Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 09:02:04 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira said: > Em Qui, 2013-10-31 às 08:51 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu: > > > i know. i spent some of my early life on unix/linux paying large sums > > for > > o'reilly books. and reading them cover to cover. they had diagrams. i > >

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-31 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Qui, 2013-10-31 às 08:51 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu: > i know. i spent some of my early life on unix/linux paying large sums > for > o'reilly books. and reading them cover to cover. they had diagrams. i > frankly > far prefer raw simple code over those books. the code is digestible in > a

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:58:41 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira said: > Em Qui, 2013-10-31 às 00:48 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu: > > > this is simply a matter of time. spend 1hr adding a feature someone > > wants, or 1 > > hr writing docs. > > > Documentation is a feature too. in this ca

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:49:27 -0400 Robert Heller said: > At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:43:45 -0400 Enlightenment users discussion & support >wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > > > > At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:09:52 -0400 Enlightenment users discussion & >

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 22:05:06 +0200 Alan McKinnon said: > On 30/10/2013 21:42, Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira wrote: > > Em Qua, 2013-10-30 às 13:43 -0400, Nigel Sollars escreveu: > > > >> Would be cool to find a common agreement here. > >> > >> Nige > > > > > > Like Rasterman said: It's an open

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:02:24 -0400 Robert Heller wrote: > At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:09:52 -0400 Enlightenment users discussion & > supportwrote: > > The main problem with documentation-by-example is what happens when > there isn't an example that covers the question at hand? Or (worse) > wh

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:42:14 -0300 Enlightenment users discussion & support wrote: > > > > Em Qua, 2013-10-30 às 13:43 -0400, Nigel Sollars escreveu: > > > Would be cool to find a common agreement here. > > > > Nige > > > Like Rasterman said: It's an open source project. We can change t

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/10/2013 21:42, Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira wrote: > Em Qua, 2013-10-30 às 13:43 -0400, Nigel Sollars escreveu: > >> Would be cool to find a common agreement here. >> >> Nige > > > Like Rasterman said: It's an open source project. We can change the > project and if the contribution is usef

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Qua, 2013-10-30 às 13:43 -0400, Nigel Sollars escreveu: > Would be cool to find a common agreement here. > > Nige Like Rasterman said: It's an open source project. We can change the project and if the contribution is useful, it'll go upstream. But about "common agreement". This is not neede

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:43:45 -0400 Enlightenment users discussion & support wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > > At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:09:52 -0400 Enlightenment users discussion & > > support wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Just to chime in w

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Nigel Sollars
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:09:52 -0400 Enlightenment users discussion & > support wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > Just to chime in with 10c's worth. > > > > This is my personal preference, working examples atleast as a base works > > for me (

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:09:52 -0400 Enlightenment users discussion & support wrote: > > Hi, > > Just to chime in with 10c's worth. > > This is my personal preference, working examples atleast as a base works > for me ( examples as in code )... Documentaions words are ok for the nitty > gr

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Nigel Sollars
Hi, Just to chime in with 10c's worth. This is my personal preference, working examples atleast as a base works for me ( examples as in code )... Documentaions words are ok for the nitty gritty but not as a substitute for a good example. If you look at most tech books, the question is how many

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Qui, 2013-10-31 às 00:48 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu: > this is simply a matter of time. spend 1hr adding a feature someone > wants, or 1 > hr writing docs. Documentation is a feature too. > i personally use docs as reference only - i ALWAYS use example > codee. nothing to do with java

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:55:31 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira said: > Em Qua, 2013-10-30 às 22:42 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu: > > > given what you want is still a menu you can re-use the existing edje > > groups/parts for now until you have wrapped your head around edje. > > trust me - >

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
Em Qua, 2013-10-30 às 22:42 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu: > given what you want is still a menu you can re-use the existing edje > groups/parts for now until you have wrapped your head around edje. > trust me - > it's not something a document will tell you or teach you. it's cold > hard slog >

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 22:42:36 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 08:47:23 -0400 Robert Heller said: > > > At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:30:54 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:14:07 -0400 Robert Heller > >

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 08:47:23 -0400 Robert Heller said: > At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:30:54 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:14:07 -0400 Robert Heller said: > > > > > I am trying to write an alternitive version of the Enlightenment's 'start > > > me

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:30:54 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:14:07 -0400 Robert Heller said: > > > I am trying to write an alternitive version of the Enlightenment's 'start > > menu', where instead of a cascade menu it is a three column thingy (I am

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:46:35 -0200 "Eduardo Lima (Etrunko)" said: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Carsten Haitzler > wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:07:29 + Andrew F > > said: > > > >> ftp://ftp.deepsoft.com/pub/deepwoods/Other/RibbonMenu.png is working. > > > > not here - not when i

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread Eduardo Lima (Etrunko)
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:07:29 + Andrew F > said: > >> ftp://ftp.deepsoft.com/pub/deepwoods/Other/RibbonMenu.png is working. > > not here - not when i have to go via a squid proxy... > Good guy Etrunko fixes for you http://imgur.com/

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:07:29 + Andrew F said: > ftp://ftp.deepsoft.com/pub/deepwoods/Other/RibbonMenu.png is working. not here - not when i have to go via a squid proxy... Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): The server closed the connection without sending any data. but i guessed on what

Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?

2013-10-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 15:14:07 -0400 Robert Heller said: > I am trying to write an alternitive version of the Enlightenment's 'start > menu', where instead of a cascade menu it is a three column thingy (I am not > sure what this sort of menu is called), something like this (from Mint): > > ftp:/