Re: [e-users] Anyone User the Drawer Module?

2011-04-20 Thread Karl Sinn
  BTW this is the list of modules that don't compile here:
  drawer
  everything-skel
  exebuf
  xkbswitch
 
 everything-skel is probably only required if you are a dev and you want to
 write plugins for everything module. exebuf is obsoleted by everything
 module. xkbswitch is probably very new (I don't remember seeing or using it
 earlier).

Which means that I didn't do any mistake and that it's normal that they 
don't compile?

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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-20 Thread Karl Sinn
 Depend how you define it, but from my point of view, claws-mail also
 use to much ressource :
 0223d000-499c7000 rw-p  00:00 0 
 [heap] Size:1170984 kB

Sounds like there is a need of a mail-client which implements the ideals of 
E17.

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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-19 Thread Karl Sinn
 At least I see one reason, last time I tried evolution, kmail and
 thunderbird on my imap server, they took around 1GB of allocated
 memory. That was just insane, and they where dead slow at doing
 anything... Oh, and I have a computer I consider should never slow
 down for just displaying a text (yes, most of my mail are just text).

That's the reason why was asking: Until now I use Kmail. Since it comes with 
KDE4 it is slowing down with nearly every version and obliging to install more 
and more extra packages I simply don't need.

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Re: [e-users] Anyone User the Drawer Module?

2011-04-19 Thread Karl Sinn
  Now the process stops with a problem in the drawer module:
 From my previous experience, even if you get drawer module to build, it
 will ultimate make e go segv every once in a while. The only part of
 drawer module that used to work more or less decently was the app launcher
 part. We already have ibar, itask-ng for doing that. The more interesting
 part of drawer was the directory viewer part. That part couldn't even be
 activated without causing an immediate segv the last time I used it (4-5
 months ago, and a year ago, and ...). Moral: it is not very useful to try
 and get drawer to compile ;)

well.. yes, I just simply wondered because I was never able to compile it, and 
Jeff said he can.

BTW this is the list of modules that don't compile here:
drawer
everything-skel
exebuf
xkbswitch


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Re: [e-users] Anyone User the Drawer Module?

2011-04-18 Thread Karl Sinn
 you have to build libeweather from /PROTO first.

Done, works.
Is it possible to change that error message to something like libeweather 
from ./PROTO is missing?

Now the process stops with a problem in the drawer module:

make[4]: Entering directory `/home/karl/Dokumente/prog/E17/E-MODULES-EXTRA-
svn/drawer/src'
  CC e_mod_main.lo
e_mod_main.c:115: error: expected declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before 
‘Ethumb_Client’
e_mod_main.c:116: error: expected declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before 
‘Ethumb_Client’
e_mod_main.c:117: error: expected declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before 
‘Ethumb_Client’
e_mod_main.c: In function ‘_drawer_popup_show’:
e_mod_main.c:744: warning: passing argument 1 of ‘((struct Drawer_Composite 
*)inst-composite)-func.toggle_visibility’ from incompatible pointer type
e_mod_main.c:744: note: expected ‘struct Drawer_View *’ but argument is of 
type ‘struct Drawer_Composite *’
e_mod_main.c: In function ‘_drawer_popup_hide’:
e_mod_main.c:785: warning: passing argument 1 of ‘((struct Drawer_Composite 
*)inst-composite)-func.toggle_visibility’ from incompatible pointer type
e_mod_main.c:785: note: expected ‘struct Drawer_View *’ but argument is of 
type ‘struct Drawer_Composite *’
e_mod_main.c: In function ‘_drawer_thumb_process’:
e_mod_main.c:1527: error: ‘ethumb_client’ undeclared (first use in this 
function)
e_mod_main.c:1527: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
e_mod_main.c:1527: error: for each function it appears in.)
e_mod_main.c:1536: warning: passing argument 7 of ‘_drawer_thumb_generate_cb’ 
makes integer from pointer without a cast
e_mod_main.c:117: note: expected ‘Eina_Bool’ but argument is of type ‘void *’
e_mod_main.c:1536: error: too many arguments to function 
‘_drawer_thumb_generate_cb’
e_mod_main.c: At top level:
e_mod_main.c:1860: error: expected declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before 
‘Ethumb_Client’
e_mod_main.c: In function ‘_drawer_thumb_connect_cb’:
e_mod_main.c:1864: error: ‘ethumb_client’ undeclared (first use in this 
function)
e_mod_main.c:1868: error: ‘e’ undeclared (first use in this function)
e_mod_main.c: At top level:
e_mod_main.c:1874: error: expected declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before 
‘Ethumb_Client’
e_mod_main.c: In function ‘_drawer_thumb_die_cb’:
e_mod_main.c:1876: error: ‘ethumb_client’ undeclared (first use in this 
function)
e_mod_main.c: At top level:
e_mod_main.c:1881: error: expected declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before 
‘Ethumb_Client’
make[4]: *** [e_mod_main.lo] Fehler 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/karl/Dokumente/prog/E17/E-MODULES-EXTRA-
svn/drawer/src'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/karl/Dokumente/prog/E17/E-MODULES-EXTRA-
svn/drawer/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/karl/Dokumente/prog/E17/E-MODULES-EXTRA-
svn/drawer'
make[1]: *** [all] Fehler 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/karl/Dokumente/prog/E17/E-MODULES-EXTRA-
svn/drawer'
make: *** [all] Fehler 1



What am I missing here?

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[e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-18 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

is there a mail client written especially for E17?

Thanks
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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-18 Thread Karl Sinn
  It would be really great to have one :)
 
 It certainly would :) but I don't see it happening anytime soon. The
 webkit port of efl still needs lots of work :(


Is there a way to motivate all the E17 heros (programmers) to focus on this 
for some time? ;)

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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-18 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Montag, 18. April 2011, 22:26:19 schrieb Atton Jonathan:
 moneys ? :D

:D I was waiting for this answer

Karl


 
 2011/4/18 Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de
 
It would be really great to have one :)
   
   It certainly would :) but I don't see it happening anytime soon. The
   webkit port of efl still needs lots of work :(
  
  Is there a way to motivate all the E17 heros (programmers) to focus on
  this for some time? ;)
  
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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-18 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Montag, 18. April 2011, 22:26:25 schrieb Christopher Michael:
 On 04/18/2011 02:47 PM, Karl Sinn wrote:
  It would be really great to have one :)
  
  It certainly would :) but I don't see it happening anytime soon. The
  webkit port of efl still needs lots of work :(
  
  Is there a way to motivate all the E17 heros (programmers) to focus on
  this for some time? ;)
  
  Karl
 
 LOL :) Only thing I could think of would be a 'bounty' for getting it
 done ... but even then, it's more about the 'desire'  'time available' :)

Bounty? We talk about the ultimate coconut-chocolate-bar?

If so: Christopher there'll be a bounty on it's way to you when our common 
e17-dream-webclients release version 1.0 will be out *drums* *more drums*

Do you accept the mission? *drumsdrumsdrums*

:D
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Re: [e-users] Anyone User the Drawer Module?

2011-04-15 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Freitag, 15. April 2011, 15:43:05 schrieb Jeff Hoogland:
 Anyone out there use the drawer module? It's never built successfully for
 me in the last few months... I'll have to try rebuilding it again later on
 today from SVN, but I was just curious if anyone else had issues with it.

It never builded since I use e17. I don't even know yhat it's good for.

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Re: [e-users] Anyone User the Drawer Module?

2011-04-15 Thread Karl Sinn
Yes please.
How are you doing to build it?

Karl


Am Freitag, 15. April 2011, 16:46:37 schrieb Jeff Hoogland:
 Huh wonder what Karl and I are doing wrong. In the last 8 months it has
 never built for me. I'll post the error message in a few hours when I get
 home from work.
 
 ~Jeff Hoogland
 
 On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Viktor Kojouharov 
vkojouha...@gmail.comwrote:
  It builds fine here
  
  On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de wrote:
   Am Freitag, 15. April 2011, 15:43:05 schrieb Jeff Hoogland:
Anyone out there use the drawer module? It's never built successfully
  
  for
  
me in the last few months... I'll have to try rebuilding it again
later
   
   on
   
today from SVN, but I was just curious if anyone else had issues with
  
  it.
  
   It never builded since I use e17. I don't even know yhat it's good for.
   
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Re: [e-users] Anyone User the Drawer Module?

2011-04-15 Thread Karl Sinn
  eweather) were not met:

No package 'eweather' found

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively, you may set the environment variables E_CFLAGS
and E_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.

karl@dharma:~/Dokumente/prog/E17/E-MODULES-EXTRA-svn/eweather 



Where's my problem?

Thanks
Karl



 
 On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de wrote:
  Yes please.
  How are you doing to build it?
  
  Karl
  
  Am Freitag, 15. April 2011, 16:46:37 schrieb Jeff Hoogland:
   Huh wonder what Karl and I are doing wrong. In the last 8 months it has
   never built for me. I'll post the error message in a few hours when I
   get home from work.
   
   ~Jeff Hoogland
   
   On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Viktor Kojouharov
  
  vkojouha...@gmail.comwrote:
It builds fine here

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de wrote:
 Am Freitag, 15. April 2011, 15:43:05 schrieb Jeff Hoogland:
  Anyone out there use the drawer module? It's never built
  
  successfully
  
for

  me in the last few months... I'll have to try rebuilding it again
  later
 
 on
 
  today from SVN, but I was just curious if anyone else had issues
  
  with
  
it.

 It never builded since I use e17. I don't even know yhat it's good
  
  for.
  
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Re: [e-users] How to disable Desktop flipping

2011-02-25 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Freitag, 25. Februar 2011, 11:49:53 schrieb Harry:
 Hello World,
 
 Yet another setting I don't know how to rescue over from E16.999 to E17.
 I want to disable the Desktop flipping, that happens every time the cursor
 reaches the edge of the screen. That truly annoys me, but I don't know how
 to stop that in E17.
 

I can't give you the english names, here its in the setting panel, input, 
edges/sides

something like this
sorry for the bad translation

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Re: [e-users] ecore autogen is not working

2011-02-24 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Donnerstag, 24. Februar 2011, 09:18:06 schrieb Cedric BAIL:
 Hi,
 
 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Daniel Juyung Seo
 
 seojuyu...@gmail.com wrote:
  I got the same problem 5 hours ago with a clean checkout.
  Not only ecore but also other libraries.
  Anybody knows this issue?
 
 Yep, I removed to many lines, but what I don't understand is why after
 a make maintener-clean it doesn't break on my computer... Please
 report the name of other libs to.

I could compile everything yesterday evening besides the usual modules from E-
MODULES-EXTRA like:
drawer
eweather
everything-skel
exebuf

and I think one more.
Do you want me to run it again to check?

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[e-users] ecore autogen is not working

2011-02-24 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I'm just trying to compile ecore but autogen.sh has a problem:

Running aclocal..
...
Running automake...
configure.ac:65: required file './config.rpath' not found
[two more lines]

My problem?
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Re: [e-users] ecore autogen is not working

2011-02-24 Thread Karl Sinn
Hello,

Am Freitag, 25. Februar 2011, 02:12:12 schrieb Daniel Juyung Seo:
 Hello, Can you try with below sequence?
 
 $ svn update
 $ sudo make maintainer-clean
 $ sudo ./autogen.sh
 $ sudo make install

compiling worked yesterday in the afternoon again.

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Re: [e-users] settings of the weather module in iTask-NG newest version of E17

2011-02-23 Thread Karl Sinn
 Is the module still loaded? Check via Settings , Modules.
 
 
 Alternative route for Gadgets is Settings, Setting Panel, Extensions.

This I find it, but is can't configure the modules there...
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[e-users] ecore autogen is not working

2011-02-23 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I'm just trying to compile ecore but autogen.sh has a problem:

Running aclocal..
...
Running automake...
configure.ac:65: required file './config.rpath' not found
[two more lines]

My problem?
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[e-users] settings of the weather module in iTask-NG newest version of E17

2011-02-22 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

yesterday I updated my systems to the newest snv of E17.
Since then I can't change the settings of the weather module in iTask-NG any 
more. (just tried, I can't access the setting of any module in the iTask-NG)

How can I configure it through the console?

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Re: [e-users] settings of the weather module in iTask-NG newest version of E17

2011-02-22 Thread Karl Sinn
 What I can do is add the gadget to the desktop and configure it there.
 Maybe as a temporary workround?

How do you get it to the desktop?

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Re: [e-users] settings of the weather module in iTask-NG newest version of E17

2011-02-22 Thread Karl Sinn
 
 Settings, Gadgets, select gadget, Add Gadget, Apply.
 

I don't find it.
Which settings are you in?

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Re: [e-users] KDE icons not shown in iBar or apps menus

2011-02-03 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011, 17:59:30 schrieb Mick:
 Any idea why this is happening?  Firefox shows up fine, kmail or
 konqueror do not show up in the iBar.  If I minimise kmail I can see
 its icon fine in iBox, but not Konqueror's ...

Hi, I had the same problem.
If you go to the configuration and you change the icon set you will find one 
which shows all the icons...

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[e-users] rendering backend

2010-12-03 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I'm just compiling E17 again :) and I go through the logs. I saw that there 
are many rendering backends which are possible, but besides one they are all 
no.

Do I need additional stuff installed for the others?
Which one would be the best for me?

I use eeePC R101 with openSUSE 11.2

thanks
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[e-users] EDB in evas =???

2010-12-03 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

while compiling evas there is a message that EDB is not build.
what is EDB and where do I find it?

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Re: [e-users] rendering backend

2010-12-03 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Freitag, 3. Dezember 2010, 11:47:46 schrieb Cedric BAIL:
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de wrote:
  I'm just compiling E17 again :) and I go through the logs. I saw that
  there are many rendering backends which are possible, but besides one
  they are all no.
  
  Do I need additional stuff installed for the others?
  Which one would be the best for me?
  
  I use eeePC R101 with openSUSE 11.2
 
 With that hardware, only the software X11 one will be usefull. That
 all what you need.

so the others are all hardware dependent?

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Re: [e-users] rendering backend

2010-12-03 Thread Karl Sinn
  With that hardware, only the software X11 one will be usefull. That
  all what you need.
  
  so the others are all hardware dependent?
 
 Depends :-) Some are, like OpenGL, some are not like SDL or DirectFB.
 But if you don't know what it is and why you will need them, in that
 case they are not usefull.

In any way, while using one of them: can I make the computer faster?


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Re: [e-users] EDB in evas =???

2010-12-03 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Freitag, 3. Dezember 2010, 12:42:06 schrieb Cedric BAIL:
 On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de wrote:
  while compiling evas there is a message that EDB is not build.
  what is EDB and where do I find it?
 
 Some old beast that you don't need anymore.

:) ok, so I don't look for it anymore

btw: it would be nice to have a feature which tells you what great things 
could additionally be supported by E17  on your computer if you install the 
packages :)
right now I go through all the autogen outputs, to see. Many things are 
installed on the computer, just not the devel packages.

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Re: [e-users] rendering backend

2010-12-03 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Freitag, 3. Dezember 2010, 13:59:57 schrieb Cedric BAIL:
 On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de wrote:
   With that hardware, only the software X11 one will be usefull. That
   all what you need.
   
   so the others are all hardware dependent?
  
  Depends :-) Some are, like OpenGL, some are not like SDL or DirectFB.
  But if you don't know what it is and why you will need them, in that
  case they are not usefull.
  
  In any way, while using one of them: can I make the computer faster?
 
 As I say, for EEE hardware the fastest and more usable one is the
 software x11 backend. The GPU provided in EEE are really highly
 limited with poor driver (and will perform 10 times slower than
 software). I am using the software backend with an EEE 701, and it
 work perfectly fine. You have no alternativ way to be faster, but in
 my experience, it make my netbook more than usable. I can do
 everything I need on it.

thank you
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Re: [e-users] Auto-Logoff???

2010-11-03 Thread Karl Sinn
 hmm if a dbus daemon crash takes e down... this needs fixing :) but need to
 narrow down the issue first.

If i have it again, how can I check it's dbus?

Thanks
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Re: [e-users] Auto-Logoff???

2010-11-03 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Mittwoch, 3. November 2010, 09:47:42 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
 On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 09:46:57 +0100 Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de said:
   hmm if a dbus daemon crash takes e down... this needs fixing :) but
   need to narrow down the issue first.
  
  If i have it again, how can I check it's dbus?
 
 by catching the crash when it happens and finding out just what went on :)

:)
You'll have to give me more details about that one.
Can I simply check for something like dbusd process running, or is there some 
program that I can start to check it?

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Re: [e-users] Auto-Logoff???

2010-11-02 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 there is no such feature. i suspect either e crashed in a horrible way that
 it couldnt trap - maybe ran out of memory and oom killer killed it? or 
 maybe xserver died (driver issue?)? you'd have to catch it in the act to
 find out.

Maybe it's linked with another problem I have from time to time.
If this happens, then no KDE-Programm is working any more, google-chrome 
crashes after seconds and I can't switch to the console with CTRL-ALT-F1 any 
more. Other programs like java applications or skype still do there job.

How can I figure out where the problem is?

Thanks
Karl

 
  Hello,
  
  lately, when I go to my computer in the morning, my e17 session is ended.
  
  I couldn't find the settings for this behaviour.
  Is this a feature or do I have a problem with my installation?
  
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[e-users] Auto-Logoff???

2010-11-01 Thread Karl Sinn
Hello,

lately, when I go to my computer in the morning, my e17 session is ended.

I couldn't find the settings for this behaviour.
Is this a feature or do I have a problem with my installation?

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Re: [e-users] the shelf don't hide itself when ...

2010-10-28 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 i so feel like killing off systray again. :) fyi shelf autohide is full of
 holes and problems. it was not implemented solidly to begin with. i'm

don't kill it pleeaassee :)
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Re: [e-users] Works pretty good

2010-10-11 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 eina eet evas ecore embryo edje e_dbus efreet eeze e
 
 When I ran it it came up and told me there was a module missing:
 
 conf_exe/linux-gnu-i686-ver-pre-svn-07/module.so

I'm not sure if your module will be there, but try E-MODULES-EXTRA.

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Re: [e-users] enki

2010-10-06 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2010, 19:30:46 schrieb Texstar:
 Does anyone know if Enki has been fixed in svn? That is the only package
 left I'm having trouble compiling.

Hi,

did you manage to compile drawers and empris and news in E-MODULES-EXTRA?

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Re: [e-users] ANNOUNCE: BETA Release of core EFL

2010-10-03 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I try to compile the latest svn version but I have problem with evas.
something with: undefined reference to 'eina_sched_prio_drop'

I guess that this is because I compiled, eina, but I didn't install it yet.
I wanted to wait and see if I can compile everything before I start the 
installation.

Is there a way to do so?

Thanks
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Re: [e-users] ANNOUNCE: BETA Release of core EFL

2010-10-03 Thread Karl Sinn

 No. You have to install them. You can install them in a different prefix
 and try them out.


ok, thank you
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Re: [e-users] sleep and hibernate don't work SOLVED

2010-09-08 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

multiple installs? hmmm..

I had the rpm's for opensuse installed at the beginning, but I used rpm to 
uninstall ...

Anyway, I deleted everything, I recompiled and reinstalled.
And I found the explanations of pm-utils on the opensuse wiki.
I put the right commands to sysactions.conf and now it's working.

Concerning the prefixes: I never use them when I compile something.
If I make an update now: do I have to run make uninstall in every package 
before make install or is it fine to simply install?

Thanks a lot
Karl




Am Mittwoch, 8. September 2010, 00:38:50 schrieben Sie:
 On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:56:27 -0300 Wido wido...@gmail.com said:
 
 FIRST... nuke your multiple installations... and have 1 installed one only.
 having multiple means you will likely have no idea which is being used
 (basically if you are writing the email asking us which to edit - you don't
 have any idea which i s being used :)). so first delete your multiple efl+e
 etc. installations (rm -rf /opt/e17 maybe and make sure all future installs
 go into /usr/local - or vice/versa, tho /usr/local likely also has other
 things you compiled from src - unless the only thing u ever compiled from
 src is e +efl). once you have cleaned it all up - THEN edit the INSTALLED
 sysactions.conf (note that a re-build or install will overwrite the
 existing installed file so u may lose changes). file has comments as to
 how it works/is to be used.
 
  How many times did you recompile it? and where was the last prefix you
  used to compile/install it? Another thing you could use is an lsof
  agains the enlightenment process and look for the sysaction
  
  2010/9/7 Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de
  
   Hi,
   
your packager should fix sysactions.conf for you
(/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf)
   
   as I said, I compiled it myself.
   
   There is no file /etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf.
   
   This is what I found:
   /opt/e17/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf
   /usr/local/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf
   /root/e17_src/e/data/etc/sysactions.conf
   
   which one is the right one, and what should be written there?
   
   Thanks
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[e-users] sleep and hibernate don't work

2010-09-07 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

E17 on openSUSE 11.2:

I compiled E17 and the libraries myself.
When I try to send the computer to sleep or hibernate, nothing is happening.

What is the command the E17 is using to send the computer to sleep?
And where is this configured?

Thanks
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Re: [e-users] sleep and hibernate don't work

2010-09-07 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 your packager should fix sysactions.conf for you
 (/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf)

as I said, I compiled it myself.

There is no file /etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf.

This is what I found:
/opt/e17/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf
/usr/local/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf
/root/e17_src/e/data/etc/sysactions.conf

which one is the right one, and what should be written there?

Thanks
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Re: [e-users] Shelfs Autohide function is disabled after moving gadgets

2010-08-25 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

sorry for the PM, kmail somehow always sends answers from this list to private 
adresses instead of the list.

 i know i'm not paying attention to e17 bugs at all atm unless they affect
 efl 1.0.0 (ie bug is in efl). i've considered killing shelf autohide for
 various reasons in the past anyway.

Don't kill it, it's perfect, I wouldn't like to have them taking space on my 
little screen (netbook) all the time.
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Re: [e-users] System, no shutdown option

2010-08-17 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 I ran into this a while back.  I think I had to set the
 enlightenment_sys executable (probably /usr/bin/enlightenment_sys or
 /usr/local/bin/enlightenment_sys) to setuid root.

I set setuid root for:
/opt/e17/lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys
/usr/local/lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys


But there's no change, still I can't shut down the system...
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Re: [e-users] ALT-ESC and then run applications SOLVED

2010-08-17 Thread Karl Sinn
my account is activated, I deleted cookies and cache in both (firefox and 
google-chrome) I still can't  log in
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Re: [e-users] ALT-ESC and then run applications SOLVED

2010-08-16 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 You are missing exebuf module from extra modules or its not
 loaded/enabled in your configuration (Run command).

that's a funny thing...

I found the run command and loaded the module.
But then after changing the keybindings I still got the old one.
I had to go back to standard key bindings, save them and close the settings 
window, and then go back and configure ALT-ESC with run command but still I 
got the old one.

I tried a few more times and now it works.

I also observed that when I go to run command, and then add or change 
and then ALT-ESC on the left side it's never showing the ALT-ESC propperly. 
Should I make a bug report somewhere?

Thanks for the great help
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[e-users] Batterie charge is not shown

2010-08-16 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I have a few more problems I will start a separate thread for each of them.

I added the Batterie to a shelf, but it_s greyed out, it doesn't show me how 
much the batterie is charged.

What can I do?
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[e-users] System, no shutdown option

2010-08-16 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi again,

when I go to the menu=System I can only chose between lock log out and 
cancel.
halt and reboot are greyed out.

How do I get them back?

Thanks
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Re: [e-users] ALT-ESC and then run applications SOLVED

2010-08-16 Thread Karl Sinn
:-) wow...

Am Montag, 16. August 2010, 19:39:26 schrieben Sie:
  To clarify things:
 Add/Delete keybinding  buttons - operate only on left list, keybindings
 list (it ll just add key combo to list, but will not asign it to any
 action) Modify button operates on right list, action list.
 Delete all  - clears all asigns.

This makes it clear, it explains the behavior I didn't understand.

 I dont know what u meant with old one. Can u clarify that.
 'Exebuf' and 'Everything exebuf' are 2 different modules with same
 purpose. If u meant on that.

old was the Everything for me because I wanted to get Exebuf working.
I have it, problem solved.


 And if u mean ALT doesnt show properly, its possible, depending on your
 keyboard, i got 2 alts as everyone, but one on the right is AltGr(e17
 sees that key as iso_level3_shift), and with that alt I can type special
 characters, cos my keyboard got a couple language specific characters.

I can reproduce it always:
I select ALT+ESC in the left list
on the right side run command is automatically selected
now I push the modifie button and then ALT-ESC
and then in the left list the listentry for ALT-F11 is changed to ALT-ESC 
there are two enries for ALT-ESC in the left list after.

I never applied these changes so I can not tell you what happens if you do so.

Karl

 Hope i could help. Good luck :D


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Re: [e-users] Batterie charge is not shown

2010-08-16 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Montag, 16. August 2010, 20:56:46 schrieb Mick:
 On Monday 16 August 2010 14:53:16 Karl Sinn wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have a few more problems I will start a separate thread for each of
  them.
  
  I added the Batterie to a shelf, but it_s greyed out, it doesn't show me
  how much the batterie is charged.
  
  What can I do?
 
 Right click/Settings then find hardware and experiment with the different
 settings until you find one that works.

Working now, thanks
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Re: [e-users] Application Icons

2010-08-16 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Montag, 16. August 2010, 20:55:04 schrieb Mick:
 On Monday 16 August 2010 12:55:19 jason.mel...@gmail.com wrote:
  Some of my applications do not have valid icons in e17. Google Chrome for
  example, displays a missing icon (black circle with question mark
  inside). Chrome is installed to /opt/google/chome, and in that folder
  are several .png and .xpm files. I have tried to right-click on a
  running chrome application, select Edit Icon, and from the Icon tab,
  replace google-chrome with the full path to several of the .png and
  .xpm files. When I do so, the image shows up in the preview window,
  however the setting does not apply. That is, clicking apply or okay does
  not replace the icon file and the next time I open the dialog up, the
  icon file again says google-chrome.
  
  What is the proper way to set the icon for an application?
 
 I have noticed the same.  Some applications will readily use
 /usr/share/icons/hicolor/ icons, others won't and display a ?
 
 Even if I select one manually by right clicking on the top left corner of
 the window and go to 'More/Border/Use Application Provided Icon', the
 selection does not stick when I relaunch the application.  I can't be
 bothered to create my own .desktop files just for using the right icon, so
 I have been living with it.  No idea why this difference between apps
 though.

I posted about this some time ago already, it's also impossible to change any 
setting for an Icon for example the name or whatever. i can apply the changes 
but they don't stay.

Karl

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Re: [e-users] ALT-ESC and then run applications SOLVED

2010-08-16 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Montag, 16. August 2010, 21:16:45 schrieben Sie:
 I think you need create an account and log in for the menu to appear.
 

Hmm I can't find the place where to create an account.
Can you guide me?
Karl

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Re: [e-users] modules, where are they?

2010-08-15 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 This could be due to your ~/.xinitrc file (or lack thereof).  The
 following should work but you may want/need something more complicated:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 enlightenment_start

I had no .xinitrc and I created one with only these two lines. It worked.
Do I have to delete this file again to start kde4 at startup or is kdm 
untouched?

I just see that I'm not totally done with compiling the modules, I still get 
this error:
checking for E... configure: error: Package requirements (enlightenment
  eweather) were not met:

No package 'eweather' found


I don't understand it because eweather is part of the modules that I just try 
to compile.

Thanks
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Re: [e-users] modules, where are they?

2010-08-15 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 For make uninstall to work you need first a 'make uninstall' makefile
 target. So make sure that you are in the right directory when you run it.

I did. Is it possible that there are packages without rules for 'make 
uninstall'?

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Re: [e-users] modules, where are they?

2010-08-15 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi

 When the kdm screen comes up there should be a drop down menu with options
 of which WM you want to boot.
 
 Enlightenment should be in there, otherwise you will need to create a
 /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop.  Have a look in the xsessions
 directory to see what's already there.
 
 If you want to launch enlightenment with your own parameters (e.g. so that
 gpg-agent is launched first, etc.) then create your own ~/.xsession file
 which is picked up by the 'custom' WM selection of the kdm menu.

ok

any ideas about my compile error?
-
checking for E... configure: error: Package requirements (enlightenment
  eweather) were not met:

No package 'eweather' found
-

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Re: [e-users] modules, where are they?

2010-08-15 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

because I was running into another missing library that I couldn't find on the 
server I tried easy_e17, but it brings me right into the same missing packages 
in half mode, and in full mode it even needs some gstreamer configuration...

I go back to doing it by hand, this way I will at least understand what 
happens :-)

Thanks
Karl

Am Sonntag, 15. August 2010, 10:45:25 schrieb André Dieb:
 Have you considered using an automated tool for compiling/installing it? I
 use easy_e17 script daily and it works just great.
 Link:
 http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/easy_e17/easy_e17.shhttp://omicron.hom
 eip.net/projects/easy_e17/easy_e17.sh
 
 On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de wrote:
  Hi
  
   When the kdm screen comes up there should be a drop down menu with
  
  options
  
   of which WM you want to boot.
   
   Enlightenment should be in there, otherwise you will need to create a
   /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop.  Have a look in the
   xsessions directory to see what's already there.
   
   If you want to launch enlightenment with your own parameters (e.g. so
  
  that
  
   gpg-agent is launched first, etc.) then create your own ~/.xsession
   file which is picked up by the 'custom' WM selection of the kdm menu.
  
  ok
  
  any ideas about my compile error?
  -
  checking for E... configure: error: Package requirements (enlightenment
  
   eweather) were not met:
  No package 'eweather' found
  -
  
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Re: [e-users] modules, where are they? SOLVED

2010-08-15 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I finally did it, I have it running again. I have some things missing, but 
I'll start another thread for it.

Thanks to everybody
Karl

Am Sonntag, 15. August 2010, 20:32:40 schrieb Karl Sinn:
 Hi,
 
 because I was running into another missing library that I couldn't find on
 the server I tried easy_e17, but it brings me right into the same missing
 packages in half mode, and in full mode it even needs some gstreamer
 configuration...
 
 I go back to doing it by hand, this way I will at least understand what
 happens :-)
 
 Thanks
 Karl
 
 Am Sonntag, 15. August 2010, 10:45:25 schrieb André Dieb:
  Have you considered using an automated tool for compiling/installing it?
  I use easy_e17 script daily and it works just great.
  Link:
  http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/easy_e17/easy_e17.shhttp://omicron.ho
  m eip.net/projects/easy_e17/easy_e17.sh
  
  On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Karl Sinn n...@budostore.de wrote:
   Hi
   
When the kdm screen comes up there should be a drop down menu with
   
   options
   
of which WM you want to boot.

Enlightenment should be in there, otherwise you will need to create a
/usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop.  Have a look in the
xsessions directory to see what's already there.

If you want to launch enlightenment with your own parameters (e.g. so
   
   that
   
gpg-agent is launched first, etc.) then create your own ~/.xsession
file which is picked up by the 'custom' WM selection of the kdm menu.
   
   ok
   
   any ideas about my compile error?
   -
   checking for E... configure: error: Package requirements (enlightenment
   
eweather) were not met:
   No package 'eweather' found
   -
   
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[e-users] ALT-ESC and then run applications

2010-08-15 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

before I could press ALT+ESC and then I could start writing the name of the 
application that I wanted to execute and after a few letters all possibilities 
were shown.

After my fresh install I don't have this any more.

How do I get it back?

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Re: [e-users] ALT-ESC and then run applications

2010-08-15 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 You can set up a key binding (Settings Panel-Input-Key Bindings), and
 create a new binding - you can bind ALT+ESC to the action named Show
 Exebuf Plugin.


This gives me this big thing. Befoer there was a smaller on, I could just 
start typing the name of the application and it was showing the fitting 
applications, nothing else.
What's the name of this one?

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[e-users] modules, where are they?

2010-08-14 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I just managed to compile and install a svn snapshot of E17, but I'm missing 
the modules. Google didn't help me.

Where can I find them, and the instructions for compiling and installing?
One more question: if I have installed with make install, how do I 
uninstall?

Thanks
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Re: [e-users] modules, where are they?

2010-08-14 Thread Karl Sinn
Am Samstag, 14. August 2010, 21:02:45 schrieb André Dieb:
 You don't have autopoint installed. AFAIR it's part of the gettext package.

I found it in the gettext-tools package.
I can compile now.

Next problem:
Is it possible to start e17 from konsole within kde4 with startx in a 
different xsession?
I tried startx -- :1 but it always brings me kde.

Thanks
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Re: [e-users] Once more: desktop files for application on the iBar

2010-06-02 Thread Karl Sinn
 1. try remove *lock files in ~/.efreet - i have found that my efreeet dir
  got locked and needed a good deleting to fix stale locks.
 2.
 run
  /usr/l/usr/local/lib/efreet/efreet_desktop_cache_createocal/lib/efreet/efr
 eet_desktop_cache_create (or wherever you installed efreet) by hand to
  re-generate caches and restart e) 
  2. if this is different to the system
  one - give it a different .desktop file name - eg mykonsole.desktop

I removed the *lock files, but I can't find efreet_desktop_cache_create on my 
system.
And I can not change the desktop file setting on the application in the iBar. 
Whatever I change there, is not saved.
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Re: [e-users] Once more: desktop files for application on the iBar

2010-06-02 Thread Karl Sinn
 use locate. that binary is in PREFIX/lib/efreet - PREFIX being the prefix
  you used to install. my copy and paste screwed up. :)

ok, now  I found it, executed it, restarted enlightenment = nothing changed
althouh the entry for Icon in the file is the same now than for firefox.

To figure if these files are taken into account I renamed the file for 
Firefox, and after restarting enlightenment it disappeared which means that 
these files are taken into consideration, so probably he just can't find the 
icon file.

In the Firefox desktop file for icon it's simply written firefox, but where 
does enlightenment actually look up the actual filename?
Is this application dependent?
May this be the reason that in the konsole desktop file the icon can't be 
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Re: [e-users] Once more: desktop files for application on the iBar

2010-06-02 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 thanks for the hint but I would like to understand the problem and I'm not 
ready yet to change the theme.

Out of curiosity: This is a gnome theme, does it provide icons for KDE 
applications like Kmail and Konsole?

Thanks
Karl


Am Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 09:13:24 schrieb Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson:
I downloaded another Icon Theme, LaGaDesk-BlackWhite-III, and
 installed (extracted) it to $HOME/.local/share/icons. Went to
 Settings-Icon Theme and chose it from the list, then restarted E. That
 gave me a lot of icons for the IBar et al and it goes very well with the
 Black  White theme.
 
I've tried some other Icon Themes from gnome-look.org, some work and
 some are crashing E (I'm running E from svn).
 
You find the LaGaDesk-Icon Theme here:
 

  http://lagadesk.deviantart.com/art/LaGaDesk-BlackWhite-III-1-4-0-144847996
 
Extract the downloaded file with the commands.
 
 $ unzip LaGaDesk_BlackWhite_III_1_4_0_by_LaGaDesk.zip
 $ tar xjf LaGaDesk-BW-Icons/LaGaDesk-BlackWhite-III.tar.bz2 -C
 .local/share/icons/
 
Give some credit to LaGaDesk and Enlightenment team :-)
 
 Regards
 - Ingi
 
 On 06/02/2010 08:45 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:42:39 +0200 Karl Sinnn...@budostore.de  said:
  1. try remove *lock files in ~/.efreet - i have found that my efreeet
  dir got locked and needed a good deleting to fix stale locks.
  2.
  run
   
  /usr/l/usr/local/lib/efreet/efreet_desktop_cache_createocal/lib/efreet/
 efr eet_desktop_cache_create (or wherever you installed efreet) by hand
  to re-generate caches and restart e)
2. if this is different to the system
one - give it a different .desktop file name - eg mykonsole.desktop
 
  I removed the *lock files, but I can't find efreet_desktop_cache_create
  on my system.
  And I can not change the desktop file setting on the application in the
  iBar. Whatever I change there, is not saved.
Karl
 
  use locate. that binary is in PREFIX/lib/efreet - PREFIX being the prefix
  you used to install. my copy and paste screwed up. :)
 
   
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Re: [e-users] Once more: desktop files for application on the iBar

2010-06-02 Thread Karl Sinn
now it's getting weird, I managed to change the icon of firefox, but there's 
still now way to get an icon for konsole.

What else can I try?

Is there a way to see error messages from the iBar?

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Re: [e-users] Once more: desktop files for application on the iBar

2010-06-02 Thread Karl Sinn
 This means that your icon theme does not have the icon for konsole. Open
 the desktop file of konsole ( in my case it is in
 /usr/share/applications/kde4/konsole.desktop ) and look for the Icon=
 line. In my case it is named utilities-terminal.
 
 Along with konsole, it must have installed the oxygen theme. You can
 either change your whole icon theme to oxygen, or you can do the following:
 
 cd ~/.local/share/icons
 ln -s /usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/apps/utilities-terminal.png .
 
 And then restart e using Ctrl-Alt-End.

That's it, it worked

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[e-users] Once more: desktop files for application on the iBar

2010-06-01 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I have one program without icon (konsole) in the iBar.
Now I would like to give it an icon. I checked in the settings (of the icon in 
the iBar) the *.desktop file which is named there. It didn't exist, so I 
created it, but even copying an existing working desktop file to the name 
and location didn't make any change. There's still no icon. Which makes me 
believe that these files are not really read at enlightenment startup time.

Anybody knows how this works?

Thanks
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[e-users] Konqueror opens from iBar always an unexisting path

2010-05-31 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I have an Icon for Konqueror in the iBar.
Unfortunately whenever I call Konqueror from it it tries to open 
file:///home/karl/text/html, which of course doesn't exist.

Changing the Konqueror settings doesn't change anything;

I think that I have identified the problem:
by right-click=change icon properties on the Icon on the iBar (translated 
from German) i can see that for program is written kfmclient openURL %u 
text/html.

The problem is probably this text/html but I can't change or delete it.

How do I change this settings?

Thanks
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Re: [e-users] Problem with window positioning from systray

2010-05-31 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 AFAIK no.  Apparently the fault lies on the KWin side of things, so it
  isn't likely to get fixed any time soon. E's implementation of the
  window stuff is the correct one from what I have heard.

to bad, this is really annoying, maybe there's a possibility to write a patch, 
or to oblige this window to always  open at the same place?
All the tries i did with the window settings unfortunately failed.

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[e-users] E17 crashes after update

2010-05-30 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I'm running openSuSE 11.2 and yesterday evening I updated e17 with Yast to:
E17-svn_20100516_r48925-3.1.i586

now enlightenment doesn't start any more. I see a black screen for a moment 
and then kdm comes back.

When I try to start enlightenment from the console I get this error message:
enlightenment: symbol lookup error: enlightenment: undefined symbol: 
EFREET_EVENT_DESKTOP_CACHE_UPDATE

Google didn't help.

What can I do?

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Re: [e-users] E17 crashes after update

2010-05-30 Thread Karl Sinn
 The undefined symbol means there's a syntax/logic error in the code and it
 may have nothing to do with enlightenment - try to run a debug and post the
 output - you'll likely be able to find the offending code easier.

how do I run a debug?

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Re: [e-users] E17 crashes after update

2010-05-30 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

I tried to install debug-info and I runned gdb enlightenment. The output is 
at the end of the mail.

what else should I do?

Thanks
Karl





gdb enlightenment
GNU gdb (GDB) SUSE (6.8.91.20090930-2.4)
Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type show copying
and show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as i586-suse-linux.
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/...
Reading symbols from /usr/bin/enlightenment...Reading symbols from 
/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/enlightenment.debug...done.
done.
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/enlightenment
Missing separate debuginfo for /lib/ld-linux.so.2
Try: zypper install -C debuginfo(build-
id)=d7706cbaa0ca09319cb645eac789cb8399078797
/usr/bin/enlightenment: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/enlightenment: undefined 
symbol: EFREET_EVENT_DESKTOP_CACHE_UPDATE

Program exited with code 0177.

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Re: [e-users] E17 crashes after update

2010-05-30 Thread Karl Sinn
Hi,

 e17 doesnt crash. it exits before it even begins to run (unless you have
  lazy linking) because your efreet misses a symbol used by e - as such this
  is a problem with your packagers and that they built an e against an
  efreet you dont have there as a dependency. please talk to your package
  maintainers about this. it's not an upstream bug :)

I looked in Yast and there were other packages to enlightenment with updates. 
I updated them and now I can start enlightenment again.

I also send a message to the maintainer

Now I get this error message on startup:
Beim Laden des Moduls msgbus_lang ist ein Fehler aufgetreten.
Es wurde kein Modul mit dem Namen msgbus_lang/linux-gnu-i686-ver-pre-
svn-05/module.so in den Modulverzeichnissen gefunden.


Do I have to update another package?

Thanks Karl



 
  Hi,
 
  I'm running openSuSE 11.2 and yesterday evening I updated e17 with Yast
  to: E17-svn_20100516_r48925-3.1.i586
 
  now enlightenment doesn't start any more. I see a black screen for a
  moment and then kdm comes back.
 
  When I try to start enlightenment from the console I get this error
  message: enlightenment: symbol lookup error: enlightenment: undefined
  symbol: EFREET_EVENT_DESKTOP_CACHE_UPDATE
 
  Google didn't help.
 
  What can I do?
 
  Thanks
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