[e-users] Enlightenment on a fridge
Just saw this story on slashdot. Reminded me of e16's ./configure script check that was something like: Checking for beer in the fridge...no OH NO! You must rectify this bug immediately! I'm guessing it no longer needs to run that check, it should just know it :) Nice work guys! Daniel. -- Phone : +82-10-5400-3296 (010-5400-3296) Home: http://snorriheim.dnsdojo.com/ Yujin Robot: http://www.yujinrobot.com/ Embedded Ros : http://www.ros.org/wiki/eros Embedded Control Libraries: http://snorriheim.dnsdojo.com/redmine/wiki/ecl -- Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App & Earn a Chance To Win $500! Tap into the largest installed PC base & get more eyes on your game by optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for grabs. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Some constructive criticism
On 16 April 2010 17:17, Christian Ullmann wrote: > Hi! > > What about eterm right now? I saw the sources on SVN but i havnt > compiled them. As you answered it seems eterm is a bit incomplete... > > And wasnt where a e-lib music player out there some time ago (the > interface was quite similar to xmms, but just not so complex)? what happend? > > > > > And by the way... what I REALLY NEED in E is way to configure my shelf > by x & y coordinates. Iam using 2 monitors (17" & 23") with xinerama, > but they have different resolutions. As you can imagin the shelf > configuration is not perfect for me using "set to middle left, bottom > middle, bottom right, ...) > And it would be really nice if i can configure some seperations between > the shelf-apps, so the shelf will fit perfeclty into my right monitor. > > But i was thinking E is just a good useable beta and thought you would > have done that with the final release. ;) > > > greetings > Chris > > ps. Arrr how incomplete the E17-beta is! You havnt thought about some > special needs & seldon used configurations used by some freaks! ;-P > On the flip side, I keep getting the same beta-like impression of gnome's awkward handling of multi-screens and multi-workspaces. E has always handled it much more nicely in my opinion. The reality is that any desktop in linux is going to be more or less complete here or there. I long ago stopped worrying about everything being gnome or everything being efl or everything being kde. People will program in whatever they're most comfortable with...and the fact that I can use whatever they want regardless of what desktop I'm in...I think thats great. I also think that the freedom to create in more than just the *one* way (aka ms/apple) is great and am perfectly ok with that situation. So, on my high end pc's, I typically run e17 because its light, responsive and its quiet! Nothing gets in your way. And because its an aussie who's making the magic! For my particular apps I'll use whatever I like the most, whether that's gnome-terminal or amarok, it doesn't really phase me. On my lower end pc's, I'm equally happy making do with a lower set of environmental constraints. End result, I'm happy with my computer(s). I spend so much time in front of them, and with much bigger problems floating around, I'd be a hell of a grumpy bear if I wasn't. > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- Phone : +82-10-5400-3296 (010-5400-3296) Home: http://snorriheim.dnsdojo.com/ Yujin Robot: http://www.yujinrobot.com/ Embedded Control Libraries: http://snorriheim.dnsdojo.com/redmine/wiki/ecl -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Compiling E17 from SVN
Hi, I was just trying to comile e17 from svn for a mate on ubuntu 8, and ran into libtool errors. I'm a bit unsure of the magic behind these so any advice would be helpful. * Autogen scripts ran fine for each module (efreet, evas...). * When running 'make', I got the following error. libtool: Version mismatch error. This is libtool 2.2.6, but the libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from an older release. libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.2.6 libtool: and run autoconf again. * Removing aclocal.m4 and rerunning 'autogen.sh' seemed to work for most of the packages until I got to 'embryo'. * Embryo kept failing persistantly on this one. ** Removing aclocal.m4 didn't help. ** Adding --force to the libtoolize line in autogen.sh didn't help. Anyone else had the same problem? Cheers, Daniel. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] New blog entry - Window manipulation and focus configuration nightmare
On 31/12/2007, Daniel Stonier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tyranny of the majority - I like that! Or like to fight against it anyway! > > I love E's philosophy in allowing the user to choose the style they > want. Too often 'hidden' functionalities become neglected and > subsequently either impossible or a very inconvenient to change in > systems that decided to obscure them for simplicity. > > On 31/12/2007, Ethan Grammatikidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sorry to say that my first response to this was "Oh no, not another > > blog to keep up with," or words to that effect. The content of that post is > > clearly written and quite well thought out, but it would be easier to > > discuss the points if they were in 8 to 12 separate bug reports. When > > several issues are all put together, only 2 or 3 of them will ever be > > discussed! Bug reports also offer the facility to track the resolution of > > each issue separately; meaning everyone interested in the issue can easily > > see which ones have been fixed & which ones haven't. > > > > With all that said, most of the points themselves are very logical. I'll > > confine my comments to point 7 and the one paragraph that really bothered > > me: > > > > > Fight against each useless option. An option that influences "something", > > > but has no real benefit for the user should be discussed again. It's not > > > a shame to remove an option that (nearly) nobody uses! > > > > One word: N. > > I switched to Linux in 1999, feeling very strongly about a couple of > > issues. I knew nothing about licenses and the motives behind them, nothing > > about the unethical practices considered normal in the software businesses; > > what I knew and cared about was that I was expected to use a GUI that was > > designed with no thought to what I was comfortable with! I don't know if > > you have heard the phrase "tyranny of the majority"? Tyranny of the > > majority is what happens when those in control decides that because "hardly > > anybody" needs a certain something, nobody needs that something. If "nearly > > nobody" uses something, that means that some people do, and chances are > > they use it for a good reason. In my case, funnily enough, matters > > pertaining to stacking order and focus were a significant part of my hate > > for Windows in 1999. I was delighted when I found I could have window focus > > entirely independent of the stacking order, amongst other issues... > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:54:11 +0100 > > Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Since the last months I noticed that E17 is becoming really stable from > > > the technical side. Thanks for this great window manager! > > > > > > But on the other side I noticed that the configuration usability is > > > sometimes a nightmare. The topics are sometimes to big to write them > > > into a single bug report. Because of this I decided to write a blog > > > entry about E17 usability. If you like we could discuss below the > > > article or here about my points. These are only my two cents, but I > > > think maybe someone else could have the same problems. > > > > > > Here is the link to my blog: > > > http://andreasvolz.wordpress.com/ > > > > > > And here a link to this special article: > > > http://andreasvolz.wordpress.com/2007/12/30/e17-window-manipulation-and-configuration-nightmare/ > > > > > > I don't like to flame anyone with my ideas. I hope you see it as useful > > > help. Currently I'm to busy in my job to participate more in E17 > > > development. But perhaps I'm able to help with some usability articles. > > > > > > regards > > > Andreas > > > > > > - > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > > > ___ > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >
Re: [e-users] non-Latin characters in e17-cvs
On 22/05/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:41:42 +0100 Foxy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > Quoting Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:45:38 -0500, Foxy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Kent wrote: > > >>> On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:25:23 -0500, Foxy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > I am using e17 from CVS (compiled with easy_e17 script). Unfortunately > > non-Latin characters (Cyrillic, Japanese etc) are displayed as squares > > (for example in emphasis and in title bar in Firefox). How can I make > > them display correctly. > > > > > > >>> > > >>> Change your default fonts to something besides Vera in the > > >>> configuration dialog, you can see them in the example textbox > > >>> with extended characters. > > >>> > > >>> > > Also is there a keyboard layout indicator for e17? > > > > >>> > > >>> cvs e_modules/language .. your milage may vary. > > >>> > > >>> --Kent > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> thanks for the response. I've got Verdana as default, which shows > > >> Japanese OK in the text box, but still I've got only squares in the > > >> FF title bar :( btw, I cannot change the font at all: after > > >> hitting Apply and closing the config tool nothing changes and > > >> opening Configuration Panel shows Verdana as it was before. > > >> > > > You have to check the "enable font class" for all of them that you > > > change to verdana. > > > > Yes, I did that, but still got those squares. > > try sans - not verdana. as long as evas built with fontconfig support this > should use the system "sans" and any fontsets configured for it for > international text display. I'm doing this at the moment but with sans-serif, it works fine. The default sans font for korean was pretty ordinary though. It's pretty easy to define your own preference for sans-serif though. I have a file in ~/.fonts.conf: sans-serif UnBom Bitstream Vera Serif Baekmuk Batang The original order was Vera then Baekmuk Batang, but the UnBom font is much better. If you want Vera first and Unbom as a korean fallback, just swap them around from what I have here. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Creating custom applications in e17
On 16/05/07, Nikolas Arend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Stonier wrote: > > At the moment, I left click the top corner and create an icon. That > > makes a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications. That's all you > > really need do to create one. If you want to go further, you can text > > edit the .desktop file so you can customise it for your own > > applications menu or use with an icon theme. > > > > Once you have the .desktop file, just drag and drop from the > > configuration panel into the favourites menu. > > > > On 15/05/07, Nikolas Arend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> in current e17 cvs, what is the preferred method of creating a new > >> custom application (i.e. .desktop file), e.g. for the favorite apps > >> menu? This functionality had been there before the transition to efreet, > >> but I can't seem to find it now. > >> > >> Cheers,Nick. > >> > > Yes, editing or creating a .desktop file by hand is of course an option, > but tedious for many custom applications. This "create icon" > functionality you describe is not there in current cvs, hence my > question. There is an "edit icon" option in the popdown menu when you > click on the window title bar, but that will only work if the > application is already started. Creating .desktop entries for scripts or > scripts starting another application with a gui is not possible (it was > before). I'd vote for putting the possibility to easily create .desktop > files via a gui back in, it'll make life easier for unexperienced users. Im sure something will go back in eventually. Reconciling everything with freedesktop standards will take a little while though. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Creating custom applications in e17
At the moment, I left click the top corner and create an icon. That makes a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications. That's all you really need do to create one. If you want to go further, you can text edit the .desktop file so you can customise it for your own applications menu or use with an icon theme. Once you have the .desktop file, just drag and drop from the configuration panel into the favourites menu. On 15/05/07, Nikolas Arend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > in current e17 cvs, what is the preferred method of creating a new > custom application (i.e. .desktop file), e.g. for the favorite apps > menu? This functionality had been there before the transition to efreet, > but I can't seem to find it now. > > Cheers,Nick. > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Where are desktop files written these days?
Forgot to mention, ~/.local/share/applications also seems to be where e is creating them. On 18/04/07, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings. > > I'm running current cvs, and attempting to set up icons again. I'm > getting clashes between Firefox & Thunderbird. IIRC the last time this > happened the eap file being created was called Gecko.eap for *both* > these apps. So perhaps E is now creating Gecko.desktop, or something. Or > maybe not. But anyway, where are the files it's creating when I 'create > icon'? > > Dan > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Where are desktop files written these days?
I ran into the same problem...seems to be in a state of flux atm, but if you put your desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications, they'll work in the apps, menu and ibar so long as the .desktop files utilise png's. Seems to be some problems if they utilise edje files. Cheers, DJ. On 18/04/07, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings. > > I'm running current cvs, and attempting to set up icons again. I'm > getting clashes between Firefox & Thunderbird. IIRC the last time this > happened the eap file being created was called Gecko.eap for *both* > these apps. So perhaps E is now creating Gecko.desktop, or something. Or > maybe not. But anyway, where are the files it's creating when I 'create > icon'? > > Dan > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage eap icons
On 17/04/07, jayan cabatuan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I dont know if this is the right place to ask this, but Ill ask anyway. > Is it possible to have animated eap icons for engage? > > If you run engage under the elive cd (I used the current development > version) the last icon (the "install enlightenment" or something similar > icon) is animated. How is this achieved? Better yet, is there a way to > decompile eap icons so I can take a look at the code myself? Thanks They're done in edje files. You can find some on http://www3.get-e.org/Resources/Animated_Icons/ and there are probably some tools around for setting them up. I played around with it, but that was a long time ago now. Right now e17 seems to be going through a shift to the freedesktop icon standards though, so it will mean having to do everything with apps and icons differently once they're finished. I'd wait till then to have a look at it - they seem to be right in the middle of it all atm. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] gnomish e17
Just add the various demons you want from gnome that run in the background before you call enlightenment in your script. e.g. to ensure gnome themes are remembered, you can use this in your enlightenment session/desktop/xinitrc script to fire things up. /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon & /usr/local/bin/enlightenment On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:53:33 +0900, Alan Trick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: First of all, I want to say that I love enlightenment and am very happy with it's improvements and such. However, there's still a lot of programs from gnome and such that I still find I really want to use, like nautilus (I can't wait till evidence becomes more usable), file roller and other miscellania. The problem is that when they are loaded in e17, they don't load all the gnome theme stuff with them. This is quite anoying in nautilus because almost all my icons look the same, and it's difficult to tell what's what. I found out that running gnome-theme-manager will do this, but it's a pain to have to run that whenever I restart e17. Also There's a couple things it doesn't do (at least not for my theme), in nautilus, the Computer icon and several things in the Go menu show up as missing icons. Is there a way to run like half a gnome-session or something to do this? Also it doesn't load my gtk theme by default either. I'm still new to linux so I might be doing something wrong :| Thanks, Alan Trick --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Re: [E-users/devel] Java apps and window problems
Indeed - grabbed java's source code and had a look. Very patchy! Did some more testing - upgraded to the latest cvs e17 on both my 32 and 64 bit systems and grabbed the 32 and 64 bit blackdown-java ports of jdk-1.4.2.02 for each system respectively. Java apps on the 32 bit system work fine in both e17 and gnome, but on the 64 bit system they fail as desribed below in e17, but work ok in gnome. Maybe something's up with blackdowns 64 bit compile - is anyone else successfully running java apps and e17 on a 64 bit system? Cheers, Daniel Stonier. On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:19:31 +0900, Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: java problem. reat awt_wm.c in java's source and find out. java's x "compatibility" layer is pretty nasty and is not good at making correct and sane "hacks" around x, icccm and netwm - again - read the source code in java. (things like ASSUMING single reparenting unless it specially detects a cetrain wm, lots of code to try detect wm's and then work differently in every wm makes it a bitch to track what java is doing. it's just bad style in design doing what they have done). Problem: Java apps upon starting are automatically collapsed (only the title bar showing). I can resize the window but it leaves just a blank grey template which isn't drawn on. Other than that, the apps seem to be working - they open up the correct number of windows when there are multiple windows and one of them opens up a dialog when you hit the kill button on the top right corner. This happens in E17, but not in Gnome. System: Pentium D 64 Bit (EMT64) OS: Gentoo 64 Bit WM: E17 Java: Blackdown JRE or JDK 1.4.2, Sun 64 Bit JRE or IBM JDK 1.5.0 Java Apps: Any. Running "javaws" will do (javaws usually brings up a selection of apps you can try and run). (Happens with all the above javas) Have I java problems (perhaps some variables not being set correctly that gnome perchance does?) or is it a WM problem? Do any of you know where I could start looking for info to nut this one out or need some info that might help shed some light on it? Kind regards, Daniel Stonier --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Switching To Enlightenment
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:28:39 +0900, David P. Donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I originally used Enlightenment back in school (approximately 5 years ago) and was always happy with it. But, as I used Linux more and more at home (Slackware mostly, now running Slackware 10.0 on most machines), I generally stuck with KDE. Recently, however, I've been meaning to go back to Enlightenment (especially anticipating what looks like a fantastic product in DR17). First and foremost, how will this affect certain applications that were built specifically with KDE in mind (K3B, for example)? I'm pretty much a newbie when it comes to the various libraries in Linux, but is there anything special I'll need to do to accomodate WM-specific applications? As long as you have all the libraries (gtk,qt etc), all your gnome/kde applications will work. The desktop you actually use (gnome/kde/fluxbox/enlightenment) doesn't really affect the running of an application, just how it handles it on the display. Second, what solutions exist for VNC-style access to the local console display on Enlightenment? In KDE, I use krfb, which allows me to VNC to my local display instead of a new virtual display. Can something similar be accomplished in Enlightenment? My ideal functionality would be something akin to the single-user Terminal Server in WinXP Pro, in that I can connect to the display remotely _and_ it gets locked locally (currently, with krfb, prying eyes can sit in front of my console and watch everything I do, if they were so inclined). Sounds like xvnc. http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ Finally, can anyone point me to some specific resources for configuring/tweaking/getting the most out of Enlightenment? Tips and tricks, that sort of thing. I'm finding a lot via Google, but if anyone has any specific suggestions I'd love to hear them. I'm especially interested in useful applications and add-ons, such as Engage. http://get-e.org/ has alot of documentation. Any help/advice you can offer would be much appreciated, thank you. Cheers, Daniel Stonier --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Eclair and Emotion
Hi all, I just redownloaded e17 from cvs and put it together on my new laptop (gentoo). The only hitch I've had is to do with the sound coming from eclair and emotion_test. I'm using intel's new high definition audio (as opposed to it's old AC '97 equipment) with the azalia drivers and alsa 1.0.8. Sound works great in everything but eclair and emotion - in these it is very crackly. After some experimenting with Xine I've found the sound using the xine libs is only crackly when it's using the old oss sound system. If using alsa or being run through with the oss emulation wrapper, aoss, it's fine. So I expect the emotion libs are by default using xine with oss rather than alsa. Anybody know of a way of configuring/compiling emotion to tell it to use alsa rather than oss directly? Cheers, Snorri --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E17 Keybindings
Excellent, exactly what I was initially looking for! Thanks for the info Raster. Cheers, Daniel. On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:20:10 +0900, Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a way of defining these keys by enlightenment_remote without using keysymbols? i.e. via either keycodes or hexcodes for the keys? yes Keycode_123 for example will work IF your x has no keysyms for them. basically ecore_x handles this. if it gets a key event it translates it into a keysym string IF a keysym exists (from the keycode). IF the keysym doesnt it emulates a keysym with Keycode_number. same when it grabs keys. so you can use Keycode_89 or Keycode_120 or Keycode_7 or whatever it is. mind you this will then mean the settings are tired to THAT particular keyboard. you change keyboard or go to a different machine and they may screw up royally. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] E17 Keybindings
Thanks for the info. It didn't completely work for me though. The keys were trigging and mute worked, but due to limitations with the Intel HD audio driver atm, I can only adjust the PCM volume and whatever gnome is adjusting with volume up and volume down isn't that. Couldn't find anywhere which illuminated me as to what its actually using to drive the volume up and down. Gnome is fustrating - it's becoming less and less transparent as it tries to make things easier for the user. So I went back to X and finally figured out how XKBRules, Model and Layout worked. I made sure the xkb/symbols file it was looking up linked the appropriate buttons with the XF86Audio* symbols. That let me then make use of enlightenment_remote as usual for keybindings. enlightenment_remote any XF86AudioLowerVolume NONE 0 exec "amixer set PCM 6-" enlightenment_remote any XF86AudioRaiseVolume NONE 0 exec "amixer set PCM 6+" enlightenment_remote any XF86AudioMute NONE 0 exec "amixer set PCM toggle" Is there a way of defining these keys by enlightenment_remote without using keysymbols? i.e. via either keycodes or hexcodes for the keys? Cheers, Daniel. On Mon, 23 May 2005 18:44:20 -0600, emby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Daniel Stonier wrote: I suspect perhaps this is the same reason that I can't get xmodmap to committ and save keysymbol settings (for multimedia keys) inbetween the entrance login and the e17 startup. Currently the logs indicate they get set, but are lost by the time e17 has finished loading. yes, I had the same problem. Finally worked around it using gnome-control-center->keyboard shortcuts. It sets the multimedia keys as follows: Volume mute 0xa0 Volume down 0xae Volume up 0xb0 Play (or play/pause)0xa2 Stop playback 0xa4 Skip to previous0x90 Skip to next0x99 mb --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412&alloc_id=16344&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] entrance/e xmodmap
Have been trying to set up some multimedia keys with E17 and have them working, however can't get them going automatically in the boot/login process. I have entrance/e17 cvs'd on a gentoo system. - Have set up the keys with appropriate actions in e17 using enlightenment_remote -binding-key-add on the keysyms XF86LowerVolume, XF86RaiseVolume and XF86AudioMute. - I can then manually run "xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap" which sets up keycode->keysyms relationships for the three buttons representing XF86Audio*. - Finally I manually run "enlightenment_remote -restart". At this stage its working. To get it working during the e17 login, I've tried a few things 1) Adding a line to my Session script for Entrance #!/bin/bash exec xmodmap /home/snorri/.Xmodmap > /home/snorri/xmod.log & exec /usr/bin/enlightenment This fails - the log file says it has set up the keysyms, but once inside e17 all settings are forgotten (xmodmap -pk shows nothing had been done for the multimedia keys) 2) Running the xmodmap command as a startup eapp in ~/.e/e/applications/startup Can't seem to get this working as an eapp based strictly on a non-gui script, but can get it to activate if running as a command (bash script) that has been passed to an eapp for a terminal (like gnome-terminal, Eterm). Once e17 has finished setting up, the log file says everything's been done, "xmodmap -pk" lists the keycodes as having been set up correctly, but e17 fails to bind the XF86Audio* keys unless I manually do an "enlightenment_remote -restart". I've also tried adding the restart to the bash script without success, though attempts in that direction start seeming like a really ugly hack :) So, has anybody else tried this? Is it a problem with e17, entrance...or me(!) perhaps? Think I might set up gdm and see if that works which will rule out one of the possibilities...but will have to leave that for the weekend. Cheers, Daniel. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412&alloc_id=16344&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Fwd: Eclair/Emotion
Yep, apologies for the post...just headed down that road and found a few things. Was a bit baffled at the time of posting though. I'd already anticipated the reasons you had with oss as default, just wasn't sure if it was configurable for alsa. SDL was also causing me the same problems so after sorting out where the problems were coming from for this I figured re-emerging without the oss and arts 'use' flags might help and it worked brilliantly. I then tracked down the points in the emotion code which were necessary - will have a bash at recompiling tonight :) Thanks for the info. Cheers, Daniel. On Mon, 23 May 2005 14:54:45 +0900, Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2005 13:18:42 +0900 "Daniel Stonier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: Hi all, I just redownloaded e17 from cvs and put it together on my new laptop (gentoo). The only hitch I've had is to do with the sound coming from eclair and emotion_test. I'm using intel's new high definition audio (as opposed to it's old AC '97 equipment) with the azalia drivers and alsa 1.0.8. Sound works great in everything but eclair and emotion - in these it is very crackly. After some experimenting with Xine I've found the sound using the xine libs is only crackly when it's using the old oss sound system. If using alsa or being run through with the oss emulation wrapper, aoss, it's fine. So I expect the emotion libs are by default using xine with oss rather than alsa. yes. it should because a lot of systems do NOT have alsa. there is no auto-detect there to use alsa if present otherwise fallback to oss so it should be on oss by default. Anybody know of a way of configuring/compiling emotion to tell it to use alsa rather than oss directly? grep the code for alsa :) u'll find the line :) Cheers, Daniel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412&alloc_id=16344&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412&alloc_id=16344&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Fwd: Eclair/Emotion
Hi all, I just redownloaded e17 from cvs and put it together on my new laptop (gentoo). The only hitch I've had is to do with the sound coming from eclair and emotion_test. I'm using intel's new high definition audio (as opposed to it's old AC '97 equipment) with the azalia drivers and alsa 1.0.8. Sound works great in everything but eclair and emotion - in these it is very crackly. After some experimenting with Xine I've found the sound using the xine libs is only crackly when it's using the old oss sound system. If using alsa or being run through with the oss emulation wrapper, aoss, it's fine. So I expect the emotion libs are by default using xine with oss rather than alsa. Anybody know of a way of configuring/compiling emotion to tell it to use alsa rather than oss directly? Cheers, Daniel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412&alloc_id=16344&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Entrance on FC3
Just been messing around with Fedora 3 and Entrance. Can anyone here confirm they've got it up and going from cvs? I've got Entrance running as the preferred display manager without a hitch, but it fails at authentification for some reason. Cheers, Daniel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI. Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. Free runtime info, new features, or free trial, at: http://www.businessobjects.com/devxi/728 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Entrance and permissions on the audio device
Hi all, I've just compiled and configured entrance to act as the dm on my box. The only adjustments I had to make was to add a couple of options inside the Xsession script to boot up e16 and e17. Everything starts up fine except that access to the audio device for the user that has just logged in is denied. The same symptom occurs in Gnome with oss. I can however switch to the root user from inside an eterm and access the audio device normally from there. This isn't a problem when starting with gdm. Has anyone else run across this or know how to tackle it? Not really sure where to start looking for this one and googling has been like finding needles in the haystack. Cheers, Daniel Stonier. --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Installing Eterm
Did you try running 'ldconfig' after installing the libraries? Cheers, Daniel. On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:23:48 + (GMT), Graham Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi im trying to install Eterm on my Suse 9.1 x86, machine running Enlightenment. I ran configure and it moan that I didnt have libast installed. I installed libast but configure still moans about a function called libast_malloc. Can anyone help with this problem Thanks Graham ___ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: InterSystems CACHE FREE OODBMS DOWNLOAD - A multidimensional database that combines robust object and relational technologies, making it a perfect match for Java, C++,COM, XML, ODBC and JDBC. www.intersystems.com/match8 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: InterSystems CACHE FREE OODBMS DOWNLOAD - A multidimensional database that combines robust object and relational technologies, making it a perfect match for Java, C++,COM, XML, ODBC and JDBC. www.intersystems.com/match8 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
Woohoo! Managed to get two differently configured desktops running (with the same user) using multihead in XF86Config without xinerama (the configuration Peter had posted). The nice thing about this is that it lets you configure two differently sized monitors. I've got one 19" CRT with 1600x1200 resolution and the other a 1280x1024 DFP. Here's the plan. - Firstly, there's a command line option you can pass to e which doesn't show up on 'enlightenment --help'. Starting e with enlightenment -single prevents it from opening slave desktops on multiple screens for the same x display (ie doesn't create the second desktop on :0.1). In effect, this gives you the same behaviour as starting an xterm session that I was looking for earlier. - I did a straight copy of my .enlightenment directory to .enlightenment-secondary for the second configuration. Note if you have lots of backgrounds/themes stored in here you might want to store them somewhere else and just symlink to it from both config directories. - I'm running gdm with a session file that looks at .Xclients for configuration. My .Xclients file: exec gnome-settings-daemon & exec /usr/X11R6/bin/xscreensaver -no-splash -display :0 & exec /usr/bin/gdesklets & exec /usr/bin/enlightenment -single -display :0.0 & exec /usr/bin/enlightenment -single -econfdir /home/snorri/.enlightenment-secondary -display :0.1 Hope this helps the adventurous :) Cheers, Daniel Stonier. On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:15:25 -0400, Derek Schaible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 08:22, Peter wrote: Geoffrey wrote: > Have you attempted to change the background on one and see if the other > remains? You're not using xinerama right? I know that when I was using > xinerama, it did keep the same on both monitors. > I thought I had answered that. YES, If I change a setting on one monitor, it sticks through the entire E session. Once I quit, E stores the last change and that is the setup for BOTH monitors on the next start. Yes, using xinerama is akin to using 1 monitor. Back on Aug. 4 of this year, I had posted this exact question under the thread of "Bugs with Dual Head?" After searching my archives, it appears that all of the responses were sent to me off list However, the answer to me at that time was the only way to achieve this (two configs for dual headed screens) was to run two sessions as two different users otherwise, both screens read the same configs resulting in the odd behavior noted in this thread (and by me as well :) Further digging at the nVidia message board for Linux users turned up a known bug in their drivers preventing nVidia users from launching two X-servers to different screens. This will be fixed in a future release. (I was using the Twinview features of the nVidia driver) I saw that someone concerned with this thread posted their xconfig file and it contained the nVidia driver. This bug will rear its head once you reach the conclusion that e will need to run as two users to use separate configuration. Unless the e developers have a way of specifying separate configs for separate screens. I was told back in August to not hold my breathe. Hope this helps!! -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:42:40 -0400, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Peter, Your settings are exactly what I've currently got in my XFree86Config. With one call to /usr/bin/enlightenment in my .xinitrc it actually goes ahead and spawns two instances of e (these show up on 'ps axu'), but both use the same configuration - which seems to be where our problem is. If we could call them separately like you can when starting xterm sessions from an xinitrc script, and somehow pass args to one of those instances pointing it to a separate configuration directory, we'd be right, but I'm not sure it's possible now. Dan. hmm...I had thought it would be an easy fiddle to create a second .enlightenment directory, then edit .xinitrc with something like /usr/bin/enlightenment -display :0.0 & /usr/bin/enlightenment -econfdir=.enlightenment-secondary -display :0.1 No, you do not want to do that. E recognizes two displays easily. and start her up with startx. But...it didn't work (it spawns four instances of e). Baffling. Now if I do the same thing but with xterm -display :0.0 & xterm -display :0.1 in .xinitrc it works as I expected. What is the mechanics behind this - are they deliberately intended to operate in a different fashion? And if it is supposed to spawn across the multiple screen numbers, is it possible to send each command unique arguments? Regards, Daniel Stonier. Dan, maybe I'm confused. Are you trying to span a desktop across monitors? Or, are you trying to keep them separate. Either way, E will still handle two monitors for you. Problem is saving things like themes. If you want to span, you will need to make mods to you XConfig file (or whatever yours is called) to enable xinerama or twinview or whatever your graphics card requires. If not, you need to set up two distinct displays. Here is a snip from my xorg.conf file. Note, each head on the card has its own device section. Later, each Screen will attach to a card. Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia" BoardName "GeForce 5200" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "DPMS" Option "NoLogo" "1" Screen 0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card1" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia" BoardName "GeForce 5200" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "DPMS" Option "NoLogo" "1" Screen 1 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" ... Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "Card1" Monitor"Monitor1" This is how I worked it. For xinerama or twinview, you would not do it this way. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
I do this, and it's terrific. Why drag things across monitors when they are different resolutions and quality (as in my case). I use monitor 0 for panel (kicker), email, and newsgroups, and compiling (1024x768) and monitor 1 for browsing, graphics, program testing, windows (boo hiss) at 1280x1024. My ONLY gripe is that E thinks the desktops are the same for both monitor heads, so my background and settings and themes are the same for each desktop on each monitor. Interestingly, I can change a theme on one monitor, but that will become the default for E next boot for both screens. hmm...I had thought it would be an easy fiddle to create a second .enlightenment directory, then edit .xinitrc with something like /usr/bin/enlightenment -display :0.0 & /usr/bin/enlightenment -econfdir=.enlightenment-secondary -display :0.1 and start her up with startx. But...it didn't work (it spawns four instances of e). Baffling. Now if I do the same thing but with xterm -display :0.0 & xterm -display :0.1 in .xinitrc it works as I expected. What is the mechanics behind this - are they deliberately intended to operate in a different fashion? And if it is supposed to spawn across the multiple screen numbers, is it possible to send each command unique arguments? Regards, Daniel Stonier. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
I just picked up a second monitor and was curious as to what X arrangements others are using with e in the same situation - do you use twinview/xinerama? Are there other options? Is it possible to get both monitors viewing the same enlightenment desktop simultaneously but moving around independantly? dont use xinerama. use plain old fashioned multihead then (caveat - u cant drag windows between screens or stretch them across screens) Excellent! Tried both nvidia's twinview which was rather like a gl accelerated xinerama and also got this going with xinerama not enabled. GL acceleration seems to work in both and you dont have damn annoying dialog popups in the middle of the screen. Didn't realise you could do this without xinerama. Apparently there's also a program called xmove which can help transport windows between the different screen numbers if you really wish to. Haven't tried it yet though. Now just a matter of getting the two desktops to point to different e configurations :) Cheers, Daniel Stonier. -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Multiple Monitors
I just picked up a second monitor and was curious as to what X arrangements others are using with e in the same situation - do you use twinview/xinerama? Are there other options? Is it possible to get both monitors viewing the same enlightenment desktop simultaneously but moving around independantly? Cheers, Daniel Stonier. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Fwd: Re: [e-users] 3ddesktop
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:59:19 +0200, Kim Woelders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Daniel Stonier wrote: Hmm Just tried running it on my router machine and it echoed the moan that yours emitted. I think it may be due to different builds of e. This experienced expert has only head his head wrapped in this and e's window management code for all of about 5 hours so maybe one of the devs can point me out if I'm my arguments are completely bunk :) So, a quick guess: My working build is probably due to the fact I built e16 yesterday with --enable-hints-ewmh and --enable-hints-gnome. Now I think ewmh are enabled by default so its probably the latter. Especially since the guy who wrote 3ddesktop seems to be guessing e's system works like the older gnome jazz and so all configuration options default to that (he doesn't really use anything e-specific). The actual elements causing the problem are the WIN_AREA and WIN_AREA_COUNT Xatoms. So I guess if you want to get it going for now you'll need to go to the effort of custom building your e. It would be pretty damn snazzy to get this going seamlessly with both workspaces and desktops, but the more I look at it the more bugs I find! So I expect I'll have to drop this till the Jacaranda's stop flowering and exams are finished. I had it running a while back, but now I get: $ 3ddeskd ... 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible! 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration. Exiting. This is with xorg 6.8.1, composite enabled, nvidia drivers. Any hints are welcome. Anyway, if you go on digging into this you should disable the old gnome hints so they don't confuse things, and 3ddesktop should only use the ewmh hints. I doubt there are problems in E's viewport/desktop hint handling as it plays perfectly well together with e.g. the gnome-panel pager. /Kim Haven't upgraded to xorg yet - too busy with study and its waiting till post exams as well so I'm afraid I can't help you there. Unless the file that replaces XF86Config has a typo or needs extra editing. I know on XFree86 it gives you GLX errors if you install the nvidia jazz but forget or typo when updating the XF86Config to tell it to use the nvidia driver correctly. Do your glx xscreensavers work? E's ewmh handling looks fine - I ran some test code I quickly did up to check a few of the hints as well as some playing around with xprop and it looked ok. It's Brad's 3ddesktop setup that is a bit short. His ewmh setup only looks for e's 'multiple desktops' - this is all thats needed in gnome or kde. To get around our virtual desktops he was using the old gnome configuration. So rather than fixing that I should probably look at extending the ewmh code to do the virtual desktops. But this will take some more time than the 5 or 6 hours I spent toying with it last night :) Interesting how catering for everyone tends to make code absolutely bewildering. So much so I think it might be easier starting from scratch, (build it up using evas perhaps?) and just borrow ideas from his for implementation concepts. Cheers, Daniel. -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] 3ddesktop
Hmm Just tried running it on my router machine and it echoed the moan that yours emitted. I think it may be due to different builds of e. This experienced expert has only head his head wrapped in this and e's window management code for all of about 5 hours so maybe one of the devs can point me out if I'm my arguments are completely bunk :) So, a quick guess: My working build is probably due to the fact I built e16 yesterday with --enable-hints-ewmh and --enable-hints-gnome. Now I think ewmh are enabled by default so its probably the latter. Especially since the guy who wrote 3ddesktop seems to be guessing e's system works like the older gnome jazz and so all configuration options default to that (he doesn't really use anything e-specific). The actual elements causing the problem are the WIN_AREA and WIN_AREA_COUNT Xatoms. So I guess if you want to get it going for now you'll need to go to the effort of custom building your e. It would be pretty damn snazzy to get this going seamlessly with both workspaces and desktops, but the more I look at it the more bugs I find! So I expect I'll have to drop this till the Jacaranda's stop flowering and exams are finished. Cheers, Daniel Stonier. On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:50:50 +0200, phriedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:08:14 +1000 "Daniel Stonier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Exactly what didn't work? And were you trying via rpm or source? [...] Sorry, forget to insert the error-message: "Could not find more then one virtual desktop! Daemon started. Run 3ddesk to activate." In fact I have four virtual desktops and only one multiple. Regards, Friedrich -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] 3ddesktop
For those who are using it with e and would like to get it to work on 'virtual desktops' rather than the 'multiple desktops' I managed to figure out what was causing the problems. http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/3d/3ddesktop-0.2.7.tar.gz http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/3d/3ddesktop-0.2.7-1.i386.rpm I haven't automated it on my machine yet - you probably just want to start the daemon in your .XClients file or some such. Then set some keybindings. Getting it to pre-acquire images is another issue. To test it, just start the daemon on the command line with: For moving between 'virtual desktops' use 3ddeskd --wm=enlightenment For moving between 'multiple desktops' use (default is --wm=ewmh) 3ddeskd Then running '3ddesk' will jump you into a carousel view of your desktops. Be interesting to compile two different daemons, one to handle virtuals and the other multiples so they can be run side by side - but even better would be an extension to work with e as a special effect like the sliding :) This monkey has to stop playing and start studying though! Cheers, Daniel. -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Transparent gnome-terminal backgrounds with multiple desktops
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:41:17 -0400, Robt. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 02:00:03PM -0400, Smoke wrote: On Sunday, Oct 10, 2004 at 18:51, Kim Woelders wrote: > GNOME doesn't handle virtual root windows (2., 3., ... desktop) properly. > E 0.16.7 has a feature that makes things seem to work, try: > $ eesh -e "hints xroot root" Well, that solved my problem :) I'm not using gnome, though, just e. How come e doesn't do this by default? Oh, and will i have to run this from my .xinitrc, or will e remember this setting? I'm apparently not using 16.7. I downloaded and installed 16.7.1 and I still can't do the eesh -e "hints xroot root" - how can I verify that I'm actually using 16.7.1? On the command line, enlightenment -V -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Fwd: Re: [e-users] Transparent gnome-terminal backgrounds with multiple desktops
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:00:03 -0400, Smoke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday, Oct 10, 2004 at 18:51, Kim Woelders wrote: GNOME doesn't handle virtual root windows (2., 3., ... desktop) properly. E 0.16.7 has a feature that makes things seem to work, try: $ eesh -e "hints xroot root" Well, that solved my problem :) I'm not using gnome, though, just e. How come e doesn't do this by default? Oh, and will i have to run this from my .xinitrc, or will e remember this setting? Maybe because its new. There were still some problems on my machine. I have two "multiple desktops" - labelled 1, 2 here for convenience and am using transparent backgrounds on Eterm and gdesklets. With the root hints mentioned above, both picked up the proper backgrounds upon switching to a different desktop - great! But Enlightenment (0.16.7.1-1) gdesklets: Failed to persist on either desktop. Eterm (0.9.2-4): Failed to persist on desktop 1. i.e. failing to persist equates to the background dropping back to a blank background (pale blue for gdesklets and black for Eterm) after about 20 seconds. After failing if you switched desktops and came back again it would redraw with the background but then fail to persist after another 20 seconds. Hope this helps, Daniel. -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] 3ddesktop and E
Aye, its one of those totally frivoulously cool things that seem to take an insidious delight in taking up one's spare time :) The multiple desktops worked fine for me too - trying to see if it plays nicely with the virtual desktops though. They sort of work - it lines them up ok, but has a problem jumping to the correct desktop after its first jump. Doesn't happen though if you use a different mode at each step. e.g. 3ddeskd --wm=enlightenment & 3ddesk --gotoright <-- works fine 3ddesk --gotoleft <-- graphics works fine, but doesn't return you to your original desktop 3ddesk --stop If you use a "3ddesk --gotoleft --mode=" instead - it works. So might be possible to find where its going wrong by checking out where the code goes in each instance and cross-checking it with the ewmh specs. Time to play I guess. Would be nice to get it working in combo with virtual and multiple desktops at once too - this sort of thing would be great as an fx effect for desktop sliding in e17 when they start working on the desktop. Daniel. On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 14:09:34 -0400, Mike Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 01:57:51 +1000, Daniel Stonier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone here use 3ddesktop with their E setup? And if so is it working as it should? Cheers, Daniel Stonier. I use and it works fine, it only switches if you have multiple desktops, doesnt do anything if you only have 1 desktop with virtual desktops. I installed it and mapped it to ALT+TAB. Its great =) Mike -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] 3ddesktop and E
Does anyone here use 3ddesktop with their E setup? And if so is it working as it should? Cheers, Daniel Stonier. -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] GTK themes & Fedora 2
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:58:34 -0400, Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone been able to change their GTK2 theme while using E & and Fedora 2? I can't get switch2 to work at all in Fedora 2. Is there another way? Any help will be greatly appreciated, Justin On FC1. I run gnome-theme-manager from an eterm window. Set the theme. However that will only adjust it for this session - must be something to do with not having all the bits and pieces of the gnome environment running. Next time you log in it will revert back to the default one. So to get around it I need to digress into how I boot up e: To boot into e from the display manager I created an enlightenment.desktop (in /etc/X11/dm/Sessions) file which gets X to start up with the configuration defined in my .Xclients. In there I have exec gnome-settings-daemon --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon --oaf-ior-fd=24 & exec /usr/X11R6/bin/xscreensaver -no-splash -display :0 & exec /usr/bin/enlightenment Course - its the first line thats important. Terribly ugly hack I know, but it was a wild guess at the time and it worked :) Hopefully it'll point you in the right direction of getting something working if nobody has a better solution. I found it by just checking out what processes were running when logging into gnome and then trying them out in the e-session. Cheers, Daniel. -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] older epplets
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 07:28:17 +0200, Martin Skjöldebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've removed it from both .snapshots.0 and .clients. But it's still there.And restarted Enlightenment. Try closing E, editing the files, then restarting E. I think E might write over your changes if you do it inside E (not 100% on that, but doing it outside E usually worked for me). Cheers, Daniel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] older epplets
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 05:40:41 +0200, Martin Skjöldebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How do I get rid of older epplets from the desktop at startup? It doesn't have a "close button", and I haven't found it in any startup file (probably because I've look in the wrong places). Help? /M. Alt-rightclicking on them should bring up the usual window management (you probably want the remember option) options. ~/.enlightenment/...e_session_XX.snapshots.0 is the file that usually holds all the startup and placement stuff. Is this what you're after? Cheers, Daniel. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Re: [E-devel] xplanet and dr16
Doesn't xplanet by default (no arguments) run on the root window? Im using 16.6 still, but works as expected on this. Regards, Daniel. On Mon, 24 May 2004 13:31:57 +0200, Alan Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I'd like to use xplanet to draw the background of my desktops. I've tried several options from xplanet (-vroot for instance), I've tried setting no image as background, but it did not work. I looked at the FAQ, and search this mailing list archive for xplanet, to no avail. So could you please tell me how to use xplanet with e16 (I'm using 0.16.7, from May 12th cvs). Thanks, Alan Schmitt -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Eterm blues . . .
Eterm... ./configure -without-sense-of-humor God I got a good laugh out of this, specially when I went back and found Kenny got whacked when you didn't enable this. Was having a gloomy day so it brightened it right up :) As for this, I have no problems compiling the source on FC1 - are you sure you have libast and imlib2 installed? As well as maybe the imlib2 devel package? Cheers, Daniel. On Tue, 11 May 2004 00:11:23 -0400, Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying to get Eterm installed on fedora 1 through the source. And it spit this at me: /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -g -O2 -c -o mmx_cmod.lo `test -f 'mmx_cmod.S' || echo './'`mmx_cmod.S gcc -g -O2 -c mmx_cmod.S -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/mmx_cmod.o mmx_cmod.S:24:20: config.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [mmx_cmod.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/elshadii/eterm/Eterm-0.9.2/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/elshadii/eterm/Eterm-0.9.2' make: *** [all] Error 2 I would really appreciate some help. Justin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson & Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson & Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] "Run" box in E16
Hi Didier, Check out the e- first. They open the eterm window which then calls the script that does all the work. I link the e-scripts to my /usr/local/bin folder and keybind them in e. I have attached two scripts, one mirroring (does my backups to a network drive) script and the alarm script. Check out the mirroring one first - it's simpler so easier to follow initially, but doesn't do the input reads like the alarm one does, which is what you're after. Luck :) Daniel. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:50:41 +0800 (SGT), Didier Casse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 22/04/04, at 13:42 +1000, Daniel Stonier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I currently do something similar with Eterm and bash scripts that could be adapted to a generic 'run'. My scripts pop up an Eterm in the middle of the desktop, asks the user for Alarm clock time settings, resets cron (I use it to start an oggy play of Rammstein at the specified time), then closes itself automatically. It's also keyed into a keyboard shortcut via keybindings.cfg. You could probably do something similar by asking for a command, run the command in the background and then have it close itself automatically. Can pass on a couple of examples if you like. If you have some scripts at hand, it would be instructive to have a look. Yeah I like it! Thanks. With kind regards, Didier. --- PhD student. Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS) 5 Research Link, Singapore 117603 Email: didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg Web: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ scripts.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
Re: [e-users] "Run" box in E16
I currently do something similar with Eterm and bash scripts that could be adapted to a generic 'run'. My scripts pop up an Eterm in the middle of the desktop, asks the user for Alarm clock time settings, resets cron (I use it to start an oggy play of Rammstein at the specified time), then closes itself automatically. It's also keyed into a keyboard shortcut via keybindings.cfg. You could probably do something similar by asking for a command, run the command in the background and then have it close itself automatically. Can pass on a couple of examples if you like. Cheers, Daniel. On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:04:18 +0800 (SGT), Didier Casse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I've been wondering whether there's a "Run" box which exists in E16. i.e first some kind of shortcut key that you could press which should pop-out a run box. Then in this run box, you could type let's say "xine" and Xine would just load. Closest to it in E is the E-exec epplet, but the E-exec epplet is here permanently. I would like to have something which pops up out of a shortcut key and that is not around in the first place. :-p I know it exists in WMs like windowmaker, GNOME or KDE. Thanks for any insights provided... With kind regards, Didier. --- PhD student. Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS) 5 Research Link, Singapore 117603 Email: didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg Web: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Ecore_Evas - screenshot grabbing
Found some info on the system(), fork(), exec() and wait() functions which made a bit of sense and made it apparent it had nothing to do with ecore/evas at all. The whole schebang works smoothly now...at least until I figure out a new way to break things :) Thanks anyway, Daniel Stonier. On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 01:15:18 +1000, Daniel Stonier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ran into another problem today - think I need to understand a little more about how Ecore_Evas does its window handling. I'm trying to incorporate a screenshot grabber into the program, ultimately to save time as it didn't look hard to implement but I think I've now spent more time on this than I may have saved with the convenience! But now it's a problem, and it's too hard to let go without beating it mercilessly into the void. I looked up E-Screenshot's code and implemented something similar - just a system(...) call which runs "import" to grab a window. I'm running this as a callback event tied into an evas object which acts as a button. Now if I supply a window name to a program external to the simulation (the program it was called from) it works fine, it raises the external window and captures it no problem. Capturing one of the simulation's windows however, raises the window frame just before capture, but does not redraw its contents, so you get an image of the window overlapped with windows lying across it. If I run the simulation and then start another c program which capture's the simulation's windows in exactly the same way, it raises them and grabs the image without the above problem - so the issue is in running the system call inside the same program. So When a window is raised in ecore_evas, when exactly does its contents get redrawn? I think what might be happening is that the simulation effectively stops and waits while the system call to import is run - when import raises the window for a screenshot, the simulation does not respond and redraw the contents, because its too busy waiting for the system call to finish. Would this be correct, and if so is there any way to let it loose in the background? Kinda new to understanding forked processes and not really sure where to go looking for some useful info so any help would be great. Cheers, Daniel. -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Ecore_Evas - screenshot grabbing
Ran into another problem today - think I need to understand a little more about how Ecore_Evas does its window handling. I'm trying to incorporate a screenshot grabber into the program, ultimately to save time as it didn't look hard to implement but I think I've now spent more time on this than I may have saved with the convenience! But now it's a problem, and it's too hard to let go without beating it mercilessly into the void. I looked up E-Screenshot's code and implemented something similar - just a system(...) call which runs "import" to grab a window. I'm running this as a callback event tied into an evas object which acts as a button. Now if I supply a window name to a program external to the simulation (the program it was called from) it works fine, it raises the external window and captures it no problem. Capturing one of the simulation's windows however, raises the window frame just before capture, but does not redraw its contents, so you get an image of the window overlapped with windows lying across it. If I run the simulation and then start another c program which capture's the simulation's windows in exactly the same way, it raises them and grabs the image without the above problem - so the issue is in running the system call inside the same program. So When a window is raised in ecore_evas, when exactly does its contents get redrawn? I think what might be happening is that the simulation effectively stops and waits while the system call to import is run - when import raises the window for a screenshot, the simulation does not respond and redraw the contents, because its too busy waiting for the system call to finish. Would this be correct, and if so is there any way to let it loose in the background? Kinda new to understanding forked processes and not really sure where to go looking for some useful info so any help would be great. Cheers, Daniel. -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Ecore_Evas
Is there an easier way to tackle this thing? ie while ((o = evas_object_bottom_get(evas)) evas_object_del(o); will completely clear all objects in a canvas and empty it out completely. So obvious :) And exactly what I was looking for - thanks. Daniel Stonier. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Ecore_Evas
I've run into a small problem using ecore_evas and not entirely sure of the best approach to take on it. I dont know how many of you are actively using it, but here's to hoping at least one or two of you are :) Problem: Need to refresh (return it to its original state after creating and moving many evas objects around on it) the window. Old solution: The original program was using the X libraries for window creation and event handling, so to refresh the window, I simply free'd the evas I was painting on, created a new evas for the window and ran the initial setup routine (add background/borders/title etc). No problem here. Since then I've altered it so window creation and event handling is done by ecore_evas. Now I've noticed that initialising an ecore_evas window creates both window and evas at the same time - you only get one evas for the window and when you free that evas, you can't easily manufacture another evas (note that ecore_evas_get only gets you the evas wrapped by the ecore_evas object. Once you've free'd that, there's no longer anything to get). Is there an easier way to tackle this thing? Cheers, Daniel. -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] weird behavior of Eterm when reading man pages
> On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 19:34, Didier Casse wrote: > > Hi there, > > I just noticed that when I use Eterm to read man pages: e.g man > > perl. I get some funny characters in the man pages. But when I use xterm > > to view the man pages... wel I get the normal English characters. Anybody > > have a clue of how to get rid of these annoying characters? > > Using a RedHat machine? > > The problem is with the LANG environment variable. > > RH (and probably other distros) are doint UTF (8 I think) as their > default language setting. Eterm doesn't like it at all. > > I stuck the following at the bottom of my .bashrc: > > LANG=en_US.iso885915 > export LANG > > Fixed it right up. Good solution :), I was editing the /etc/sysconfig/i18n file directly to do the same thing, but this is easier. Regards, Daniel. > > -Andy- > > > > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best > thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features > you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
