loop + Task + Thread + App + Appthread + Exe

On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:00:27 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: > On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 2:02 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > I just pushed: > > > > eb0b826776b60e0d97218242a5c285d146fb6f3b > > > >

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

Hello. On 03/06/2018 07:44 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > tbh platforms is an issue. windows is kind of big as setting up a cross-build > environment is a fair bit of work. setting up a windows vm costs money to test > (need licenses, or if you can scrounge one off another pc you

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

On 6 March 2018 at 20:34, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 09:54:50 +0100 Stefan Schmidt > said: > > i really don't think we have a lot of break issues given size and complexity. > not build breaks anyway. right now if jenkins detects a

Re: [E-devel] Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL

Hello. On 03/06/2018 12:34 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 09:54:50 +0100 Stefan Schmidt > said: > >> Hello. >> >> >> On 03/06/2018 07:44 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> tbh platforms is an issue. windows is kind of big

Re: [E-devel] Weekly news from the automated build and QA front

Hello. On 03/05/2018 03:21 PM, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > Hello. > > Summary: > o The server is coming up to speed again slowly after our hardware problems > o No new Coverity results yet, hopefully next week > > > This should give everyone an overview over what has happened in the last > week on

Re: [E-devel] Ecore - Efl.Loop + Task + Thread + App + Appthread + Exe

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 11:00:27 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > said: > >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 2:02 AM, Carsten Haitzler >> wrote: >> > I just pushed: >> > >> >

[E-devel] Proposal about project management and communication

Hello, I tried to summarize this afternoon discussion about project management in a task. If you have something to add please do it in the task if possible. You can also answer here if you are against having discussion in a phab task :) https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740