On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:51:22 +0100 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said:
> On 21/08/18 03:30, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 00:02:33 +0100 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said: > > > >> Two recent annoyances: > >> > >> 1. I accidentally clicked on the Luncher Grid in Add Widgets to Desktop > >> so it's sitting in the middle of my screen and I can't get rid of it: > >> none of the mouse buttons do anything meaningful and DEL doesn't delete > >> it. How do I get rid of it? > > > > normally a right click would have a menu for the gadget and remove would be > > in there... > > Turns out Alt-rightclick brings up a menu > > > don't use bryce. it has usability issues. > > It was recommended on this list and I've been using it for a year or so > without problems :-) you hit one of the usability problems. it needs hidden bindings to use it (not obvious/srtandard way of accessing the controls).to change size of a bryce you need ctr mouse wheel... what if you don't have a mouse wheel? what if you don't have a keyboard around (touch screen only)? these things need solving. i am actually looking at doing just that. > > what you are talking about was an > > ibar gadget pre-configured in the shelf. > > No, when I install e, I get rid of the whole shelf/ibar thing, which is > horribly confusing and massively hard and time-consuming to configure, > and replace it with a bryce which works fine (except that I forget > occasionally how to reconfigure it, but that's a usability problem > inside my brain :-) no. it's an issue with bryce as you have to be told about the magic keys" needed to control it. > > a bryce is empty there s you have it. > > it needs stuff added. as i said - there are usability issues so i would not > > recommend using them until they are solved. i certainly have tried bryce and > > shouted at it, then deleted it. :) > > Interesting. What are the usability issues you have encountered? above. need alt+ left moue click+drag to move things around. right mouse on most gadgets does something for the gadget and you cant access/control the bryce (delete it etc.). right clicking on things has been a standard for decades as a "get me context menu/controls". yes. that's not touch friendly which turned up in linux much more recently than the shelf in e, bu solvable with a long-press to do the same thing. needing alt/ctrl to do basic things is not good. a right click/long press should always bring up some kind of context menu for such controls, or they should be always visible and accessible (like titlebars on windows are). the other is setting up of the gagdtes. you have a list of tyhem.... my first reaction was to click and drag since i saw no other indications that the gadget was checkmarked/selected to be there or other buttons and i still do that even tho it's click+release, THEN you get a drag happening, then you click on destination. making this work with a regular dnd would make more sense and with a fallback to the current way of click+release then click+release on destination if a dnd was not done. > The only problem I had was on an old machine, possibly a timing error: > if you try to re-position an icon by clicking and dragging, the > surrounding icons don't move and redraw fast enough and e SIGSEVs and > you need to hit F1 very quickly. Otherwise I just run my frequent > applications, and right-click to get the + icon to add them. > > Is there a schedule to replace ibar/shelf with an amended bryce? It's > basically a Mac dock where you can add icons and gadgets. It doesn't > need any more complexity than that. its the same as the shelf really just with it being harder to use (as above). > ///Peter > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
