[e-users] EAndora Release
I've published something I'm calling a release for eAndora for any Pandora users out there. http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2013/12/eandora-pandora-internet-radio-client.html ~Jeff Hoogland Bodhi Linux - http://www.bodhilinux.com/ -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Terminology fonts
Hi! Yesterday I installed the latest stable release for EFL 1.83, elementary 1.8.2, enlightenment 0.18.0 and terminology 0.4.0. First of all I would like to say that I really am glad I could switch my desktop back to enlightenment this year. Now... Once upon a time I used to use eterm as my terminal emulator, until the need for full UTF-8 support made me switch to gnome-terminal. So I tried out terminology yesterday. It really looks promising. I did have some trouble with the font selection in the settings menu, though. First of all, it does not make much sense to have all proportional fonts displayed in the list, because it is really hard to search for suitable monospaced fonts there. Then, for me personally the best terminal font to use seems to be 'DejaVu Sans Mono Bold', but I did not see it in the selection list, only 'DejaVu Sans Mono'. I found a config file at ~/.config/terminology/config/standard/base.cfg, but it is in a binary format, so I could not edit the font name there. So my question is: is there a way to set the font manually somewhere? regards Peter -- peter kollner pe...@asgalon.net -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
Hi all, Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100, Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de a écrit : Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. Same here. I confirm that these messages were not there with e18-rc2. On my system, most of the time intervals are around 0.01666s. I run Debian Jessie (64 bits) on a Dell Vostro. I also noticed that the messages stop when I switch to a tty (CTRL+ALT+F1) and resume as soon as I switch back to E (ALT+F7). I actually realized that while investigating the exact same unlock issue that Marc has mentioned in another thread. Again, I did not have it with e18-rc2. I wonder if these two issues could somehow be related? Thanks for the awesome work! Christian -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
Hi, I've looked into the code and the messages are generated by e_main.c, function _e_main_cb_idle_after (from line 1875 to 1900). It looks like this: static Eina_Bool _e_main_cb_idle_after(void *data __UNUSED__) { static int first_idle; edje_freeze(); #ifdef E18_RELEASE_BUILD first_idle = 1; if (first_idle) { TS(SLEEP); first_idle = 0; e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE; } #else if (first_idle++ 60) { TS(SLEEP); if (!first_idle) e_precache_end = EINA_TRUE; } #endif return ECORE_CALLBACK_RENEW; } E18_RELEASE_BUILD is defined, since it's from the release version, so the upper part is active. As far as I can see, this means, that every time the _e_main_cb_idle_after function is called, a SLEEP line is logged. Probably that was not the original intention, the first_idle = 1; line is causing trouble IMHO. Someone, who really knows, what's going on in the background should check this. :-) Regards, ADA On 23/12/13 16:23, Christian Bochu wrote: Hi all, Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100, Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de a écrit : Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. Same here. I confirm that these messages were not there with e18-rc2. On my system, most of the time intervals are around 0.01666s. I run Debian Jessie (64 bits) on a Dell Vostro. I also noticed that the messages stop when I switch to a tty (CTRL+ALT+F1) and resume as soon as I switch back to E (ALT+F7). I actually realized that while investigating the exact same unlock issue that Marc has mentioned in another thread. Again, I did not have it with e18-rc2. I wonder if these two issues could somehow be related? Thanks for the awesome work! Christian -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, -- Stefano Fortune of the day: Afternoon very favorable for romance. Try a single person for a change. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E18 modules Teamwork and Application Menu: where can I find more information?
As per subject... can anyone explain (or point to an explanation) what the modules Teamwork and Application Menu do? I've tried Application Menu, but the only application that was showing a menu was Firefox, and the menu wasn't even working. Also... the splash screen of E18 shows a version number of 0.17.0! Maybe this is the culprit: enlightenment-0.18.0$ grep -n 0.17.0 src/bin/e_main.c 267: e_util_env_set(DESKTOP, Enlightenment-0.17.0); Thanks, -- Stefano Fortune of the day: A day for firm decisions! Or is it? -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
On 23/12/13 18:50, Stefano wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, So it's a release that doesn't know it's a release:) rob -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] No applications in ibar
marco, are you still having this issue? I had a similar issue a while ago with no applications being listed in the everything launcher or startup applications (I don't use ibar so I don't know if it would have happened there too) and it turned out to be a dbus problem with efreet or ethumb (I forget which, i did a fix for both so i'm not sure which one it was) Look in ~/.local/share/dbus-1/services, /usr/share/dbus-1/services/ or /usr/local/share/dbus-1/services for the files org.Enlightenment.Efreet.service and org.Enlightenment.Ethumb.service. If you don't have these files, make them in the dbus-1 directory under your installation prefix (so if you installed in /usr/local/, put them in /usr/local/share/dbus-1/services). They should contain the following lines [D-BUS Service] Name=org.enlightenment.Efreet Exec=/YOUR/INSTALLATION/PREFIX/bin/efreetd adapt to you configuration as necessary, and do the same for ethumb. If you do have them, make sure they're pointing to the correct path for efreet and ethumb. I ran into this problem after changing my install prefix when updating to e18, and make/make install don't handle changing this file for you. Hope this helps! On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:43 AM, m...@mherrn.de wrote: On 22/11/13 15:42, m...@mherrn.de wrote: When you right-click the ibar, select Contents, under Applications there are no applications? Yes, that is the case (actually I don't have a Contents menu when right clicking on the ibar, but only Settings and from there I can call Setup. I have attached a screenshot that shows the dialogs. or If there are applications listed, you select an application and click Add and it doesn't show up in the ibar? No, I don't even get to that point, since no applications show up. Regards Marco Something to try is moving .e/ and .elementary/ somewhere and re-do the initial setup. Alternatively set a new user. I have already tried removing ~/.e. I have now done this with ~/.elementary, too, but it didn't help (~/.elementary isn't even recreated). Still no applications appear. -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] high cpu usage?
Hi guys, today I commpiled the efl 1.8.3, elementary 1.8.2 and E18 1.8.0. and I'm noticing E18 CPu consumption above 25% while idle, all the time. I thought that my video drivers were not working, but they do: $ glxinfo | grep -i opengl OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 550 Ti/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW! OpenGL core profile version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 331.20 OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler OpenGL version string: 4.4.0 NVIDIA 331.20 OpenGL shading language version string: 4.40 NVIDIA via Cg compiler O I have an old phenom 9600 quad (running in ondemand governor) and a GeForce 550Ti. I checked and EFL compiled with openGL and the openGL engine is selected (with smooth scaling and vsync) -- Wido -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
I have compiled it with *release* flag, but I do have all those 'sleep' in the logs 2013/12/23 rob r...@rektau.ukfsn.org On 23/12/13 18:50, Stefano wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, So it's a release that doesn't know it's a release:) rob -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] high cpu usage?
I just saw in another thread that there are TONS of 'sleep' messages written in hte ~/.xsession-errors. In fact, there are so many writes that I'm sure that's eating the CPU 2013/12/24 Wido wido...@gmail.com Hi guys, today I commpiled the efl 1.8.3, elementary 1.8.2 and E18 1.8.0. and I'm noticing E18 CPu consumption above 25% while idle, all the time. I thought that my video drivers were not working, but they do: $ glxinfo | grep -i opengl OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 550 Ti/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW! OpenGL core profile version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 331.20 OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler OpenGL version string: 4.4.0 NVIDIA 331.20 OpenGL shading language version string: 4.40 NVIDIA via Cg compiler O I have an old phenom 9600 quad (running in ondemand governor) and a GeForce 550Ti. I checked and EFL compiled with openGL and the openGL engine is selected (with smooth scaling and vsync) -- Wido -- Wido -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
And I think it's really distur 2013/12/24 Wido wido...@gmail.com I have compiled it with *release* flag, but I do have all those 'sleep' in the logs 2013/12/23 rob r...@rektau.ukfsn.org On 23/12/13 18:50, Stefano wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, So it's a release that doesn't know it's a release:) rob -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Wido -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
and I think is really disturbing the fact that it writes 66k of logs in 30 seconds: ~/$ .xsession-errors sleep 30 ls -lh .xsession-errors -rw--- 1 wido wido 66K dic 24 00:42 .xsession-errors ~/$ wc -l .xsession-errors 6077 .xsession-errors I also think it's eating my CPU, as I'm seeing about 25% usage while E is idle 2013/12/24 Wido wido...@gmail.com And I think it's really distur 2013/12/24 Wido wido...@gmail.com I have compiled it with *release* flag, but I do have all those 'sleep' in the logs 2013/12/23 rob r...@rektau.ukfsn.org On 23/12/13 18:50, Stefano wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:21:30 +0100 Andreas Kurth use...@akurth.de wrote: Hello, I compiled enlightenment 0.18.0 today and now I see tons of SLEEP messages being logged to .xsession-errors very frequently: [...] ESTART: 1630,45112 [0,01165] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,45860 [0,00748] - SLEEP ESTART: 1630,46173 [0,00313] - SLEEP [...] 0.18.0-rc1 did not behave like that, IIRC. How can I prevent e from eating up my disk space? Cheers, Andreas. I have built e18 as well by I don't see any SLEEP line logged in my .xsession-errors I have configured e18 with the --with-profile=release You may try to do the same. Best, So it's a release that doesn't know it's a release:) rob -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Wido -- Wido -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E18 ESTART - SLEEP messages in .xsession-errors
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 01:43:49 -0200 Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote: and I think is really disturbing the fact that it writes 66k of logs in 30 seconds: ~/$ .xsession-errors sleep 30 ls -lh .xsession-errors -rw--- 1 wido wido 66K dic 24 00:42 .xsession-errors ~/$ wc -l .xsession-errors 6077 .xsession-errors I also think it's eating my CPU, as I'm seeing about 25% usage while E is idle ln -sf /dev/null ~/.xsession-errors :) see if your cpu quiets down -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: You know what they say -- the sweetest word in the English language is revenge. -- Peter Beard -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users