Re: [e-users] enlightenment-git dual screen problem
On Monday, 25 March 2019 18:34:25 GMT leoutat...@gmx.fr wrote: > On 3/25/19 4:29 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 14:20:20 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > >> Hi > >> I use dual screen to clone laptop to TV > >> I configured enlightenment screen, it works, but: > >> - Video is a little cropped on TV screen on four sides. > >> - after restarting x server, configuration is displayed non stored > >> How to avoid that? > >> See screenshot attachment > >> X server > >> laptop screen size 1600x900 (ratio 1.77) > >> tv screen size 1920x1080 (ratio 1.77) > >> arch system > >> efl-git 1.22.0beta2.61568 > >> enlightenment-git 0.22.99.23537 > > > > Nothing attached... ? and I'm not sure exactly what you mean without some > > examples. > > I hate html mail but attached file doesnt seem working now for me... > > > -- > Maderios Try posting a screenshot/pic here and then share the link: https://imgur.com/upload -- Regards, Mick ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Problem with kodi multimedia player
On Tuesday, 5 February 2019 13:12:38 GMT Eric wrote: > Hello, > > I have had a problem with kodi on the enlightenment desktop for quite > some time and have had no luck trying to resolve it. > > The problem is that kodi only shows a black window when it is in > windowed mode. It works fine in full screen mode. It has been like this > since about the time xbmc became kodi. > > This occurs with Ubuntu, Arch and openSuse with Intel and Nvidia video > cards. > > Has anyone used kodi on their enlightenment desktop in windowed mode > with success? > > I have not had any luck searching for solutions on the internet. > > I like to use kodi in windowed mode so I can keep an eye on other things > going on such as temperature when using it as a media player without > having to close the app or switch to a different terminal. > > Regards, > > Eric I've had a similar experience with various apps using hardware acceleration, so I blamed Radeon for it. The workaround for me has been to press Ctrl+Alt+End which restarts the compositor and the app window is rendered properly thereafter. HTH in your case. -- Regards, Mick ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment "freezing" when opening a new window... sometimes
driver > > related. depending on the driver, efl will request animation updates from > > the drm driver as vsync events. i know i expanded the whitelist so it > > could be that your card went from not on the white list to on it. this > > leads to animation perfectly timed with screen refresh, and in this case > > efl will be talking to the dm driver stack saying "send me vblank > > events". oddly your pointer updates so... some animator is ticking > > somewhere i think. perhaps e stops getting vsync events for some reason > > (or some hiccup stops it from requesting them as this is turned on and > > off on the fly depending on animation needs so we don't tick over > > unnecessarily when everything is idle). so there is a possibility there > > is something over there causing it. let's explore this path if the > > swapbuffers are not being called. if they are then... unfortunately we've > > found a bug in your driver stack. :( yes - i know.they are the only > > changes you made thus you go "bug must be there". you are only looking at > > one dimension in that case. the other dimensions are the stack and who is > > responsible for what. changes we made may have now changed code paths in > > the driver and now triggered that bug 9it could be us asking for vsync > > events at the same time as rendering and now with rendering being more > > "synchronised" it's finding some race condition in the driver). but again > > - this all depends if the swapbuffers is being called as i indicated. you > > can set a breakpoint for it too: b glXSwapBuffers > > > > so have a look in that direction. if you need more details, please ask. > > i'm > > kind of hand-wavy pointing in the direction of what i would do. the only > > place i ever saw this was on my laptop... and every time it happened... i > > was not in any position to use a network to ssh in... :) > > I'm pretty sure there was a phab issue for this but I can't find it I > can replicate it 100% by going Main -> Applications -> [Some other menu] > and messing around. > > The issue seems to be Mesa related, I can replicate it under Mesa 18.1.7 > but not 18.0.2 if that helps. I haven't had time to look at it further, > but now things are getting quieter I can probably provide more, I hit it > everytime on my laptop. > > When the issue occurs you can restart E from a keybinding and it will go > back to normal. It still freezes here on a mesa-18.2.7, e-0.22.4, efl-1.20.7-r1, with radeon card: RV730/M96-XT [Mobility Radeon HD 4670]. It also freezes on an old laptop with 'Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' and i915 driver (same mesa version). The freezing occurs when some windows are launched (which may be a bit heavy on hardware acceleration?) like Libreoffice, Filezilla, etc., but typically the first time only. Ctrl+Alt+End gets me out of this. It also occurs when I try to switch between windows with Alt+tab. Again Ctrl+Alt+End gets back to my desktop. Pressing keys on the dead window/desktop actually receives and processes signals, but it is not visible at the time. Finally, if I Right Click and navigate to Applications, System, the desktop restarts as if I pressed Ctrl+Alt+End. This also occurs when trying to edit the contents of menus, e.g. Favorites, or when I go to any settings which contain a desktop menu. This has been happening for years now, but I hoped a later mesa version will eventually fix things. -- Regards, Mick ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE both set to gtk2
On Monday, 24 September 2018 12:07:48 BST Mick wrote: > On Monday, 24 September 2018 06:34:35 BST Simon Lees wrote: > > On 18/09/2018 23:59, Mick wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 11:27:35 BST sergio wrote: > > >> On 18/09/2018 11:31, Mick wrote: > > >>> Where are QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME and QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE specified outside > > >>> the > > >>> GUI? In ~/.bashrc? Where could they be set for system wide settings? > > >> > > >> QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE is not specified. > > >> > > >> QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME is from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99qt5ct, which > > >> rewrites > > > > > >> nothing, and just adds: > > > OK, this file is not installed in gentoo. > > > > > >> moreover, there is ~/.xsession for user settings > > > > > > I tried unsetting $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE in ~.xsession, but I still got > > > gtk2. > > > Then, set it to a blank value using e's Settings/Advanced/Environment > > > Variables and this time it took. However, I'm still no closer to having > > > KDE applications launching with QT themes and icons, unless I launch > > > them > > > from within urxvt. > > > > Setting it from enlightenment's environment variable section should > > work, the way its implemented at the moment is the least worst way we > > could come up with to not have all users Qt apps broken by default. > > Yes, setting $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE to a blank value using e's > Settings/Advanced/ Environment Variables works in clearing the default gtk2 > value. > > Adding the contents of the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99qt5ct file Sergio mentioned > also works in defining $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME as qt5ct. > > What doesn't work is starting any KDE application and having it load the Qt > theme I have selected. The only exception seems to be when I launch a KDE > application from within urxvt, whereby the Qt theme is respected and loads > as expected. > > The urxvt terminal output where Qt theme works is this: > > $ kwrite > qt5ct: using qt5ct plugin > QApplication: invalid style override passed, ignoring it. > qt5ct: D-Bus global menu: no > QXcbConnection: XCB error: 5 (BadAtom), sequence: 955, resource id: 0, major > code: 19 (DeleteProperty), minor code: 0 > > > While the terminology/xterm output where Qt theme is ignored is this: > > $ kwrite > QApplication: invalid style override passed, ignoring it. Ha! Found the solution: Removed the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99qt5ct file which is not installed by default in Gentoo (may be a distro specific solution). Used e's GUI to set both an empty QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE and QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME as qt5ct. Now Qt themes are recognised and loaded normally. :-) -- Regards, Mick ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE both set to gtk2
On Monday, 24 September 2018 06:34:35 BST Simon Lees wrote: > On 18/09/2018 23:59, Mick wrote: > > On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 11:27:35 BST sergio wrote: > >> On 18/09/2018 11:31, Mick wrote: > >>> Where are QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME and QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE specified outside > >>> the > >>> GUI? In ~/.bashrc? Where could they be set for system wide settings? > >> > >> QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE is not specified. > >> > >> QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME is from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99qt5ct, which rewrites > > > >> nothing, and just adds: > > OK, this file is not installed in gentoo. > > > >> moreover, there is ~/.xsession for user settings > > > > I tried unsetting $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE in ~.xsession, but I still got gtk2. > > Then, set it to a blank value using e's Settings/Advanced/Environment > > Variables and this time it took. However, I'm still no closer to having > > KDE applications launching with QT themes and icons, unless I launch them > > from within urxvt. > > Setting it from enlightenment's environment variable section should > work, the way its implemented at the moment is the least worst way we > could come up with to not have all users Qt apps broken by default. Yes, setting $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE to a blank value using e's Settings/Advanced/ Environment Variables works in clearing the default gtk2 value. Adding the contents of the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99qt5ct file Sergio mentioned also works in defining $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME as qt5ct. What doesn't work is starting any KDE application and having it load the Qt theme I have selected. The only exception seems to be when I launch a KDE application from within urxvt, whereby the Qt theme is respected and loads as expected. The urxvt terminal output where Qt theme works is this: $ kwrite qt5ct: using qt5ct plugin QApplication: invalid style override passed, ignoring it. qt5ct: D-Bus global menu: no QXcbConnection: XCB error: 5 (BadAtom), sequence: 955, resource id: 0, major code: 19 (DeleteProperty), minor code: 0 While the terminology/xterm output where Qt theme is ignored is this: $ kwrite QApplication: invalid style override passed, ignoring it. -- Regards, Mick ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE both set to gtk2
On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 11:27:35 BST sergio wrote: > On 18/09/2018 11:31, Mick wrote: > > Where are QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME and QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE specified outside the > > GUI? In ~/.bashrc? Where could they be set for system wide settings? > > QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE is not specified. > > QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME is from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99qt5ct, which rewrites > nothing, and just adds: OK, this file is not installed in gentoo. > moreover, there is ~/.xsession for user settings I tried unsetting $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE in ~.xsession, but I still got gtk2. Then, set it to a blank value using e's Settings/Advanced/Environment Variables and this time it took. However, I'm still no closer to having KDE applications launching with QT themes and icons, unless I launch them from within urxvt. -- Regards, Mick ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE both set to gtk2
On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 02:08:47 BST sergio wrote: > On 18/09/2018 03:25, Simon Lees wrote: > > This was intentional, with nothing set > > QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME is set before enlightenment start. > > Please just don't redefine my environment! Where are QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME and QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE specified outside the GUI? In ~/.bashrc? Where could they be set for system wide settings? -- Regards, Mick ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE both set to gtk2
On Monday, 17 September 2018 19:38:20 BST sergio wrote: > My e config is minimal. A few modules are loaded. Nothing in Settings -> > Advanced -> Environment Variables. Also I've inspected configs with vieet. > > enlightenment start from ~/.xsession with enlightenment_start > > If I replace enlightenment_start with xterm $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE is not > set and $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME is qt5ct. But just soon as I run > enlightenment_start it set both variables to gtk2 In Settings Panel/Advanced/Environment Variables, I added the setting: XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP KDE The two variables you mention above are shown as: $ echo $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE gtk2 $ echo $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME qt5ct if I run the above in urxvt. However, when I run the same in xterm/ terminology, I get: $ echo $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE gtk2 $ echo $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME gtk2 In addition, when I launch a KDE application from the menu, e.g. kwrite, it has no application icons and the fonts are really small. If I launch the same application from urxvt, it launches with its icons and full theme. Trying to launch qt5ct from urxvt I get a popup complaining: Error: Please remove the QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE environment variable. >From xterm I get: Please remove the QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE environment variable The QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME environment variable is not set correctly In both cases qt5ct fails to launch. I suspect there has been some disconnect between e and Qt5 for some time now. I would also be interested to know if there is a fix for this. -- Regards, Mick ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Removing gadgets from desktop
On Friday, 24 August 2018 11:51:22 BST Peter Flynn wrote: > On 24/08/18 11:24, Mick wrote: > > On Friday, 24 August 2018 10:40:43 BST Peter Flynn wrote: > >> I didn't think that any Linux worked with touch screen devices. I looked > >> last year, as I was in the market for a new laptop, and I reckoned it > >> would be 4–5 years before the hardware would be stable enough to write > >> for it in an open source environment where you don't have commercial > >> access to the APIs or privileged access to the specs. > > > > Suits me, I detest thumbprints on screens! ;-) > > I've been known to "help" a user by leaning over their shoulder to touch > something on their screen, only to find theirs isn't a touchscreen... Perhaps it's an acquired habit. I was trained before the days of iPhones and touchscreens and still prefer a keyboard and if need be mouse. > >> Bryce is being renamed, apparently. That's probably good. It's called a > >> dock or a toolbar usually. > > > > Whatever it may be called, how is Bryce launched? I don't see it under > > extensions, shelves, modules, gadgets in Settings. :-/ > > It's not. It's under Menu > Desktop > Add Bryce, presumably because it's > an entirely separate system from any of the existing shelf/ibar-related > extensions/shelves/modules/gadgets. Found it! :-) > The setup asks you to select screen edge (T/B/L/R), position (left/top, > middle/centre, or right/bottom), opacity, auto-resize (yes), auto-hide > (yes), and the mysterious "Do not stack above windows" which I left > untouched as I don't understand its implications, because a dock/toolbar > doesn't "stack", it pops up and pops away. I swear there was a module some years ago replicating the AppleMac dock thingy, but I can't recall its name. > That gives you a rudimentary dock like a Mac (which is why I like it so > much). When you run an application from the normal menus, its icon > appears in the bryce and you can right-click it and pick (+) to add it > permanently. Repeat for your primary applications. Interesting! So it is a ibox + ibar combo. > For the gadets, place your mouse pointer on any of the icons and then > use Alt-rightclick and pick Bryce > Gadgets. The Gadgets panel uses > floating-drag, so you click and release and the selected gadget becomes > sticky so you can drag it *without* holding down the mouse button, and > drop it onto the bryce where you want it. > > One of the gadgets is a whole block of icons of popular applications, so > you might want to start with that rather than adding them all individually. Thanks Peter for explaining bryce's functionality. I'm trying to think how/ why I would use it in addition to the one and only shelf I have at the bottom of my desktop. The problem is I don't have any free edges in my habitual desktop layout: The bottom edge has a shelf with start/ibox/pager/ibar/gadgets/clock; The LH has gkrellms and some gadgets; The top has some folders/files I access frequently; The RH is permanently taken up by two terminals. Other virtual desktops have mail/browser and usually at least one terminal. I guess I could use Bryce there, but is it configurable individually on each virtual desktop, or is it one size fits all? -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Removing gadgets from desktop
On Friday, 24 August 2018 10:40:43 BST Peter Flynn wrote: > I didn't think that any Linux worked with touch screen devices. I looked > last year, as I was in the market for a new laptop, and I reckoned it > would be 4–5 years before the hardware would be stable enough to write > for it in an open source environment where you don't have commercial > access to the APIs or privileged access to the specs. Suits me, I detest thumbprints on screens! ;-) > Bryce is being renamed, apparently. That's probably good. It's called a > dock or a toolbar usually. Whatever it may be called, how is Bryce launched? I don't see it under extensions, shelves, modules, gadgets in Settings. :-/ -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Compositor restarts on certain menu selection
On Thursday, 9 August 2018 04:40:37 BST Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 08 Aug 2018 19:58:11 +0100 Mick said: > > I'm trying to fathom what's causing e to restart every time I hover my > > mouse towards the main menu's Applications/System/ > > > > .xsession-errors shows: > > > > PAUSE ! > > that's a crash. do you have ~/.e-crashdump.txt ? do your efl and e binaries > have debug symbols? gdb installed? No, I haven't enabled debug yet. Nevertheless, when e starts I get a number of eina complaints like this recorded in .xsession-errors: = gpg-agent[9511]: WARNING: "--write-env-file" is an obsolete option - it has no effect gpg-agent[9511]: enabled debug flags: ipc ERR<9537>:eina_safety lib/efreet/efreet_ini.c:412 efreet_ini_localestring_get() safety check failed: ini->section == NULL ## Copy & Paste the below (until EOF) into a terminal, then hit Enter eina_btlog << EOF /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 0x7ff2f41af9bc 0x7ff2f4188000 /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 0x7ff2f41b06e1 0x7ff2f4188000 /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 0x7ff2f41b1ac3 0x7ff2f4188000 /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 0x7ff2f41c0f62 0x7ff2f4188000 /usr/lib64/libefreet.so.10x7ff2f38dde5f 0x7ff2f38d2000 /usr/lib64/efreet/v-1.20/efreet_icon_cache_create0x5596b9efa48d 0x5596b9ef6000 /usr/lib64/efreet/v-1.20/efreet_icon_cache_create0x5596b9efabf6 0x5596b9ef6000 /usr/lib64/efreet/v-1.20/efreet_icon_cache_create0x5596b9ef8ebd 0x5596b9ef6000 /lib64/libc.so.6 0x7ff2f330ef0a 0x7ff2f32ee000 /usr/lib64/efreet/v-1.20/efreet_icon_cache_create0x5596b9ef99ba 0x5596b9ef6000 EOF == Which generates this beauty: /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1| ??/??: 0 @ _eina_semaphore_free() /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1| ??/??: 0 @ eina_log_print_cb_stdout() /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1| ??/??: 0 @ eina_log_print() /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1| ??/??: 0 @ _eina_safety_error() /usr/lib64/libefreet.so.1 | ??/??: 0 @ efreet_ini_localestring_get() /usr/lib64/efreet/v-1.20/efreet_icon_cache_create| ??/??: 0 @ _start() /usr/lib64/efreet/v-1.20/efreet_icon_cache_create| ??/??: 0 @ _start() /usr/lib64/efreet/v-1.20/efreet_icon_cache_create| / : 0 @ () /lib64/libc.so.6 | ??/??: 0 @ __libc_start_main() /usr/lib64/efreet/v-1.20/efreet_icon_cache_create| ??/??: 0 @ _start() I've used glibc-2.26-r7 and gcc-7.3.0 to build e & efl. The above warnings are recorded @ startup and without having a experienced yet the crash I mentioned in the previous post. In a similar vain when I use Alt+tab to switch between windows, the desktop freezes and I have to press Ctrl+Alt+End to restart it. The file .e-crashdump remains empty. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Compositor restarts on certain menu selection
I'm trying to fathom what's causing e to restart every time I hover my mouse towards the main menu's Applications/System/ .xsession-errors shows: PAUSE ! org.kde.knotifications: warning: failed to connect to ActionInvoked dbus signal org.kde.knotifications: warning: failed to connect to NotificationClosed dbus signal action halt 3 action reboot 3 action suspend 3 action hibernate 3 The same thing happens if I go to Settings Panel/Apps and click on any of the selections therein. The first application on the list seems to be Aqemu, which when launched from a terminal results in a string of messages: $ aqemu qt5ct: using qt5ct plugin QApplication: invalid style override passed, ignoring it. AQEMU Warning [2] >>> Sender: bool Emulator::Load( const QString ) Message: No "qemu-system-arm" element! AQEMU Warning [3] >>> Sender: bool Emulator::Load( const QString ) Message: No "qemu-system-cris" element! AQEMU Warning [4] >>> Sender: bool Emulator::Load( const QString ) Message: No "qemu-system-m68k" element! [snip ...] with this one being the only error message shown in red: AQEMU Error [35] >>> Sender: void Virtual_Machine::Set_Icon_Path( const QString _name ) Message: File name is empty! Could it be caused by some dodgy .desktop file? PS. I'm on enlightenment-22.3 and efl-1.20.7-r1 running on gentoo. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] weather gadget
On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 10:45:24 BST leoutat...@gmx.fr wrote: > Hi > A long time ago, weather gadget was available in E17. > Any hope to see it again one day? > Thanks +1 I was using it until it broke some years ago. I think there's no maintainer for it. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Size of characters
On Tuesday, 24 July 2018 10:43:06 BST Pierre Couderc wrote: > On 07/24/2018 11:26 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 08:18:49 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: > >> On 07/24/2018 06:06 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>> actually no. this is where users and many toolkits and apps get it > >>> totally > >>> wrong. so you specify font size. what about icons and other elements > >>> then? > >>> that is precisely why efl just uses a "scale" factor. a single number > >>> (1.0 > >>> being the default, 2.0 == 2x as big etc.) where everything that can > >>> scale is multiplied by that value, and that value is farmed out to the > >>> user to decide what works best for them. enlightenment has an option to > >>> calculate the scale factor based on dpi (with a base dpi of X == 1.0) > >>> using the real physical dpi to do it. this is one of the first > >>> questions enlightenment asks in its wizard giving you a whole bunch of > >>> options to choose from with previews so you pick what looks right. but > >>> this only affects efl/e. > >>> > >>> another way users/toolkits do this is "set dpi". you DO NOT SET dpi. dpi > >>> is > >>> a property o the screen (and its current resolution). SETTING it to get > >>> something to scale up is NOT right. now, if you do, apps that want to > >>> actually display something at a specific physical size on the screen > >>> (15x33mm for example) can't because dpi is now wrong. dpi is directly > >>> related to screen size, and querying screen size is now no longer a way > >>> to > >>> figure out what kind of screen you might have (~32"+ tv? desktop > >>> (~19-30")?, laptop (~10-17"), tablet (~7-10")? phone(~3-7") etc. (yes. > >>> things play guessorama based on these kinds of things to alter behaviour > >>> to > >>> fit that kind of device, but if you fake dpi then these guesses are > >>> going > >>> to be wrong). > >> > >> I fully agree and I illustrate it : my laptop is 14'' and 1920x1080, and > >> I have a second screen 24'' and 1920x1080 !! > >> So "scale" factor is a good solution. But... > >> It does not work : the scale factor should be different for each screen. > >> There is a "Scale" factor in the "Screen Setup" but it has no effect > >> (in last git version). > >> What do I miss ? > > > > actually... this is possible. :) with efl+enlightenment it is. e will send > > messages to the window to change scale factor *IF* you set up the screen > > with a different scale factor in the screen setup dialog... the problem > > is this messes up enlightenment right now as scale factor is "per > > process" as opposed to "per parent object" (well actually it is per > > parent object but the way it's implemented is problematic for e as it has > > a single window spanning both screens...). check the screen setup dialog > > under "use profile". check it then you can even select a whole different > > config profile for apps on that screen AND optionally a custom scale > > factor... :) ... now drag window from screen to screen.. :) > > > > but this seems to have broken in current git though... it DID work when i > > wrote this support... > > np, I wait and buy a magnifying glass... In an ideal world e's scaling would translate across each application's toolkit, widgets, typefaces, etc. As Carsten said, today it doesn't. The Gnome/Plasma DEs are self-integrated so their applications can be adjusted to fit the user's preferences, but unfortunately their environment variables don't always read across: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ Qt#Configuration_of_Qt5_apps_under_environments_other_than_KDE_Plasma I use a lot of Plasma applications, but unfortunately I can't adjust their sizes and styles using qt5ct. Something sets up QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk2, which I then have to unset manually before I run qt5ct. In addition, Qt applications icons are not loading at start up, although I can set them once using systemsettings5. Restarting the application ends up with no icons again. :-/ It's a pain. :-( -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Size of characters
On Monday, 23 July 2018 10:25:19 BST Pierre Couderc wrote: > Thank you Mick, I try that. > > Raster, please respect the old men... ;) I just discovered on qt5, qtconfig of qt4 has been replaced with qt5ct and qtconfig itself is now a symlink to qtchooser, so you would need qt5ct to adjust settings for qt applications. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Size of characters
On Monday, 23 July 2018 07:44:29 BST Pierre Couderc wrote: > I have many problems with "big" screens (in pixels 1920x1080). > Characters are very small. It is easy to change this in e itself using > "scaling". Yep, I suffer the same here. They say eye sight is the second thing to go with age ... I forget what is the first. :-) > But I have problems with many applications, vlc,thunderbird for > exemple. Maybe it is because I miss some freedesktop utility or settings ? Quite likely. GTK and QT control the size of fonts in menus for individual applications. > I use e alone with a minimum debian system, without display manager, and > I think I miss some basic utilities. This is not a "e" question but I > need help > > Thanks > > PC You need to install they configuration utilities for GTK/QT widgets. For some reason they are broken on my system: $ qtconfig qtconfig: could not exec '/usr/lib64/qt5/bin/qtconfig': No such file or directory -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Alt+Tab = Pause?!
I've updated e to 0.22.3 on Gentoo and every time I press Alt+Tab to move between windows the desktop ... pauses. The 'Select a window' pop-up stays on top and does not disappear when I select one of the windows listed. I have to press Ctl+Alt+End to get a functioning desktop back. xsession-errors shows this: = org.kde.knotifications: warning: failed to connect to ActionInvoked dbus signal org.kde.knotifications: warning: failed to connect to NotificationClosed dbus sign al org.kde.knotifications: warning: failed to connect to ActionInvoked dbus signal org.kde.knotifications: warning: failed to connect to NotificationClosed dbus sign al action halt 3 action reboot 3 action suspend 3 action hibernate 3 PAUSE ! ERR<4851>:eina_safety lib/ecore/ecore_events.c:265 _ecore_event_handler_del() safe ty check failed: event_handler->delete_me is true ## Copy & Paste the below (until EOF) into a terminal, then hit Enter eina_btlog << EOF /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 0x7fc69f5479bc 0x7fc69f52 /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 0x7fc69f5486e1 0x7fc69f52 /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 0x7fc69f549ac3 0x7fc69f52 /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 0x7fc69f558f72 0x7fc69f52 /usr/lib64/libecore.so.1 0x7fc69ec7b94f 0x7fc69ec68000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x565509c52679 0x565509b87000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x565509c91c28 0x565509b87000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x565509c91e84 0x565509b87000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x565509c4e10c 0x565509b87000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x565509c4e297 0x565509b87000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x565509c84988 0x565509b87000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x565509bcdd61 0x565509b87000 /lib64/libc.so.6 0x7fc69b5b744a 0x7fc69b597000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x565509bcebea 0x565509b87000 EOF ERR<4851>:evas_main lib/evas/cache/evas_cache_image.c:711 evas_cache_image_shutdown() Could not stop decoding '/usr/share/pixmaps/ gkrellm.xpm' during shutdown. = Doing as I'm told in xsession-errors above I get this output: /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 | ??/??: 0 @ _eina_semaphore_free() /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 | ??/??: 0 @ eina_log_print_cb_stdout() /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 | ??/??: 0 @ eina_log_print() /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 | ??/??: 0 @ _eina_safety_error() /usr/lib64/libecore.so.1| ??/??: 0 @ ecore_event_current_event_get() /usr/bin/enlightenment| ??/??: 0 @ e_gadcon_client_edit_end() /usr/bin/enlightenment| ??/??: 0 @ e_obj_dialog_obj_theme_set() /usr/bin/enlightenment| ??/??: 0 @ e_object_unref() /usr/bin/enlightenment| ??/??: 0 @ e_gadcon_unpopulate() /usr/bin/enlightenment| ??/??: 0 @ e_gadcon_unpopulate() /usr/bin/enlightenment| ??/??: 0 @ e_livethumb_thumb_get() /usr/bin/enlightenment| ??/??: 0 @ main() /lib64/libc.so.6| ??/??: 0 @ __libc_start_main() /usr/bin/enlightenment| ??/??: 0 @ _start() Until this problem occurred I had no idea how frequently I use Alt+Tab to switch between running applications. :-) Is this a known bug? How can I get out this pause to be able to continue using my desktop? -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Persistent images in Desktop
Have you logged out/in, or Ctrl+Alt+End to see if the dekstop content is refreshed? On Thursday, 8 February 2018 08:45:14 GMT Peter Flynn wrote: > I used the default location (~/Desktop) to save some screenshots (by > pressing PrtScr). Once I had edited and used them, I deleted them, but > their icons are still on my desktop even though they are no longer in > ~/Desktop. See screenshot at http://oimelc.ucc.ie/desktop-screenshot.jpg > > Right-click and delete gets the confirmation query, and if I click > Delete, I get the error message > > "An error occurred while performing an operation. Cannot lstat > '/home/peter/Desktop/shot-2018-01-18_10-00-20.jpg': No such file or > directory" > > Presumably they've been cached somewhere. 'locate' returns nothing, nor > does 'find'. Anyone know where they are? > > ///Peter > > > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Warning of USB stick non-existent path
On Saturday, 26 August 2017 12:43:52 BST Mick wrote: > Something must have gone wrong in the unmounting of a USB stick of mine, > which has an exFAT fs on it. I am sure I unplugged it properly, but from > some point onward every time I login into the desktop an eFM window opens > up with "E" in the address bar and no listed contents. Behind it is a > warning message, titled "Nonexistent path": > > > Nonexistent path > > /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G doesn't exist. > > > I close the eFM window and close the warning, but there it is again when I > relaunch the desktop. I've rebooted with and without the USB stick in the > box, but this makes no difference. Any idea what has caused this and more > importantly how I can get rid of it? Hmm ... after some plugging/unplugging, login out/in and rebooting the warning seems to have gone. Apologies for the noise, but I'm still curious what caused this. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Warning of USB stick non-existent path
Something must have gone wrong in the unmounting of a USB stick of mine, which has an exFAT fs on it. I am sure I unplugged it properly, but from some point onward every time I login into the desktop an eFM window opens up with "E" in the address bar and no listed contents. Behind it is a warning message, titled "Nonexistent path": Nonexistent path /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G doesn't exist. I close the eFM window and close the warning, but there it is again when I relaunch the desktop. I've rebooted with and without the USB stick in the box, but this makes no difference. Any idea what has caused this and more importantly how I can get rid of it? -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] eina complains
On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 08:57:30 you wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 23:12:25 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > I installed e from e_git and noticed multiple entries in > > ~/.xsession-errors > > like this: > > > > ERR<4498>:evas-gl_x11 /data/tmp_var/portage/dev- > > libs/efl-/work/efl-/src/modules/evas/engines/gl_x11/evas_engine.c: > > 1997 _native_bind_cb() eglCreateImage() for Pixmap 0x0xa1154e failed: > > 0x3003 > this above says an egl image create failed. when binding a native pixmap... > which is how compositing works (and transforms pixmaps to eglimages to then > textures to use to render with). this generally shouldn't happen unless > something really bad is going on (pixmap too big? pixmap invalid? driver > issue? ). I see. There are a number of errors, all repeated a few times. I can summarise these as follows: First eina doesn't like something in my locales: ERR<4555>:eina_safety /var/tmp/portage/dev- libs/efl-/work/efl-/src/lib/efreet/efreet_ini.c:412 efreet_ini_localestring_get() safety check failed: ini->section == NULL Then efl and udisks2 have a spat: ERR<4620>:eldbus /var/tmp/portage/dev- libs/efl-/work/efl-/src/lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:818 _props_get_all() Error getting all properties of org.freedesktop.UDisks2 /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sda1, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user. The above is repeated for each partition on the drive. Then evas has the problem with rendering some image: ERR<4544>:evas-gl_x11 /var/tmp/portage/dev- libs/efl-/work/efl-/src/modules/evas/engines/gl_x11/evas_engine.c:1997 _native_bind_cb() eglCreateImage() for Pixmap 0x0xa019c5 failed: 0x3003 Nevertheless none of the above limit my enjoyment of the desktop. :-) > just a note... can you not paste these in with line wrapping on? yes - they > are long lines. they tabulize the output and you have long file paths and > long function names per line/entry ... it's the nature of the data (and the > full path matters especially for modules so we cant just drop down to > filename only) Yes I can remove word wrapping so they look more tidy, attach a txt file and/or use pastebin, but ... > but the top seems wrong. you are missing full debug symbols. you only have > minimal symbols there. I built efl, enlightenment, xorg-server and mesa with: CLAGS="-O2 -ffast-math -march=native -g -ggdb3" Do I need more? > if all the symbols are there and right you should get stuff like: [snip ...] > /usr/local/lib/libeina.so.1 | > /home/raster/C/efl/src/lib/eina/eina_log.c : 2055 @ > eina_log_print_cb_stderr() [snip ...] Hmm ... I assume you built efl in /home/raster/C/, while I built it in /data/tmp_var/portage/ but this directory is cleared out after the package is installed. Is it necessary to retain all the build time files? -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] eina complains
/: 0 @ () /usr/lib64/libecore_evas.so.1| ??/?? : 0 @ _ecore_evas_fps_debug_rendertime_add() /usr/lib64/libecore.so.1 | ??/?? : 0 @ ecore_idle_exiter_del() /usr/lib64/libeo.so.1| ??/?? : 0 @ efl_composite_part_is() /usr/lib64/libeo.so.1| ??/?? : 0 @ efl_event_callback_call() /usr/lib64/libecore.so.1 | ??/?? : 0 @ ecore_main_fd_handler_add() /usr/lib64/libecore.so.1 | ??/?? : 0 @ ecore_main_loop_begin() /usr/bin/enlightenment | ??/?? : 0 @ main() /lib64/libc.so.6 | /data/tmp_var/portage/sys-libs/glibc-2.23-r4/work/glibc-2.23/csu/../csu/libc- start.c: 323 @ __libc_start_main() /usr/bin/enlightenment | ??/?? : 0 @ _start() What does it mean? -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Desktop freeze on tooltip pop ups
On Friday 30 Jun 2017 12:18:52 Mick wrote: > On Thursday 29 Jun 2017 07:37:46 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:06:48 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > built mesa with debug flags and captured another crash. Can you please > > > scan through the backtrace below and confirm if the verdict is still the > > > same and if anything mesa related in particular stands out which I enter > > > in a bug report? > > > > sure. but keep in mind that just because e shows a bug doesnt mean other > > compositors will. > > Yes, I tried had to make LO to crash KDE (plasma), but KDE's compositor > wouldn't have any of it. No matter how much or how fast I moved the mouse > over the menu to cause tooltips to overlap as they popped up and > disappeared/reappeared, KDE continued to display them without freezing up. > If I moved too fast over the tooltip generating area they just blurred a > bit without rendering fully their content in the milliseconds they were > given to render, before the mouse moved on to the next area. Such blurring > would cause a freeze on evas/e. > > Conclusion: Plasma compositor will not cause the same crash by libdri. > > > > https://pastebin.com/Y6SxaKGF > > > > now to this... it doesn't tell me more than it did before... it's a fence > > sync within the driver layer. it's a problem between the driver and itself > > across process boundaries. if you want i can explain what fences are and > > their purpose (in general) and why this would be the case and i can > > probably narrow down where the issues are being caused in the x 2d + dri > > driver stack... but it'll be a long explanation. i do not know the DETAILS > > of the fence implementations down at the dri level... but i do know what > > fences are, what they in general do and why this tells me the issue is not > > something we can solve in efl... > > > > if you want the details - let me know. otherwise know that this is a bug > > you likely have to file with the dri3/mesa/xorg 2d/radeon driver > > people... :/ > I thought this was a radeon driver problem. On some further testing shows > this *also* occurs on Intel! An old Acer Incorporated [ALI] Mobile 4 Series > Chipset (ICH9) Integrated Graphics Controller crashed in the same manner. > This is using the i965 & intel flags in mesa, rather than > r600/radeon/radeonsi. So it does not seem to be radeon specific. I've > tried with mesa-17.0.6 which is when the problems seem to have started and > with mesa-17.1.3. > > I've started with a report to Gentoo for now and will see what they advise. Would there be a setting to disable tooltip hardware acceleration in the compositor I could select, so as to continue using e without crashing? I tried disabling composite effects for menus/popups but it still crashes. What category of composite effects application windows' tooltips fall under? -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Desktop freeze on tooltip pop ups
On Thursday 29 Jun 2017 07:37:46 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:06:48 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > built mesa with debug flags and captured another crash. Can you please > > scan through the backtrace below and confirm if the verdict is still the > > same and if anything mesa related in particular stands out which I enter > > in a bug report? > > sure. but keep in mind that just because e shows a bug doesnt mean other > compositors will. Yes, I tried had to make LO to crash KDE (plasma), but KDE's compositor wouldn't have any of it. No matter how much or how fast I moved the mouse over the menu to cause tooltips to overlap as they popped up and disappeared/reappeared, KDE continued to display them without freezing up. If I moved too fast over the tooltip generating area they just blurred a bit without rendering fully their content in the milliseconds they were given to render, before the mouse moved on to the next area. Such blurring would cause a freeze on evas/e. Conclusion: Plasma compositor will not cause the same crash by libdri. > > https://pastebin.com/Y6SxaKGF > > now to this... it doesn't tell me more than it did before... it's a fence > sync within the driver layer. it's a problem between the driver and itself > across process boundaries. if you want i can explain what fences are and > their purpose (in general) and why this would be the case and i can > probably narrow down where the issues are being caused in the x 2d + dri > driver stack... but it'll be a long explanation. i do not know the DETAILS > of the fence implementations down at the dri level... but i do know what > fences are, what they in general do and why this tells me the issue is not > something we can solve in efl... > > if you want the details - let me know. otherwise know that this is a bug you > likely have to file with the dri3/mesa/xorg 2d/radeon driver people... :/ I thought this was a radeon driver problem. On some further testing shows this *also* occurs on Intel! An old Acer Incorporated [ALI] Mobile 4 Series Chipset (ICH9) Integrated Graphics Controller crashed in the same manner. This is using the i965 & intel flags in mesa, rather than r600/radeon/radeonsi. So it does not seem to be radeon specific. I've tried with mesa-17.0.6 which is when the problems seem to have started and with mesa-17.1.3. I've started with a report to Gentoo for now and will see what they advise. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Desktop freeze on tooltip pop ups
On Wednesday 28 Jun 2017 18:10:33 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 08:52:56 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > Styles: haven't changed this. > > Fast Effects: Enabled only fast composite effects for windows. > > Disable Effects: none selected. > > Rendering Behavior: Don't composite fullscreen windows, > > Engine: OpenGL, > > > >OpenGL options: > > Tear-free updates (VSynced), > > btw... vsync/tear-free ... is a good thing to have :) Yes, I've made a note about this from you mentioning it in some previous thread. ;-) I started a Fluxbox session and tried to cause the same crash, but failed to make it happen. Perhaps because Fluxbox does not use compositing. Anyway, I built mesa with debug flags and captured another crash. Can you please scan through the backtrace below and confirm if the verdict is still the same and if anything mesa related in particular stands out which I enter in a bug report? https://pastebin.com/Y6SxaKGF Thanks again. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Desktop freeze on tooltip pop ups
On Tuesday 27 Jun 2017 23:22:55 you wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:35:34 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > OK, long backtrace uploaded here: > > > > https://pastebin.com/xiAUmsin > > > > > > I see a lot of optimisations in there, probably because I built the > > packages with O2. > > h. driver (libdri) is stick on some fence operation of it's own... i'm > afraid you seem to have hit a driver bug. unless you have enabled in the > compositor settings under misc "grab server during draw". this can help > reduce tearing in x... but it could lock out other clients from releasing > some lock or triggering the fence... :/ this shouldnt really be the case > but it in theory could be. if you dont have grabs enabled... then its a > driver bug. :/ Right, just as I was suspecting, this mess started with a xorg drivers and mesa update. 'Grab Server during draw' is not enabled. Anything else not mentioned explicitly below is also NOT enabled. I have the following settings in the composer which I'm almost sure are the defaults: Styles: haven't changed this. Fast Effects: Enabled only fast composite effects for windows. Disable Effects: none selected. Rendering Behavior: Don't composite fullscreen windows, Engine: OpenGL, OpenGL options: Tear-free updates (VSynced), Texture from pixmap,Ass Assume swapping method: Auto Misc: X Messages: Send flush Send dump Sync: Initial draw timeout for newly mapped windows: 0.15sec Thanks Carsten, I better check if this bug has been reported anywhere. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Desktop freeze on tooltip pop ups
On Sunday 25 Jun 2017 14:35:34 Mick wrote: > On Sunday 25 Jun 2017 16:43:51 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:41:06 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > On Saturday 24 Jun 2017 12:49:09 you wrote: > > > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:50:49 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> > > said: > > > > > Does the above provide anything useful? > > > > > > > > wrong process. that's enlightenment_start not enlightenment. > > > > > > Oh! When I tried to attach /usr/bin/enlightenment just now gdb informed > > > me that this was already being traced by the PID > > > of /usr/bin/enlightenment_start. So I went to > > > /usr/bin/enlightenment_start. > > > > killall -USR1 enlightenment_start > > > > to get it to stop monitoring enlightement... :) > > Ha! I thought it would also kill any children processes, but it didn't! > :-) > > OK, long backtrace uploaded here: > > https://pastebin.com/xiAUmsin > > I see a lot of optimisations in there, probably because I built the packages > with O2. Additional backtrace captured today, when Qpdfview crashed as a tooltip was trying to render when my mouse hovered over the main menu: https://pastebin.com/gA9Up6np Please let me know if you want me to recompile e or any other packages with a different optimization than O2. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Desktop freeze on tooltip pop ups
On Sunday 25 Jun 2017 16:43:51 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:41:06 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > On Saturday 24 Jun 2017 12:49:09 you wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:50:49 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > > Does the above provide anything useful? > > > > > > wrong process. that's enlightenment_start not enlightenment. > > > > Oh! When I tried to attach /usr/bin/enlightenment just now gdb informed > > me that this was already being traced by the PID > > of /usr/bin/enlightenment_start. So I went to > > /usr/bin/enlightenment_start. > > killall -USR1 enlightenment_start > > to get it to stop monitoring enlightement... :) Ha! I thought it would also kill any children processes, but it didn't! :-) OK, long backtrace uploaded here: https://pastebin.com/xiAUmsin I see a lot of optimisations in there, probably because I built the packages with O2. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Desktop freeze on tooltip pop ups
On Saturday 24 Jun 2017 12:49:09 you wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:50:49 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said:
> > Does the above provide anything useful?
>
> wrong process. that's enlightenment_start not enlightenment.
Oh! When I tried to attach /usr/bin/enlightenment just now gdb informed me
that this was already being traced by the PID of /usr/bin/enlightenment_start.
So I went to /usr/bin/enlightenment_start.
My Display Manager is LightDM and I have a ~/.xsession file which contains:
===
#!/bin/sh
if [ -x /usr/bin/gpg-agent ]; then
kill $(ps ux | awk '/gpg-agent/ && !/awk/ {print $2}') >/dev/null 2>&1
fi
if [ -x /usr/bin/gpg-agent ]; then
eval "$(/usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon)"
fi
# Uncomment the following lines to start rxvt-unicode which has the ability to
# run multiple terminals in one single process, thus starting up faster and
# saving resources.
# The --opendisplay ensures that the daemon quits when the X server
terminates,
# therefore we don't need matching lines in agent-shutdown.sh.
if [ -x /usr/bin/urxvtd ]; then
/usr/bin/urxvtd --opendisplay --fork --quiet
fi
#exec ck-launch-session /usr/bin/enlightenment_start
#exec /usr/bin/enlightenment_start
#dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session "/usr/bin/enlightenment_start"
/usr/bin/enlightenment_start
akonadictl stop
wait 4
===
Is the above incorrect?
I seem to have enlightenment mentioned a number of times in ps:
3853 ?SLsl 0:00 /usr/sbin/lightdm
3864 tty7 Ssl+ 0:16 \_ /usr/bin/X :0 -seat seat0 -auth
/var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch
4126 ?SLl0:00 \_ lightdm --session-child 12 21
4153 ?Ss 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/enlightenment_start
4166 ?Ss 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/gpg-agent --sh --write-env-
file /home/michael/.gnupg/.gpg-agent-info --daemon --
/usr/bin/enlightenment_start
4167 ?Sl 1:11 \_ /usr/bin/enlightenment
4168 ?SNs0:00 \_ /usr/bin/efreetd
4190 ?SNsl 0:06 \_ gkrellm
4233 ?SNs0:00 \_
/usr/lib64/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_fm
[snip ...]
4164 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
/usr/bin/gpg-agent --sh --write-env-file /home/michael/.gnupg/.gpg-agent-info
--daemon -- /usr/bin/enlightenment_start
Should this process tree be/look different?
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Re: [e-users] Desktop freeze on tooltip pop ups
On Sunday 18 Jun 2017 08:56:19 you wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:27:50 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > ERR<4114>:evas-gl_x11 modules/evas/engines/gl_x11/evas_engine.c:2842 > > eng_image_native_set() GLX Pixmap create fail > > is your problem... evas is trying to create a glx pixmap for the x pixmap so > it can access it from opengl... as a texture. and that is failing. well > it's the first sign of trouble. > > what happens after that - unknown. attaching gdb might help to get a > backtrace to where e is... > > https://www.enlightenment.org/debugging/enlightenment_debugging > > details how to do this... Thanks Carsten, I had a go at capturing a backtrace, which happened with LibreOffice when a tooltip was trying to come up: GNU gdb (Gentoo 7.12.1 vanilla) 7.12.1 Copyright (C) 2017 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-pc-linux-gnu". Type "show configuration" for configuration details. For bug reporting instructions, please see: <https://bugs.gentoo.org/>. Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at: <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/>. For help, type "help". Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word". (gdb) handle SIG33 pass no [Kstop noprint SignalStop Print Pass to program Description SIG33 NoNo Yes Real-time event 33 (gdb) set pagination 0 (gdb) attach 4165 Attaching to process 4165 Reading symbols from /usr/bin/enlightenment_start...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/bin/enlightenment_start.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libevas.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/lib64/libevas.so.1.18.4.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/lib64/libeina.so.1.18.4.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /lib64/libpthread.so.0...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//lib64/libpthread-2.23.so.debug...done. done. [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1". Reading symbols from /lib64/libc.so.6...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//lib64/libc-2.23.so.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libfontconfig.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug/usr/lib64/libfontconfig.so.1.8.0.debug...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libfreetype.so.6...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/lib64/libfreetype.so.6.14.0.debug...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libluajit-5.1.so.2...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/lib64/libluajit-5.1.so.2.0.4.debug...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libector.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/lib64/libector.so.1.18.4.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libefl.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/lib64/libefl.so.1.18.4.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libeet.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/lib64/libeet.so.1.18.4.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libemile.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/lib64/libemile.so.1.18.4.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libeo.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/lib64/libeo.so.1.18.4.debug...done. done. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib64/libeo.so.1.18.4-gdb.py", line 7, in import eo_gdb ImportError: No module named 'eo_gdb' Reading symbols from /lib64/libdl.so.2...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//lib64/libdl-2.23.so.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /lib64/librt.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//lib64/librt-2.23.so.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /lib64/libm.so.6...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//lib64/libm-2.23.so.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//lib64/ld-2.23.so.debug...done. done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/libexpat.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//usr/lib64/libexpat.so.1.6.3.debug...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /lib64/libz.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib64/debug//lib64/libz.so.1.2.11.debug...(no debugging symbols found)...
[e-users] Desktop freeze on tooltip pop ups
Hi All, Since the last update of radeon/mesa/xorg drivers I find enlightenment 0.21.7 crashing when tooltips are called. On one box (ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670) it has been impossible to work in LibreOffice without a complete lock up of the desktop. On the second more modern system running a Kaveri APU things are more stable, but crashes will occur there too eventually. >From what I have noticed the desktop appears to freeze completely when I happen to hover over a region in an application window, which generates a tooltip popup. The popup boundary shows up faintly, its content does not and the desktop is by then completely frozen. Ctrl+Alt+End which should restart the composer, does not. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace kills the X session leaving a number of defunct elements behind, like gkrellm. This is what Xorg.0.log showed on one crash (a Kmail popup was the cause): [72.222] (II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4589 [72.222] (II) RADEON(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: [72.222] (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0 139.00 1920 1950 1970 2014 1080 1090 1100 1150 +hsync -vsync (69.0 kHz eP) [72.280] (II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4589 [72.280] (II) RADEON(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: [72.280] (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0 139.00 1920 1950 1970 2014 1080 1090 1100 1150 +hsync -vsync (69.0 kHz eP) [ 2959.045] (EE) RADEON(0): drmmode_do_crtc_dpms cannot get last vblank counter [ 10233.208] (EE) RADEON(0): drmmode_do_crtc_dpms cannot get last vblank counter [ 11233.683] (EE) RADEON(0): drmmode_do_crtc_dpms cannot get last vblank counter [ 16428.902] (EE) RADEON(0): drmmode_do_crtc_dpms cannot get last vblank counter [ 20362.524] (EE) RADEON(0): drmmode_do_crtc_dpms cannot get last vblank counter [ 21153.995] (EE) RADEON(0): drmmode_do_crtc_dpms cannot get last vblank counter [ 22280.381] (EE) RADEON(0): drmmode_do_crtc_dpms cannot get last vblank counter [ 24035.370] (EE) RADEON(0): drmmode_do_crtc_dpms cannot get last vblank counter [ 25107.370] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch The above error did not appear when LibreOffice caused a crash. This is what .xsession-errors showed when LibreOffice odg was being worked on and a tooltip tried to come up as I was hovering over the main toolbar: ERR<4114>:edje lib/edje/edje_calc.c:731 _edje_part_description_apply() Cannot find description "clicked" in part "e.dragable.vbar" from group "e/fileman/default/scrollframe". Fallback to default description. poppler/error: May not be a PDF file (continuing anyway)poppler/error: Couldn't find trailer dictionarypoppler/error: Couldn't find trailer dictionarypoppler/error: Couldn't read xref tablepoppler/error: May not be a PDF file (continuing anyway)poppler/error: Couldn't find trailer dictionarypoppler/error: Couldn't find trailer dictionarypoppler/error: Couldn't read xref tablepoppler/error: May not be a PDF file (continuing anyway)poppler/error: Couldn't find trailer dictionarypoppler/error: Couldn't find trailer dictionarypoppler/error: Couldn't read xref tablepoppler/error: May not be a PDF file (continuing anyway)poppler/error: Couldn't find trailer dictionarypoppler/error: Couldn't find trailer dictionarypoppler/error: Couldn't read xref tableERR<4114>:eo lib/eo/eo_ptr_indirection.x:304 _eo_obj_pointer_get() obj_id 0x406f500083db is not pointing to a valid object. Maybe it has already been freed. ERR<4114>:eo lib/eo/eo_ptr_indirection.c:22 _eo_pointer_error() Obj (0x406f500083db) is an invalid ref. ERR<4114>:eo lib/eo/eo_ptr_indirection.x:304 _eo_obj_pointer_get() obj_id 0x40d380008070 is not pointing to a valid object. Maybe it has already been freed. ERR<4114>:eo lib/eo/eo_ptr_indirection.c:22 _eo_pointer_error() Obj (0x40d380008070) is an invalid ref. ERR<4114>:eo lib/eo/eo_ptr_indirection.x:304 _eo_obj_pointer_get() obj_id 0x40a560007c94 is not pointing to a valid object. Maybe it has already been freed. ERR<4114>:eo lib/eo/eo_ptr_indirection.c:22 _eo_pointer_error() Obj (0x40a560007c94) is an invalid ref. failed to create drawable ERR<4114>:evas-gl_x11 modules/evas/engines/gl_x11/evas_engine.c:2842 eng_image_native_set() GLX Pixmap create fail X IO Error I set 'Enable fast composite effects for popups' but it made no difference, so I unset it again. Any idea what is causing this problem? -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Deleting gadgets from the desktop
On Sunday 11 Jun 2017 22:14:53 Peter Flynn wrote: > On 11/06/17 19:34, Mick wrote: > [...] > > > What you are describing is not right, > > It doesn't look right, but it's what comes up. > > This is a freshly-compiled (this afternoon) copy of e from > https://www.enlightenment.org/distros/debian-start There's a dev who looks after the Debian builds, so he can confirm if what you get is expected. > You can see these in the Emacs window in the screenshot. > Why would there be 10 of them and what task do they perform? > > ///Peter I am not entirely sure. I've noticed every time you restart e a new file is incremented. Perhaps they are config backups? You can delete (move) them, restart e and then you could find all these multiple clocks are gone. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Deleting gadgets from the desktop
On Sunday 11 Jun 2017 18:55:59 Peter Flynn wrote: > On 11/06/17 18:50, Peter Flynn wrote: > > On 11/06/17 17:49, Mick wrote: > >> On Sunday 11 Jun 2017 16:26:33 Peter Flynn wrote: > >>> This is puzzling. I wanted a clock on my desktop, so I right-clicked on > >>> the desktop, selected Desktop > Add Gadgets to Desktop and picked Analog > >>> Clock. At that moment, the cursor lost focus (some random background > >>> process stole all the cycles) and I took my finger off the mouse button > >>> and tried again. > >>> > >>> Now I have two overlapping clocks in the middle of my desktop. They can > >>> only be moved with Alt-leftclick, and there is no option in any menu to > >>> delete them. How do I get rid of them? Menu > Desktop > Change Gadgets > >>> doesn't work, because it doesn't report Clock being in use. > > I just went through every file and directory in ~/.e and there is no > mention anywhere of the analogue clock. But there are three on my > desktop. Does anyone know where their presence is configured? > > ///Peter Have a look in .e: find .e -iname *.clock.* There's a few here under this path: .e/e/config/standard/module.clock.1.cfg -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Deleting gadgets from the desktop
On Sunday 11 Jun 2017 18:50:05 you wrote: > On 11/06/17 17:49, Mick wrote: > > On Sunday 11 Jun 2017 16:26:33 Peter Flynn wrote: > >> This is puzzling. I wanted a clock on my desktop, so I right-clicked on > >> the desktop, selected Desktop > Add Gadgets to Desktop and picked Analog > >> Clock. At that moment, the cursor lost focus (some random background > >> process stole all the cycles) and I took my finger off the mouse button > >> and tried again. > >> > >> Now I have two overlapping clocks in the middle of my desktop. They can > >> only be moved with Alt-leftclick, and there is no option in any menu to > >> delete them. How do I get rid of them? Menu > Desktop > Change Gadgets > >> doesn't work, because it doesn't report Clock being in use. > >> > >> ///Peter > > > > Did you try Right-Click on the Clock and then Remove? > > There is no Remove. > > If I right-click on the clockface, I get a dialog which says: > > Show Seconds Off > Date Display None > Weekend Start Saturday > Weekend EndSunday > Timezone System > Background Foreground > > (the last two are color selectors). > > ///Peter What you are describing is not right, these should be showing when you click the Settings of the clock gadget. Have a look here for what the right-click button should show: http://imgur.com/a/r3WKN -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Deleting gadgets from the desktop
On Sunday 11 Jun 2017 16:26:33 Peter Flynn wrote: > This is puzzling. I wanted a clock on my desktop, so I right-clicked on > the desktop, selected Desktop > Add Gadgets to Desktop and picked Analog > Clock. At that moment, the cursor lost focus (some random background > process stole all the cycles) and I took my finger off the mouse button > and tried again. > > Now I have two overlapping clocks in the middle of my desktop. They can > only be moved with Alt-leftclick, and there is no option in any menu to > delete them. How do I get rid of them? Menu > Desktop > Change Gadgets > doesn't work, because it doesn't report Clock being in use. > > ///Peter Did you try Right-Click on the Clock and then Remove? -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] bluetooth pairing without pulseaudio / automatic pairing?
On Monday 10 Apr 2017 14:44:58 Gabriele Zaverio wrote: > A strange thing something happen: a requester pop up saying > > Bluez: error reading list of adapters Check your bluetooth service is running on the PC. then run: $ bluetoothctl [bluetooth]# power on [bluetooth]# agent on [bluetooth]# scan on and associate with the device you want to associate with, set its trust, etc. In addition to the above, 'sudo hciconfig' will show if your bt controller is up & running or down, although bluetoothctl will also complain if your hardware is not on. -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] bluetooth pairing without pulseaudio / automatic pairing?
On Monday 10 Apr 2017 13:53:17 Gabriele Zaverio wrote: > >> I wanna get rid of it. It's unuseful and crappy. :( > > > > Uninstall it and configure alsa? > > yep, this is something I wanna do :) > > > Is your bt hardware up & running? > > Yes it is :) > > > What does hciconfig show? Did you also > > try to use bluetoothctl to associate your bt device with the PC? > > Yes, bluetoothctl associate it and it works. I'm just wondering how > can I have this automatically set up, without having to open terminal > and do the bluetoothctl stuff every time by hand. :) > > Maybe a pushbutton in E that I can press to associate this device, > launching the bluetoothctl shell command? OK, your problem seems simpler than mine because at least your PC hardware is more cooperative. ;-) Create a script which will run the stanzas required to enable your bt controller and associate it with the bt audio device. Make it executable. Then create a .desktop file in your ~/.local/share/applications/ and call the script from it, with e.g.: Exec=~/.myBTscript.sh -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Starting e with the correct access rights
On Monday 10 Apr 2017 20:15:07 Simon Lees wrote: > On 04/10/2017 07:55 PM, Mick wrote: > > On Monday 10 Apr 2017 18:41:05 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >> stuff used to be so much simpler 20 years abck. you just had your login > >> manger run ~/.xsession. this script would run your wm last without & > >> (with > >> exec before if u were smart) and anything u wanted launched on login > >> before > >> that in the script. > >> > >> today it's a forest of services and god knows what... > > > > Yes! Services, service prerequisites upon dependencies, environment > > parsers, etc, etc. > > > > Now that you're mentioning using 'exec', I recall reading in this M/L that > > /usr/bin/enlightenment_start does *not* need exec before it. Is this > > correct? > Are you running a policykit agent? If not that could cause some issues. > Under a systemd user session its done automatically for you but if not > you'll need another application. lxde has one that doesn't require many > deps https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Polkit#Authentication_agents > (there is a efl one listed but I doubt thats maintained well by anyone > as most don't need it). That will probably atleast fix your mount issues. I tried with and without polkit, with and without console-kit, but it made no difference. -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] bluetooth pairing without pulseaudio / automatic pairing?
On Monday 10 Apr 2017 12:32:35 Gabriele Zaverio wrote: > On 4/10/17, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > for pulse using cpu to mix... try edit /etc/pulseaudio/daemon.conf > > and change resample-method. try "trivial" instead of speex-float-1 > > I wanna get rid of it. It's unuseful and crappy. :( Not completely so. If you have multiple inputs it allows you to adjust volume per application that generates it. So music via media player can stay at background levels, while VoIP remains audible and desktop notifications don't make your ears bleed. :-) It doesn't always work as advertised on my desktop systems, but it's work in progress. > > and i know of no other way to just go redirect your audio from normal out > > to bt speakers other than to have a daemon in between do it... and that > > is what pulse is for. > > It was working without pulse some time ago, so why now I had to use > pulseshit? That's my question - how to get rid of it and use bluetooth > without it :) Uninstall it and configure alsa? > > you have bluez installed? i cont know what should cause connman to start > > offering bt as a connect option - i always say it listed if i had a bt > > device and bluez running... > > I have bluez and utils installed but nothing happens. bluetoothd is running. On some systems the bt hardware is not always happy to coexist with other USB controllers. I'm thinking of Broadcom which on my system at least requires me to use rfkill to block my WiFi, before bluetooth can be used! O_O Is your bt hardware up & running? What does hciconfig show? Did you also try to use bluetoothctl to associate your bt device with the PC? -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Starting e with the correct access rights
On Monday 10 Apr 2017 18:41:05 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > stuff used to be so much simpler 20 years abck. you just had your login > manger run ~/.xsession. this script would run your wm last without & (with > exec before if u were smart) and anything u wanted launched on login before > that in the script. > > today it's a forest of services and god knows what... Yes! Services, service prerequisites upon dependencies, environment parsers, etc, etc. Now that you're mentioning using 'exec', I recall reading in this M/L that /usr/bin/enlightenment_start does *not* need exec before it. Is this correct? -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Starting e with the correct access rights
Thanks Carsten for looking into this.
On Monday 10 Apr 2017 16:19:21 you wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 16:03:13 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've been launching enlightenment using SDDM for some years now without a
> > problem. Recently I updated sddm to 0.14.0-r2 and weird things started
> > happening. I was no longer able to mount USB sticks. A single attempt to
>
> something changed in sddm? :) i have no idea. never even heard of sddm... :)
It's just another DM which does not bring in a tonne of big desktop
dependencies. It was working fine here for a couple of years or so.
> > log out brings me straight back into my e desktop. A second attempt to
> > log out, logs me out as it should.
> >
> > Then I updated to sddm-0.14.0-r3 and now in addition e complains the
> > compositor cannot run with OpenGL and will fall back on software
> > rendering.
> >
> > :-/
>
> stop using sddm or go back to an older version? :( opengl could be due to
> changes in LD_LIBRARY_PATH that sddm could be modifying when it launches the
> login session. it could be due to ownership of /dev/dri/* or /dev/nvidia*
> device nodes? i don't know.
Interesting, I'll look into this.
> mounting and unmounting could be something else entirely... i'm not sure.
> could it be using cgroups, selinux or something else to deny access? i'm
> not sure.
>
> but what you had before did work going back to it should be the easiest
> path. :(
Yes, this was the first thing I tried to prove the point these anomalies were
introduced by the sddm package update alone and not something else on my
system.
> > Here's some errors from ~/.xession-errors:
> > ==
> > ERR<5100>:eina_safety lib/efreet/efreet_ini.c:299 efreet_ini_string_get()
> > safety check failed: ini->section == NULL
> >
> > (gkrellm:5117): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_box_reorder_child: assertion
> > 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (child)' failed
> > ERR<5141>:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:818 _props_get_all() Error
> > getting all properties of
> > org.freedesktop.UDisks2/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/s
> > da1, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user.
> > ==
> >
> >
> > Strangely, I have the same access rights symptoms if I try to login
> > without a DM, using 'startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start' on a console.
> >
> > This is what I have in my ~/.xsession file:
> > ===
> > cat ~/.xsession
> > #!/bin/sh
> > if [ -x /usr/bin/gpg-agent ]; then
> >
> > kill $(ps ux | awk '/gpg-agent/ && !/awk/ {print $2}') >/dev/null
> > 2>&1
> >
> > fi
> >
> > if [ -x /usr/bin/gpg-agent ]; then
> >
> > eval "$(/usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon)"
> >
> > fi
> >
> > if [ -x /usr/bin/urxvtd ]; then
> >
> > /usr/bin/urxvtd --opendisplay --fork --quiet
> >
> > fi
> >
> > /usr/bin/enlightenment_start
> >
> >
> > Using lightdm works as expected, I can login, OpenGL works, mounting USB
> > sticks works and log out only need to be activated once.
> >
> > I tried entrance some time ago, with mixed results, especially on shut
> > down - it would not return to a console. Also SLiM would fail to log me
> > in whatsoever, so I abandoned it.
> >
> > Any idea what is missing from my set up to cause these access rights
> > problems with sddm or using startx? What is considered a
> > distro-independent orthodox way to start e these days?
>
> dunno. maybe systemd related with the user session/logind? i am unsure how
> this might affect opengl access - it shoudn't... :/
Thanks Carsten, I am using openrc, instead of systemd. As I mentioned above I
reverted to the old sddm and it works as expected, so clearly the problem was
introduced with later versions of the sddm.
I am now running lightdm which solves these problems, but requires Gnome
dependencies to be installed. I am still curious why sddm, or running startx
from a console won't work as expected.
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Re: [e-users] Recommended applications...
On Friday 31 Mar 2017 10:16:44 Peter Flynn wrote: > On 31 March 2017 06:02:11 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:12:56 +0200 Pierre Couderc <pie...@couderc.eu> said: > >> For example : how to mount automatically a USB memory ? What app does > >> that ? > > > > e already does this but it mounts WHEN you open up the device in the > > filemanager. > > The real problems are: > > 1. Getting the system to recognise that.a USB stick has been plugged in. On > all the systems I have installed e on, this does not happen, although if I > log out and then log in with xfce, it then recognises when a USB stick is > inserted. Something in e defeats this, but I'm not skilled enough in > interrupt detection to know what or where to look. There should be an icon of a USB stick showing up on your desktop. If you click it the USB stick ought to be mounted and e's file manager window will open to show the file system of the mounted USB stick. When you close the eFM window it will also unmount the USB stick. The settings to achieve this (which I believe are the default settings) are as follows: Settings > Settings Panel > Files > File Manager > Device and select 'Show device icons on desktop'. You will need to have installed udisks2. > 2. Notifying the user. Even when the system recognises the insertion > (evidence: tail -f syslog), I have never seen e pop up anything to say a > USB stick has been inserted. I'm not sure where it would do notification, > especially when the dock at the bottom is slid down. Is it supposed to > raise it? I have no notifications here, other than a USB stick icon showing up on the desktop when a USB device is plugged in. > 3. Not all file managers are created equal. I can't use e's file manager > because black on dark grey is largely unreadable, and I haven't found any > way to make it show the file system hierarchy in a left-hand panel like > other FMs do. The default theme shows white characters on grey background. It is very readable. -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xdg-bs
On Monday 27 Mar 2017 20:47:29 Peter Flynn wrote: > On 03/27/2017 07:56 PM, Mick wrote: > > On Monday 27 Mar 2017 19:39:21 Peter Flynn wrote: > >> On 27/03/17 00:47, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 16:55:45 -0400 Christopher Barry > >>> > >>> <christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com> said: > >>>> Okay, this is annoying... > >>>> > >>>> claws-mail uses xdg-open to decide what app to use when opening files > >>>> (rather than 'alternatives', which is the standard Debian way to do > >>>> this), so clicking on a link in email always opens Chromium rather than > >>>> Firefox which is my system default browser. When I try to see/change it > >>>> in Enlightenment, I get the following. > >>>> > >>>> $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser > >>>> xdg-settings: unknown desktop environment > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Any ideas on how to change this setting to point to Firefox? > >>> > >>> settings -> apps -> default applications -> browser > >> > >> And does that *really* change xdg settings? > >> > >> The *big* problem for me is that when I click on a mailto: link in > >> chromium-browser, it just opens another browser window, or sometimes > >> pops up a window saying it wants to run some unspecified program > >> recommended by xdg, which never does anything. If anyone knows how to > >> force chromium-browser to open Thunderbird, I'd be grateful. > >> > >> ///Peter > > > > Have you tried setting something in Handlers to see if it takes? > > https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/114662?visit_id=0-636262376794060 > > 954-3121866498=ib_protocol_handler=2 > Unfortunately that's for requesting *web* services to respond to > protocol calls (eg make mailto: open Hotmail). It's set by default, but > it doesn't do anything that I can see for *programs* (eg Tbird). > > ///Peter Yes, I noticed the same just now. I cannot add anything to it ... I suspect Chromium/Chrome use xdg-open, so: 'xdg-mime query default message/rfc822' should show your default application for e.g. viewing messages. -- Regards, Mick -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xdg-bs
On Monday 27 Mar 2017 19:39:21 Peter Flynn wrote: > On 27/03/17 00:47, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 16:55:45 -0400 Christopher Barry > > > > <christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com> said: > >> Okay, this is annoying... > >> > >> claws-mail uses xdg-open to decide what app to use when opening files > >> (rather than 'alternatives', which is the standard Debian way to do > >> this), so clicking on a link in email always opens Chromium rather than > >> Firefox which is my system default browser. When I try to see/change it > >> in Enlightenment, I get the following. > >> > >> $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser > >> xdg-settings: unknown desktop environment > >> > >> > >> Any ideas on how to change this setting to point to Firefox? > > > > settings -> apps -> default applications -> browser > > And does that *really* change xdg settings? > > The *big* problem for me is that when I click on a mailto: link in > chromium-browser, it just opens another browser window, or sometimes > pops up a window saying it wants to run some unspecified program > recommended by xdg, which never does anything. If anyone knows how to > force chromium-browser to open Thunderbird, I'd be grateful. > > ///Peter Have you tried setting something in Handlers to see if it takes? https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/114662?visit_id=0-636262376794060954-3121866498=ib_protocol_handler=2 -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Starting e with the correct access rights
Hi All,
I've been launching enlightenment using SDDM for some years now without a
problem. Recently I updated sddm to 0.14.0-r2 and weird things started
happening. I was no longer able to mount USB sticks. A single attempt to log
out brings me straight back into my e desktop. A second attempt to log out,
logs me out as it should.
Then I updated to sddm-0.14.0-r3 and now in addition e complains the
compositor cannot run with OpenGL and will fall back on software rendering.
:-/
Here's some errors from ~/.xession-errors:
==
ERR<5100>:eina_safety lib/efreet/efreet_ini.c:299 efreet_ini_string_get()
safety check failed: ini->section == NULL
(gkrellm:5117): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_box_reorder_child: assertion
'GTK_IS_WIDGET (child)' failed
ERR<5141>:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:818 _props_get_all() Error getting
all properties of
org.freedesktop.UDisks2/org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/s
da1, error message: org.enlightenment.DBus.Canceled Canceled by user.
==
Strangely, I have the same access rights symptoms if I try to login without a
DM, using 'startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start' on a console.
This is what I have in my ~/.xsession file:
===
cat ~/.xsession
#!/bin/sh
if [ -x /usr/bin/gpg-agent ]; then
kill $(ps ux | awk '/gpg-agent/ && !/awk/ {print $2}') >/dev/null 2>&1
fi
if [ -x /usr/bin/gpg-agent ]; then
eval "$(/usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon)"
fi
if [ -x /usr/bin/urxvtd ]; then
/usr/bin/urxvtd --opendisplay --fork --quiet
fi
/usr/bin/enlightenment_start
Using lightdm works as expected, I can login, OpenGL works, mounting USB
sticks works and log out only need to be activated once.
I tried entrance some time ago, with mixed results, especially on shut down -
it would not return to a console. Also SLiM would fail to log me in
whatsoever, so I abandoned it.
Any idea what is missing from my set up to cause these access rights problems
with sddm or using startx? What is considered a distro-independent orthodox
way to start e these days?
PS. I am running e-0.21.7 with efl-1.18.4 on different gentoo systems.
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Re: [e-users] Acpi events
On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 21:49:00 Massimo Maiurana wrote: > Massimo Maiurana ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 14:29: > > Mick ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 13:23: > >> On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 09:44:23 Massimo Maiurana wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> I finally bought a brand new laptop :) > >>> > >>> Of course I installed E, building from source as I've always did but I > >>> have two problems to solve. > >>> > >>> The first is regarding acpi events: closing lid the laptop should > >>> suspend, and indeed it is what happens under gnome (there also lid open > >>> resumes it) but does not happen under E. Acpid is not installed so > >>> probably that's what I need, but I wonder why it works in gnome. > >> > >> I don't run gnome, but from a more generic perspective you will need to > >> install acpid and make sure it is running as a service when you boot up. > >> Closing the lid then generates an event captured by acpid which by > >> default > >> will suspend to ram. Check what you have at Settings > Settings Panel > > >> Input>> > >>> ACPI Bindings > Lid Closed. I have set mine to 'Suspend Intelligently' > >>> and > >> > >> it works as advertised. > > > > Hmh, well, i'm not sure acpid is required for this to work. I think > > acpid is for managing acpi events, not for exposing them, or lid close > > wouldn't work even under other environments. I'll try installing it and > > see if it solves the problem. > > Well, I installed acpid, now lid events are recognized but an old issue > is back: dpms. > Before installing acpid screen blanking did work as expected, after > reaching timeout the screen was really blanked out, with acpid installed > the backlight is never turned off so it is more an obscuring than a > blanking. Indeed "xset q" says that dmps is off :/ I've also come across this a couple of times. I had to Disable Screen Blanking, log off/on then re-enable it. Then xset reported 'DPMS is Enabled'. -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Acpi events
On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 14:29:13 Massimo Maiurana wrote: > Mick ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 13:23: > > On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 09:44:23 Massimo Maiurana wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I finally bought a brand new laptop :) > >> > >> Of course I installed E, building from source as I've always did but I > >> have two problems to solve. > >> > >> The first is regarding acpi events: closing lid the laptop should > >> suspend, and indeed it is what happens under gnome (there also lid open > >> resumes it) but does not happen under E. Acpid is not installed so > >> probably that's what I need, but I wonder why it works in gnome. > > > > I don't run gnome, but from a more generic perspective you will need to > > install acpid and make sure it is running as a service when you boot up. > > Closing the lid then generates an event captured by acpid which by default > > will suspend to ram. Check what you have at Settings > Settings Panel > > > Input> > >> ACPI Bindings > Lid Closed. I have set mine to 'Suspend Intelligently' > >> and it works as advertised. > > Hmh, well, i'm not sure acpid is required for this to work. I think > acpid is for managing acpi events, not for exposing them, or lid close > wouldn't work even under other environments. I'll try installing it and > see if it solves the problem. acpid is required to capture the event and run a script to suspend the OS. On my system the script is within /etc/acpi/default.sh. If acpid daemon is not running then what will run the suspend command? > >> The second is about icons: Applications menu is full populated with all > >> applications, including my own in ~/.local/share/applications, but only > >> 3 of them have an icon associated (a custom of mine, gnome-font-viewer > >> and the E filemanager). Also, much more annoying, evry doesn't list > >> desktop applications in the list that appears when I start typing, only > >> executables and directories are listed. > > > > Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings > Applications, should give you > > some options. One of these ought to make all/most application icons to > > show up. Also check Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings > > > Miscellaneous, does not have 'Disable icons in menus' selected. > > I DO have applications in menu, my problem is not that. What I miss is > icons for applications, but for that three applications mentioned above > that have an icon in their own menu entry. If "disable icons" was > checked I wouldn't have any icon neither for those three ;) I beg your pardon, I meant to say look in Settings > Settings Panel > Look > Application Theme, and choose a theme that makes most of your apps to display with icons. -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Acpi events
On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 09:44:23 Massimo Maiurana wrote: > Hi, > I finally bought a brand new laptop :) > > Of course I installed E, building from source as I've always did but I > have two problems to solve. > > The first is regarding acpi events: closing lid the laptop should > suspend, and indeed it is what happens under gnome (there also lid open > resumes it) but does not happen under E. Acpid is not installed so > probably that's what I need, but I wonder why it works in gnome. I don't run gnome, but from a more generic perspective you will need to install acpid and make sure it is running as a service when you boot up. Closing the lid then generates an event captured by acpid which by default will suspend to ram. Check what you have at Settings > Settings Panel > Input > ACPI Bindings > Lid Closed. I have set mine to 'Suspend Intelligently' and it works as advertised. > The second is about icons: Applications menu is full populated with all > applications, including my own in ~/.local/share/applications, but only > 3 of them have an icon associated (a custom of mine, gnome-font-viewer > and the E filemanager). Also, much more annoying, evry doesn't list > desktop applications in the list that appears when I start typing, only > executables and directories are listed. Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings > Applications, should give you some options. One of these ought to make all/most application icons to show up. Also check Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings > Miscellaneous, does not have 'Disable icons in menus' selected. To configure Everything, check your settings under Settings > Settings Panel > Launcher. HTH :-) -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Extra release
On Wednesday 15 Feb 2017 10:35:15 marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:09:13PM -0500, Christopher Barry wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:34:47 +0100 > > > > marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: > > >https://extra.enlightenment.org > > > > very cool > > > > but needs //way// bigger (and more) images of all the themes... > > > > the image, when the thumbnail is clicked, needs to expand to the size of > > a desktop, e.g. 1920x1200 or wider and very high resolution. > > dual-and-triple-head screenshots in e are really cool. select 'perfect' > > when saving them. yeah, they're fat... TFB! It's the only way to > > experience these things. :) > > > > But it's a great idea that's way overdue, and it's a great beginning. > > I for one am glad you are taking on this challenge in a very creative > > way. > > Cool to see that you like it! > > I am not sure if you mean the app or the website, the app can handle > that "fullscreen" display of the preview, the website sadly not. > > I try to collect bring more content to the website in the next few > weeks, if you have good looking, working themes, let me know :) > > > Cheers, Excellent! Thank you for this. :-) -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Extra release
On Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 11:38:30 marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: > It finally happened! > > There is a 0.0.1 release of extra! Great! Err .. what is it? > https://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/extra/extra-0.0.1.tar.bz2 > md5sum: 2df432ee1c874560dd30421c9299de2d > > https://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/extra/extra-0.0.1.tar.gz > md5sum: 16b8bfd2eed180f56e5d24fcf9a1da3e > > If there are any problems or bugs, give us a ticket on phabricator. > https://phab.enlightenment.org/project/profile/135/ > > Greetings, >Marcel Hollerbach > > > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] how to start enlightenment ? (from debian experimental)
On Saturday 04 Feb 2017 11:25:19 Christopher Barry wrote: > On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 22:40:34 +0900 > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > >On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 07:04:15 +0100 nous <pie...@couderc.eu> said: > >> OK, Thank you. > >> > >> I thought that with wayland, X was not necessary > > > >for wayland mode - yes. just enlightenment_start will do the job. of > >course this requires systemd (and a logind login session) to be able > >to get permission to the right devices... :) > > As an aside, does Enlightenment /depend/ upon systemd if not in > wayland mode? No, I 've been running it here with OpenRC on Gentoo, very nicely. :-) -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Screen blanking ... but backlight stays on
On Wednesday 04 Jan 2017 21:23:26 Massimo Maiurana wrote: > I have the same problem but checking and unchecking those options > doesn't solve it; I always have Dpms disabled at startup and need to > activate it by hand :( > > If I run Gnome Dpms is instead enabled, and I run the same apps both > under E and under Gnome. What can disable it, or fail to enable it? Did you (re)move ~/.e/e/config/standard/content.txt, or ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg to see if you are able to disable, apply and then enable, apply the Settings/Screen/Blanking/Blanking/'Enable screen blanking'? That's what fixed my problem. -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] KDE apps window sizing in enlightenment
On Friday 30 Dec 2016 21:19:40 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:26:43 +0000 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > On Friday 30 Dec 2016 11:32:30 you wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:41:21 + Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > > I have observed a really annoying behaviour with some KDE > > > > applications: > > > > > > > > If I maximise the window of e.g. kwrite, then unmaximise it back to > > > > its > > > > normal state and close it, the next time I launch this application it > > > > will > > > > always be launched in a maximised state, taking up the whole monitor. > > > > > > > > Using the window bar to unmaximise it, either clicking on the top > > > > right > > > > 'v' > > > > icon, or top left Window/Maximize/Unmaximise will resize the window, > > > > and > > > > place it at the top left of the monitor with the window bar pushed off > > > > the > > > > monitor. I have to use Alt+Left Click to drag it further down the > > > > screen > > > > and make the window bar visible again. > > > > > > > > Once in a while this behaviour will stop unpredictably and the window > > > > when > > > > launched will be normal size - unmaximised. However, if I maximise at > > > > any > > > > time it will always return to this annoying fully maximised size every > > > > time > > > > it is launched again, for the foreseeable future. > > > > > > > > Why is this happening and how can I reset the size of these KDE app > > > > windows > > > > so this sticky maximisation does not happen? I have tried various > > > > Remember > > > > settings and nothing sticks. > > > > > > i think you will find the app is saving its last state and trying to > > > restore it on start. this is supremely annoying and in the past i have > > > used e's locks and remembers. > > > > > > 1. tell e to remember the window (eg position and size) AND rememeber > > > locks > > > 2. set up locks to "disallow app from moving/resizing/maximizing" etc. > > > > > > and watch the problems go away. :) give it a try. this is precisely why > > > e > > > has these features - to let you spank badly behaving apps and send them > > > to > > > bed without supper. :) > > > > Thank you Carsten! :-) > > > > I had to select both Remember and Lock for Program Position, Size and > > Maximised state. After that the size change was retained. On my current > > version the setting "disallow app from moving/resizing/maximizing" is not > > there. > > under "window locks" > > go to advanced. > under program locks > select position, size, maximized state > > :) Yes, that's how I cured this annoyance. :-) I also selected, 'Remember these locks'. -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Screen blanking ... but backlight stays on
On Friday 30 Dec 2016 14:09:34 you wrote: > On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:04:56 +0000 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > On Thursday 29 Dec 2016 08:54:54 Mick wrote: > > > I've ran xset +dpms for now, but why would not enlightenment restore it? > > > > Hmm ... it didn't survive a reboot. :-( > > perhaps you have something else messing with the dpms values. here it alwasy > sets up on boot/reboot and enable presentation mode then disable again and > everything is set correctly (dpms enabled, standby/suspend/off times are > correct, screensaver is on with correct timeout). i can't reproduce your > issues here with e from git (and efl too). I've also used vbetool to set DPMS, but it I found out DPMS disabled when I rebooted. I've never had this before. I wonder if something in the .e/ configuration went sideways. So, I removed content.txt and rebooted. DPMS was still switched off. Then I used the Settings Panel/Screen/Screen Blanking and set blanking off, applied it, then set it on again and applied it once more. What do you know ... now it is set to on and it sticks between reboots. Problem solved. :-) -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] KDE apps window sizing in enlightenment
On Friday 30 Dec 2016 11:32:30 you wrote: > On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:41:21 +0000 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > I have observed a really annoying behaviour with some KDE applications: > > > > If I maximise the window of e.g. kwrite, then unmaximise it back to its > > normal state and close it, the next time I launch this application it will > > always be launched in a maximised state, taking up the whole monitor. > > > > Using the window bar to unmaximise it, either clicking on the top right > > 'v' > > icon, or top left Window/Maximize/Unmaximise will resize the window, and > > place it at the top left of the monitor with the window bar pushed off the > > monitor. I have to use Alt+Left Click to drag it further down the screen > > and make the window bar visible again. > > > > Once in a while this behaviour will stop unpredictably and the window when > > launched will be normal size - unmaximised. However, if I maximise at any > > time it will always return to this annoying fully maximised size every > > time > > it is launched again, for the foreseeable future. > > > > Why is this happening and how can I reset the size of these KDE app > > windows > > so this sticky maximisation does not happen? I have tried various > > Remember > > settings and nothing sticks. > > i think you will find the app is saving its last state and trying to restore > it on start. this is supremely annoying and in the past i have used e's > locks and remembers. > > 1. tell e to remember the window (eg position and size) AND rememeber locks > 2. set up locks to "disallow app from moving/resizing/maximizing" etc. > > and watch the problems go away. :) give it a try. this is precisely why e > has these features - to let you spank badly behaving apps and send them to > bed without supper. :) Thank you Carsten! :-) I had to select both Remember and Lock for Program Position, Size and Maximised state. After that the size change was retained. On my current version the setting "disallow app from moving/resizing/maximizing" is not there. The only thing is that Gwenview in particular would normally auto-resize to fit the image being opened 1:1, as long as the size of the image was smaller than the maximised size of the application window. For some months now Gwenview would always open in full size, which was annoying. Now it will always open on the Remember(ed) size. Perhaps I'm asking too much for such temperamental applications, but is there a way to make it resize to fit the image being opened, but not default to a fully maximised size when the image is smaller? -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Screen blanking ... but backlight stays on
On Thursday 29 Dec 2016 08:54:54 Mick wrote: > On Thursday 29 Dec 2016 10:15:55 you wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:59:27 + Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > A couple of days ago I selected Settings/Modes/Presentation because I > > > wanted to watch a video and mpv would not stop the warning for the > > > screen > > > blanking coming on. > > > > i don't know about mpv... but rage requests to suspend blanking while > > fullscreen... so you don't need to know or care... :) > > > > > After I finished watching the video I unset the Presentation selection. > > > Now screen blanking takes place as it should, but the backlight stays on > > > and the mouse cursor remains visible. The warning never pops up as it > > > used to. I tried different things but cannot reset it to how it was as > > > a > > > default. > > > > sounds like dpms is not kicking in anymore. odd. > > Yes, this was the cause: > > $ xset q | grep DPMS > DPMS (Energy Star): > DPMS is Disabled > > > > How can I put it all back as it was? > > I've ran xset +dpms for now, but why would not enlightenment restore it? Hmm ... it didn't survive a reboot. :-( -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] KDE apps window sizing in enlightenment
I have observed a really annoying behaviour with some KDE applications: If I maximise the window of e.g. kwrite, then unmaximise it back to its normal state and close it, the next time I launch this application it will always be launched in a maximised state, taking up the whole monitor. Using the window bar to unmaximise it, either clicking on the top right 'v' icon, or top left Window/Maximize/Unmaximise will resize the window, and place it at the top left of the monitor with the window bar pushed off the monitor. I have to use Alt+Left Click to drag it further down the screen and make the window bar visible again. Once in a while this behaviour will stop unpredictably and the window when launched will be normal size - unmaximised. However, if I maximise at any time it will always return to this annoying fully maximised size every time it is launched again, for the foreseeable future. Why is this happening and how can I reset the size of these KDE app windows so this sticky maximisation does not happen? I have tried various Remember settings and nothing sticks. -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Screen blanking ... but backlight stays on
A couple of days ago I selected Settings/Modes/Presentation because I wanted to watch a video and mpv would not stop the warning for the screen blanking coming on. After I finished watching the video I unset the Presentation selection. Now screen blanking takes place as it should, but the backlight stays on and the mouse cursor remains visible. The warning never pops up as it used to. I tried different things but cannot reset it to how it was as a default. How can I put it all back as it was? -- Regards, Mick-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Bluetooth gadget doesn't work
On Saturday 24 Dec 2016 09:40:02 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:01:56 + Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said: > > On 12/23/2016 05:51 PM, MHD wrote: > > > Ok, but how to integrate blueberry or blueman bluetooth front-ends into > > > systray? In general how to integrate an app (skype, weather, new email > > > animation, etc) which is developed to work in systray? > > > > /begin rant > > > > In all these years I have never found any Linux system that works with > > any BT device. Either the toolbar icon is absent, or inactive, or simply > > doesn't respond to anything, claims there are no BT devices in range, > > scans but fails to find them, claims it can't connect, and provides no > > facilities to see what services are offered. > > > > /end rant :-) BT is basically a dead duck on Linux, which is a pity. > > it worked for me with bluez4 until bluez5 broke api. Yes, since bluez5 it's a CLI job to get it working for me. Various incantations of modprob, rfkill, hciconfig and bluetoothctl usually get me there. -- Regards, Mick-- Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today.http://sdm.link/intel___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] konsole window stuck maximised
On Monday 27 Jun 2016 09:34:31 you wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:11:52 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > On Saturday 25 Jun 2016 16:19:46 Mick wrote: > > > On Saturday 25 Jun 2016 22:41:41 Dave wrote: > > > > That'll be the fault of the application, not the window manager. > > > > Deleting > > > > > > > > your konsole config file would be more effective than deleting E cache > > > > files. Preferably not from the konsole itself. > > > > > > I have already removed the .kde4/share/config/konsolerc file with no > > > effect.> > > > > :-( > > > > Hmm ... after a lot of playing around with maximise/left/horizontal/right > > and so on and setting and unsetting variours Remembers it has eventually > > taken! o_O > > if e didnt have any remembers, then e wouldnt be making it maximize4d. i've > seen this with crhomium. it tries to remember itself and on startup it > requests to be maximized every single time. getting it to forget this > maximimzed state is a matter of pure luck. Yes! Chromium is the other application which is a pain. If I maximise it and then close it without first minimising it, it get stuck. I recall it getting stuck maximised horizontally. Then it will annoy me for days on end until it eventually gets unstuck. Chromium has a bug that makes it crash and this usually results in getting it unstuck. konsole does not get stuck often, so I couldn't rely on such a superior mechanism for it to fix itself. :p -- Regards, Mick-- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] konsole window stuck maximised
On Saturday 25 Jun 2016 16:19:46 Mick wrote: > On Saturday 25 Jun 2016 22:41:41 Dave wrote: > > That'll be the fault of the application, not the window manager. > > Deleting > > > > your konsole config file would be more effective than deleting E cache > > files. Preferably not from the konsole itself. > > I have already removed the .kde4/share/config/konsolerc file with no effect. > :-( Hmm ... after a lot of playing around with maximise/left/horizontal/right and so on and setting and unsetting variours Remembers it has eventually taken! o_O -- Regards, Mick-- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] konsole window stuck maximised
On Saturday 25 Jun 2016 22:41:41 Dave wrote: > That'll be the fault of the application, not the window manager. Deleting > your konsole config file would be more effective than deleting E cache > files. Preferably not from the konsole itself. I have already removed the .kde4/share/config/konsolerc file with no effect. :-( -- Regards, Mick-- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] konsole window stuck maximised
I've noticed this with other applications too, but in this instance konsole is stuck into maximised size covering the whole desktop. I can't recall with certainty when this started, but it may have been when I maximised it to look at some log file. Now the user complains that their konsole is *always* miximised when they start konsole. I tried setting and unsetting various Remembers, but it won't take. Is there some cached file I could delete which will affect only this window? -- Regards, Mick-- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Remember window size is inherited by pop ups
On Tuesday 21 Jun 2016 08:09:16 Dave wrote: > Try using a different identifier to remember by? I'm guessing you're using > Window class. Yes, good guess! ;-) I'll try Window name next. Thank you. -- Regards, Mick-- Attend Shape: An AT Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT Park in San Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries present their vision of the future. This family event has something for everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. http://sdm.link/attshape___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Remember window size is inherited by pop ups
I have observed this annoying side effect: Setting up the Thunderbird window to be Remembered on a particular virtual desktop, in terms of size and position, means that any pop up windows which ought to be smaller (like notifications for sending a message) are full size like the main Thunderbird window. How can I keep the pop ups from inheriting the main application window's Remember settings? -- Regards, Mick-- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://sdm.link/zohomanageengine___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Delay and notification when shutting down enlightenment
On Tuesday 14 Jun 2016 08:59:40 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:57:05 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > On Monday 13 Jun 2016 15:10:41 you wrote: > > > On Sat, 28 May 2016 14:02:25 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > It used to be that e17 would warn the user if other apps were running > > > > when > > > > a shutdown command was issued. It still pops up but it does not wait > > > > long enough for the user to save their work, or shutdown the > > > > individual > > > > applications which may be running. Is there a way to adjust this so > > > > that > > > > the shutdown stops or is delayed for a number of seconds? > > > > > > errr wait. when you log out/shut down e will close every window nicely > > > then > > > wait some time. i think its either 10, 20 or 30sec from memory. if all > > > windows go before this timeout, then e will just log out/shut down there > > > and then. if windows are still around after being asked to close after > > > this > > > timeout the logout/shutdown will be "aborted" with a dialog telling you > > > windows are still around and if you wont to log out now anyway > > > regardless > > > or cancel (cancel lets you go address the windows that wont close > > > nicely). > > > > > > there was never a timeout to let YOU go close things... ? > > > > OK, I had a konsole open and firefox with a number of tabs, but there was > > no notification to give me a chance to abort, or wait. Within a couple > > seconds and before I had a chance to stop the shutdown, it was all gone. > > :-( > you never have the chance... as long as the windows can be closed. normally > for me it happens nigh instantly and then everything just shuts down. > > you are given a dialog and option to do something if windows refuse to close > after being asked to... OK I got it now, thanks Carsten. -- Regards, Mick-- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] can't make new launchers in IBAR
On Tuesday 07 Jun 2016 08:54:21 Daniel Kasak wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Larry Wyble <llwy...@suddenlink.net> wrote: > > I am trying to make an ICON/launcher for a bash script file. Try that > > with your methods. > > Done. I write some database-centric apps at work ( ETL framework, > config utilities, packaging & release utilities ), and use a bash > script to launch them. I have an icon for each, and they sit in my > ibar: > http://tesla.duckdns.org/images/smart-etl-icon.jpg > > > And if you can PLEASE let me know how. > > Done. > > Dan Larry, it has already been suggested that your ~/.local/applications/mysrcipt.desktop file may have the wrong syntax or some error, so check this first. Then go to the iBar icon for your script, right click on 'Icon ' and then check under Basic/Application you have the correct syntax and under General/Desktop file you point to your ~/.local/applications/.desktop. Also check that your script file is executable by your user. That's how it has worked here for years. -- Regards, Mick-- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Delay and notification when shutting down enlightenment
Hi All, It used to be that e17 would warn the user if other apps were running when a shutdown command was issued. It still pops up but it does not wait long enough for the user to save their work, or shutdown the individual applications which may be running. Is there a way to adjust this so that the shutdown stops or is delayed for a number of seconds? -- Regards, Mick-- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] libeina and efreet errors
On Sunday 22 May 2016 12:21:20 you wrote: > > I have uploaded the .xsession-error here, because it is rather long: > > > > http://pastebin.com/RCp5NRZQ > > > > It sure goes through a loop again and again, but I am not sure why it > > does > > this ... > > > > Grateful for any pointers. > > err. what loop where?it starts up - does stuff... and quiets down. i dont > see endless looping... Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that there was endless looping, but it does complain a few times about xrandr 'screen config loop!' errors. It seems to be evaluating the monitor settings a number of times in a row, before it spews out an error; e.g. lines 206 to 423? I'm not bothered about it, as it does not interfere with launching and using e20, but I'm just trying to understand what's happening there. ;-) -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] libeina and efreet errors
On Saturday 21 May 2016 11:57:47 Mick wrote: > On Saturday 21 May 2016 17:45:13 you wrote: > > On Sat, 21 May 2016 08:53:03 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > On Saturday 21 May 2016 13:34:37 you wrote: > > > > your screen setup config has a screen depending on itself eg > > > > > > > > VGA1 right of VGA1 > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > VGA1 rightof HDMI0 > > > > HDMI0 right of VGA1 > > > > > > > > ... loop. it detects and breaks out. > > > > > > Hmm ... I must have defined the two monitors the wrong way then. :-/ > > > > > > I had set up DVI-0 as 'none' and HDMI-0 as 'right of' DVI-0. DVI-0 is > > > the > > > primary monitor and this is the way I always remember setting them up. > > > In > > > previous versions I recall a graphical GUI to set them up by dragging > > > them > > > around. > > > > > > I have now set up DVI-0 'left of' HDMI-0 and HDMI-0 'right of' DVI-0. > > > Is > > > this the correct way to set them up? Specifying each of them in > > > relation > > > to the other? > > > > you NOw do have a loop. a depends on b. b depends on a... > > OK, so I reverted to how I had it originally configured: > > DVI-0 none > HDMI-0 right of DVI-0 > > > it's found some kind of loop. i'ts recursing too far and is stopping > > itself. either way it's handled nicely and doesnt cause any issues > > generally unless you notice screens not being configured - then it may be > > due to a loop. > The screens are being configured and I can use them nicely, but I still get > this :e src/bin/e_randr2.c:867 _screen_config_do() screen config loop! > xsession-error. > > I tried with a different user account and I am getting the same error. I have uploaded the .xsession-error here, because it is rather long: http://pastebin.com/RCp5NRZQ It sure goes through a loop again and again, but I am not sure why it does this ... Grateful for any pointers. -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment shutdown scripts
On Saturday 21 May 2016 11:22:08 you wrote: > On Saturday 21 May 2016 11:11:01 Mick wrote: > > On Saturday 21 May 2016 17:42:51 you wrote: > > > On Sat, 21 May 2016 08:04:08 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > > On Saturday 21 May 2016 13:35:57 you wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 20 May 2016 23:59:30 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> > > > > said: > > > > > > I run kmail with its akonadi database and noticed that if I shut > > > > > > down > > > > > > kmail > > > > > > and then log out from elightenment, akonadi which does not > > > > > > shutdown > > > > > > with > > > > > > kmail, crashes. Where can I add a shutdown script so that before > > > > > > enlightenment exits akonadi can shutdown gracefully, wait for a > > > > > > couple > > > > > > of > > > > > > seconds and then enlightenment finally exits? > > > > > > > > > > no - no shutdown directory. only start and restart. > > > > > > > > > > if you shutdown or logout e will close every window "nicely". if a > > > > > window > > > > > refuses to close (and has asked for a delete request and e sent that > > > > > with no responds for a while) e will complain and let you know. > > > > > > > > The thing is akonadi is running as a service between kmail or similar > > > > PIM > > > > applications and the back end database server (mysql of postgresql). > > > > So > > > > it > > > > is not a window as such to be shut down. Is there another way I could > > > > achieve this? > > > > > > i was letting you know so you can perhaps change to something that has a > > > window - it is shut down nicely then. :) > > > > > > you could simply use a ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc file to launch > > > enlightenment_start and then after enlightenment_start exits do whatever > > > you like: > > > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > enlightenment_start > > > killall whatever-daemon > > > > > > :) > > > > Thanks Carsten, I am using sddm as a display manager, which I understand > > uses the contents of /usr/share/xsessions to start enlightenment with. > > Could I set up in /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop something > > like > > this? > > > > [snip...] > > Icon=/usr/share/enlightenment/data/images/enlightenment.png > > TryExec='/usr/bin/enlightenment_start && /usr/bin/akonadictl stop && wait > > 3' Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start > > > > Will this stop akonadi and wait for three seconds before it exits > > enlightenment? > > OK, this seems to be working: > > TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start "&" /usr/bin/akonadictl stop "&" wait 3 Hmm ... upon closer inspection, it doesn't; e.g. KCrash: Attempting to start directly ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher' returned with exit code 1 (Unknown error) KCrash failed to exec(), errno = 2 KCrash failed to exec(), errno = 2 KCrash failed to exec(), errno = 2 ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_migration_agent' returned with exit code 253 (Unknown error) Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyakonadi_imap_resource: cannot connect to X server :0.0 ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_mailfilter_agent' returned with exit code 253 (Unknown error) Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyakonadi_maildispatcher_agent: cannot connect to X server :0.0 ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_imap_resource' returned with exit code 1 (Unknown error) "/usr/bin/akonadi_imap_resource" crashed too often and will not be restarted! akonadi_birthdays_resource(17434)/kdeui (kdelibs): Session bus not found To circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash) export $(dbus-launch) ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_sendlater_agent' returned with exit code 253 (Unknown error) KCrash: Application 'akonadi_birthdays_resource' crashing... KCrash: Attempting to start from kdeinit I think the PIM client closes and akonadi is trying to re-establish a connection to it, but various sockets are no longer there. It tries a few times and then it crashes. I hope this won't lead to a database corruption. -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] libeina and efreet errors
On Saturday 21 May 2016 17:45:13 you wrote: > On Sat, 21 May 2016 08:53:03 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > On Saturday 21 May 2016 13:34:37 you wrote: > > > your screen setup config has a screen depending on itself eg > > > > > > VGA1 right of VGA1 > > > > > > or > > > > > > VGA1 rightof HDMI0 > > > HDMI0 right of VGA1 > > > > > > ... loop. it detects and breaks out. > > > > Hmm ... I must have defined the two monitors the wrong way then. :-/ > > > > I had set up DVI-0 as 'none' and HDMI-0 as 'right of' DVI-0. DVI-0 is the > > primary monitor and this is the way I always remember setting them up. In > > previous versions I recall a graphical GUI to set them up by dragging them > > around. > > > > I have now set up DVI-0 'left of' HDMI-0 and HDMI-0 'right of' DVI-0. Is > > this the correct way to set them up? Specifying each of them in relation > > to the other? > > you NOw do have a loop. a depends on b. b depends on a... OK, so I reverted to how I had it originally configured: DVI-0 none HDMI-0 right of DVI-0 > it's found some kind of loop. i'ts recursing too far and is stopping itself. > either way it's handled nicely and doesnt cause any issues generally unless > you notice screens not being configured - then it may be due to a loop. The screens are being configured and I can use them nicely, but I still get this :e src/bin/e_randr2.c:867 _screen_config_do() screen config loop! xsession-error. I tried with a different user account and I am getting the same error. -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment shutdown scripts
On Saturday 21 May 2016 11:11:01 Mick wrote: > On Saturday 21 May 2016 17:42:51 you wrote: > > On Sat, 21 May 2016 08:04:08 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > On Saturday 21 May 2016 13:35:57 you wrote: > > > > On Fri, 20 May 2016 23:59:30 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> > > said: > > > > > I run kmail with its akonadi database and noticed that if I shut > > > > > down > > > > > kmail > > > > > and then log out from elightenment, akonadi which does not shutdown > > > > > with > > > > > kmail, crashes. Where can I add a shutdown script so that before > > > > > enlightenment exits akonadi can shutdown gracefully, wait for a > > > > > couple > > > > > of > > > > > seconds and then enlightenment finally exits? > > > > > > > > no - no shutdown directory. only start and restart. > > > > > > > > if you shutdown or logout e will close every window "nicely". if a > > > > window > > > > refuses to close (and has asked for a delete request and e sent that > > > > with no responds for a while) e will complain and let you know. > > > > > > The thing is akonadi is running as a service between kmail or similar > > > PIM > > > applications and the back end database server (mysql of postgresql). So > > > it > > > is not a window as such to be shut down. Is there another way I could > > > achieve this? > > > > i was letting you know so you can perhaps change to something that has a > > window - it is shut down nicely then. :) > > > > you could simply use a ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc file to launch > > enlightenment_start and then after enlightenment_start exits do whatever > > you like: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > enlightenment_start > > killall whatever-daemon > > > > :) > > Thanks Carsten, I am using sddm as a display manager, which I understand > uses the contents of /usr/share/xsessions to start enlightenment with. > Could I set up in /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop something like > this? > > [snip...] > Icon=/usr/share/enlightenment/data/images/enlightenment.png > TryExec='/usr/bin/enlightenment_start && /usr/bin/akonadictl stop && wait 3' > Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start > > Will this stop akonadi and wait for three seconds before it exits > enlightenment? OK, this seems to be working: TryExec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start "&" /usr/bin/akonadictl stop "&" wait 3 -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment shutdown scripts
On Saturday 21 May 2016 17:42:51 you wrote: > On Sat, 21 May 2016 08:04:08 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > On Saturday 21 May 2016 13:35:57 you wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 May 2016 23:59:30 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > > I run kmail with its akonadi database and noticed that if I shut down > > > > kmail > > > > and then log out from elightenment, akonadi which does not shutdown > > > > with > > > > kmail, crashes. Where can I add a shutdown script so that before > > > > enlightenment exits akonadi can shutdown gracefully, wait for a couple > > > > of > > > > seconds and then enlightenment finally exits? > > > > > > no - no shutdown directory. only start and restart. > > > > > > if you shutdown or logout e will close every window "nicely". if a > > > window > > > refuses to close (and has asked for a delete request and e sent that > > > with no responds for a while) e will complain and let you know. > > > > The thing is akonadi is running as a service between kmail or similar PIM > > applications and the back end database server (mysql of postgresql). So > > it > > is not a window as such to be shut down. Is there another way I could > > achieve this? > > i was letting you know so you can perhaps change to something that has a > window - it is shut down nicely then. :) > > you could simply use a ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc file to launch > enlightenment_start and then after enlightenment_start exits do whatever you > like: > > #!/bin/sh > enlightenment_start > killall whatever-daemon > > :) Thanks Carsten, I am using sddm as a display manager, which I understand uses the contents of /usr/share/xsessions to start enlightenment with. Could I set up in /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop something like this? [snip...] Icon=/usr/share/enlightenment/data/images/enlightenment.png TryExec='/usr/bin/enlightenment_start && /usr/bin/akonadictl stop && wait 3' Exec=/usr/bin/enlightenment_start Will this stop akonadi and wait for three seconds before it exits enlightenment? -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] libeina and efreet errors
On Saturday 21 May 2016 13:34:37 you wrote: > your screen setup config has a screen depending on itself eg > > VGA1 right of VGA1 > > or > > VGA1 rightof HDMI0 > HDMI0 right of VGA1 > > ... loop. it detects and breaks out. Hmm ... I must have defined the two monitors the wrong way then. :-/ I had set up DVI-0 as 'none' and HDMI-0 as 'right of' DVI-0. DVI-0 is the primary monitor and this is the way I always remember setting them up. In previous versions I recall a graphical GUI to set them up by dragging them around. I have now set up DVI-0 'left of' HDMI-0 and HDMI-0 'right of' DVI-0. Is this the correct way to set them up? Specifying each of them in relation to the other? BTW, I'm guessing that Lid/Lid events do not need to be selected on a desktop PC? -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] libeina and efreet errors
0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x4e1562 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x518d22 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x45554d 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x438d0b 0x40 /lib64/libc.so.6 0x7f58173eb610 0x7f58173cb000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x439af9 0x40 ERR<15602>:e src/bin/e_randr2.c:867 _screen_config_do() screen config loop! *** Backtrace *** /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 0x7f58180b66e9 0x7f5818093000 /usr/lib64/libeina.so.1 0x7f58180b8287 0x7f5818093000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x4e0440 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x4e04bf 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x4e04bf 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x4e04bf 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x4e04bf 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x4e04bf 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x4e04bf 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x4e0eca 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x4e1562 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x518d22 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x45554d 0x40 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x438d0b 0x40 /lib64/libc.so.6 0x7f58173eb610 0x7f58173cb000 /usr/bin/enlightenment 0x439af9 0x40 ERR<15602>:e src/bin/e_randr2.c:867 _screen_config_do() screen config loop! *** Backtrace *** [snip ...] I've been playing around with different Application Themes, but I don't think they caused this. I'm only mentioning it because some Gtk applications complain like this: (bluefish:16058): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory of theme oxygen has no size field (sublime_text:15850): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory of theme oxygen has no size field (sublime_text:15850): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon 'edit-find' for stock: Fatal error reading PNG image file: bad parameters to zlib Anyway, other errors are available, but I thought of asking about these first. :-) -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to set up two monitors with 8 virtual desktops
On Monday 16 May 2016 16:20:44 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2016 14:09:16 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > On Sunday 15 May 2016 21:56:57 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 May 2016 10:39:17 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I am trying to configure e20 with two monitors. The LH monitor > > > > (DVI-0) is > > > > the primary monitor and the RH (HDMI-0) is the secondary. > > > > > > > > I have a single shelf at the bottom of the primary monitor. I have > > > > configured the RH monitor 'to the right of' the primary monitor. > > > > > > > > I have set up different wallpapers to right and left monitors, but > > > > here's > > > > a > > > > funny thing: when I click in the pager within the shelf of the > > > > primary > > > > monitor to go to another virtual desktop, the right hand monitor stays > > > > put > > > > and does not switch to a corresponding virtual desktop. > > > > > > that's precisely how it's designed and intended to work. each screen has > > > an > > > independent set of NxM desktops (all screens have the same number of > > > NxM). > > > each screen flips separately. > > > > > > > Is there a particular setting which will allow me to switch virtual > > > > desktops in *both* monitors simultaneously, like e.g. in KDE? > > > > > > no. :) get used to this. it takes maybe 2 weeks and after that you can't > > > go > > > back. :) > > > > OK, I will try to reason with the user in question (she's just migrated > > from the horrible new plasma5, which makes MSWindows 10 look pretty). > > just be patient. we've been through this before with users who are suprised > our screens are unlinked desktop-wise. then every single one i've talked to > within 2 weeks got used to it and then says "i can't imagine going back. > this is so much better". :) so give it some patience and see. :) I've added a shelf with a pager on the second screen and so far adoption of the new way of working appears to have been smoother than I thought. :-) Now, if only Chromium could fix their XMapWindow() freezing problem ... everything would be rosy with this user. -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Key control - VOLUME
On Sunday 15 May 2016 15:24:40 Larry Wyble wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2016 19:21:39 +0100 > > Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sunday 15 May 2016 10:05:32 Larry Wyble wrote: > > > I find that when I use the volume keys to increase or decrease > > > volume the action not only changes volume but everything across the > > > board: > > > > > > Master Headphon< PCM > Front Front Mi Front Mi Surround > > > CenterLFE Side Line > > > > > > all those are controlled by the volume key on my keyboard. Is there > > > some place that I can change this?? > > > > > > I tried making a new keyboard shortcut with > > > amixer -- sset Master Playback 2+ > > > > Use pulse or the audio mixer module provided by e20. Click on Mixer > > tab and while the sound source is playing adjust Playback and/or the > > corresponding Output. > > So what you're saying is I can't use the keyboard volume control with > E-20, is that right? No, sorry, I'm not saying that. I don't know how your keyboard volume control can be configured, only suggested that instead of the amixer ncurses you should/could use the e20 mixer widget. I hope someone else can offer advice on keyboard control. -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Key control - VOLUME
On Sunday 15 May 2016 10:05:32 Larry Wyble wrote: > I find that when I use the volume keys to increase or decrease volume > the action not only changes volume but everything across the board: > > Master Headphon< PCM > Front Front Mi Front Mi Surround > CenterLFE Side Line > > all those are controlled by the volume key on my keyboard. Is there > some place that I can change this?? > > I tried making a new keyboard shortcut with > amixer -- sset Master Playback 2+ Use pulse or the audio mixer module provided by e20. Click on Mixer tab and while the sound source is playing adjust Playback and/or the corresponding Output. > But it made no difference at all. I can't find where this is controlled > from. > > Thanks > > > -- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who > bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM > restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the > apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data > untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to set up two monitors with 8 virtual desktops
On Sunday 15 May 2016 21:56:57 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2016 10:39:17 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > Hi All, > > > > I am trying to configure e20 with two monitors. The LH monitor (DVI-0) is > > the primary monitor and the RH (HDMI-0) is the secondary. > > > > I have a single shelf at the bottom of the primary monitor. I have > > configured the RH monitor 'to the right of' the primary monitor. > > > > I have set up different wallpapers to right and left monitors, but here's > > a > > funny thing: when I click in the pager within the shelf of the primary > > monitor to go to another virtual desktop, the right hand monitor stays put > > and does not switch to a corresponding virtual desktop. > > that's precisely how it's designed and intended to work. each screen has an > independent set of NxM desktops (all screens have the same number of NxM). > each screen flips separately. > > > Is there a particular setting which will allow me to switch virtual > > desktops in *both* monitors simultaneously, like e.g. in KDE? > > no. :) get used to this. it takes maybe 2 weeks and after that you can't go > back. :) OK, I will try to reason with the user in question (she's just migrated from the horrible new plasma5, which makes MSWindows 10 look pretty). -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to set up two monitors with 8 virtual desktops
On Sunday 15 May 2016 19:32:23 Simon Lees wrote: > On 05/15/2016 07:09 PM, Mick wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am trying to configure e20 with two monitors. The LH monitor (DVI-0) is > > the primary monitor and the RH (HDMI-0) is the secondary. > > > > I have a single shelf at the bottom of the primary monitor. I have > > configured the RH monitor 'to the right of' the primary monitor. > > > > I have set up different wallpapers to right and left monitors, but here's > > a > > funny thing: when I click in the pager within the shelf of the primary > > monitor to go to another virtual desktop, the right hand monitor stays put > > and does not switch to a corresponding virtual desktop. > > > > Is there a particular setting which will allow me to switch virtual > > desktops in *both* monitors simultaneously, like e.g. in KDE? > > I believe you can setup a keybinding to do that, but I haven't tried, > the separation is one of the main reasons I use Enlightenment Fair enough, but the particular user is using the virtual desktops (VDs) in the two monitors in pairs, similar to the concept of Activities in KDE. So VD1 on monitor 1 and VD1 on monitor 2 have open windows with applications that are used for concurrent/associated activities. VD2 on monitor 1 and VD2 on monitor 2 are similarly used concurrently for a different set of activities. Switching between VD1 and VD2 on both monitors at the same time by using the pager on the shelf on monitor 1 is a preference for this user. Can this be done on e20? -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] How to set up two monitors with 8 virtual desktops
Hi All, I am trying to configure e20 with two monitors. The LH monitor (DVI-0) is the primary monitor and the RH (HDMI-0) is the secondary. I have a single shelf at the bottom of the primary monitor. I have configured the RH monitor 'to the right of' the primary monitor. I have set up different wallpapers to right and left monitors, but here's a funny thing: when I click in the pager within the shelf of the primary monitor to go to another virtual desktop, the right hand monitor stays put and does not switch to a corresponding virtual desktop. Is there a particular setting which will allow me to switch virtual desktops in *both* monitors simultaneously, like e.g. in KDE? -- Regards, Mick-- Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] a few newbie questions ... NO LEFT MOUSE BUTTON! PLEASE HELP!
On Sunday 01 May 2016 16:54:27 Jason Vas Dias wrote: > Please, could anyone advise how to regain use of my left mouse button > in Enlightenment ? > > After removing my ~/.e ~/.elementary and ~/.esd_auth files, > and getting the initial setup menu at startup , and choosing > the option that said something like 'click on windows to focus' > ( because I found the default of focusing on mouse hover really > annoying ), > now I cannot click on any buttons or internal window contents > at all - I can only click on window Border buttons or menus ; > clicking on them does work with the left mouse button; but > If I click the left mouse button on any content INSIDE a window > (not menu or border) the event seems to be ignored. > Obviously, the windowing system is rather unusable in this state. Hmm ... something must have gone sideways. > Please, can anyone advise how to regain control of the mouse in > Enlightenment? The easier way is to shutdown enlightenment, remove ~/.e and restart enlightenment, which will recreate a default setup. After it all starts up with a fresh configuration, right click on the desktop and select Settings/Settings Panel/Windows/Windows Focus/Focus and experiment until you get a setting that suits your needs. -- Regards, Mick-- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Ksnapshot disappears?
I am running efl-1.16.1 and enlightenment-0.20.2. I noticed that when I take a pic with ksnapshot the application window disappears from the desktop and I have no means of getting it back to save the shot. I can see there are two sockets: ps axf | grep ksnapshot 4499 ?SNsl 0:02 \_ ksnapshot -caption KSnapshot 4510 ?SNl0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_trash [kdeinit] trash local:/tmp/xdg-uS6zew/ksocket-michael/klauncherMT3769.slave-socket local:/tmp/xdg-uS6zew/ksocket-michael/ksnapshotSm4499.slave-socket 4511 ?SN 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/xdg-uS6zew/ksocket-michael/klauncherMT3769.slave-socket local:/tmp/xdg-uS6zew/ksocket-michael/ksnapshotsj4499.slave-socket but I can't raise the ksnapshot window thereafter. On a full kde desktop I do not have such a problem. Is this caused by some window focus setting I changed and now forgot, or is it related to KDE? Do you get the same? -- Regards, Mick-- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151=/4140___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E-20 cannot create Ibar Icon
On Friday 15 Jan 2016 09:41:06 Larry Wyble wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:51:51 +0900 > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > the problem is youa re editing a SYSTEM SUPPLIED desktop file. e is > > expecting that to edit..l you edit one that belongs to you (that you > > created). thus it is trying to mess with system paths not in $HOME. > > yes - it likely should duplicate the desktop file into $HOME THEN > > edit. but it doesn't. > > So, dude.. (yes I said dude, I'm 66 years old and I said dude, lol) > dude, is there a work around? :) As already suggested, the workaround is to: a) define a theme for icons: Settings/Look/Application Theme/Icons Select different themes from there until you find something that provides icons to your liking. > > > Why are so many apps missing icons? Terminal is the most > > > obvious... > > > > you havent selected an icon theme? the one selected is invalid or not > > there? configure an icon theme. > > > > > This is under Ubuntu 15.04 and 15.10, but it does htis under 14* as > > > well. > > > > > > ///Peter b) If a particular application does not have an icon, you can define your own. Create a file under ~/.local/share/applications/.desktop with your preferred icon and path to the application, or point to your icon of choice under /usr/share/icons/ -- Regards, Mick-- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311=/4140___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e20 window display problem
Hi Andreas, On Monday 28 Dec 2015 11:01:40 Andreas Volz wrote: > Hello, > > I just updated from e19 to e20 on my ubuntu system. > > Now there is a strange effect if I start new windows from my e20 > session. It seems only E internal and e based apps have this problem > (e.g. terminology). Maybe others too, but I didn't see it. > > The window frame appears just half a second before the content is > displayed and while this time the E background is displayed in this > frame. I see my background icons in the new window frame. Then the real > content is displayed. Looks strange and annoying. > > I you don't understand the problem I'll try to create a video with my > mobile and send you a link. > > regards > Andreas Did you try stopping e, then moving /home/user/.e and restarting e? It will create a new profile with default settings and this will prove if it is a build or a configuration issue. -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mount and Unmount USB drive
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2015 18:56:36 David Myers wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm using E17 on Debian8 (jessie). > > I've noticed that I am not able to 'unmount' usb flashdrives (or any > other external HDD I plug into a usb port). > > I've read around the net that e's filemanager with auto mount and auto > unmount drives when I open it. However I regularly use external drives, > and don't always want (or need) to open them with e's filemanager, and > often would like to leave my system running and my file manager open and > still eject my disk. > > I've read about some 'places viewer' plugin type thing, but I can't > find it anywhere in the repo's for debian, > > currently I've gone back to lxde, but miss the look and feel of > enlightenment (ie sparse and geeky feeling), and there are a number of > things about the desktop that made life really easy (for me). > > If there is anyone out there with a solution to this I would love to > know it, but for now it is a bit of a show stopper for me. > > > thanks in advance. > > David Have a look at this thread - in two parts: http://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/enlightenment-users/thread/CACEbyX3xjauqccaqrtA6m9CdGb72bEEpqQr3jOJ1O1FVChNDvg%40mail.gmail.com/#msg34479487 http://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/enlightenment-users/thread/20150922121721.3a0f314b64db555e495ed26c%40rasterman.com/#msg34479757 Current build from trunk should have been fixed. -- Regards, Mick -- Full-scale, agent-less Infrastructure Monitoring from a single dashboard Integrate with 40+ ManageEngine ITSM Solutions for complete visibility Physical-Virtual-Cloud Infrastructure monitoring from one console Real user monitoring with APM Insights and performance trend reports Learn More http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=247754911=/4140___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] umount external sub does not work because enlightenment process keeps file open
On Tuesday 22 Sep 2015 07:42:49 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:42:26 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > On Tuesday 22 Sep 2015 05:14:42 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 22:22:05 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > > > CRI<3592>: lib/eldbus/eldbus_pending.c:257 eldbus_pending_cancel() > > > > *** Eina Magic Check Failed at 0xd4b800 !!! > > > > > > > > Input handle is wrong type > > > > Expected: db050004 - Eldbus_Pending > > > > Supplied: 00d07450 - (unknown) > > > > > > > > *** NAUGHTY PROGRAMMER!!! > > > > *** SPANK SPANK SPANK!!! > > > > *** Now go fix your code. Tut tut tut! > > > > > > > > The first error was caused when I closed EFM. The second when I > > > > right clicked to unmount it. > > > > > > i'm just going to make e flush all caches before any unmount... this > > > should solve it. > > > > I beg your pardon - the above error shows up when the timeout pop up > > shows on the screen, which is a minute after efm is closed, or a minute > > after I right click and select unmount. > > > > lsof continuous to show that a pdf is hogging e; e.g. the following was > > more than 7 minutes later, despite setting 'Cache flush interval' to 8 > > ticks: > > > > $ lsof | grep /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G > > enlighten 3648 michael 71r REG 8,17 > > 126982 72 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/News/koo-150715e.pdf > > enlighten 3648 3649michael 71r REG 8,17 > > 126982 72 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/News/koo-150715e.pdf > > enlighten 3648 3654michael 71r REG 8,17 > > 126982 72 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/News/koo-150715e.pdf > > enlighten 3648 3655michael 71r REG 8,17 > > 126982 72 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/News/koo-150715e.pdf > > enlighten 3648 3656michael 71r REG 8,17 > > 126982 72 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/News/koo-150715e.pdf > > how on earth do you get multiple fd's opened? i only ever see a single one! > as above - i just put a commit in master that has e flush caches on > unmount. Thanks Carsten! I always get multiple fds. The above was caused by me hovering over a single pdf file, once only. :-/ -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] umount external sub does not work because enlightenment process keeps file open
On Tuesday 22 Sep 2015 05:14:42 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 22:22:05 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > CRI<3592>: lib/eldbus/eldbus_pending.c:257 eldbus_pending_cancel() *** > > Eina Magic Check Failed at 0xd4b800 !!! > > > > Input handle is wrong type > > Expected: db050004 - Eldbus_Pending > > Supplied: 00d07450 - (unknown) > > > > *** NAUGHTY PROGRAMMER!!! > > *** SPANK SPANK SPANK!!! > > *** Now go fix your code. Tut tut tut! > > > > The first error was caused when I closed EFM. The second when I right > > clicked to unmount it. > > i'm just going to make e flush all caches before any unmount... this should > solve it. I beg your pardon - the above error shows up when the timeout pop up shows on the screen, which is a minute after efm is closed, or a minute after I right click and select unmount. lsof continuous to show that a pdf is hogging e; e.g. the following was more than 7 minutes later, despite setting 'Cache flush interval' to 8 ticks: $ lsof | grep /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G enlighten 3648 michael 71r REG 8,17 126982 72 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/News/koo-150715e.pdf enlighten 3648 3649michael 71r REG 8,17 126982 72 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/News/koo-150715e.pdf enlighten 3648 3654michael 71r REG 8,17 126982 72 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/News/koo-150715e.pdf enlighten 3648 3655michael 71r REG 8,17 126982 72 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/News/koo-150715e.pdf enlighten 3648 3656michael 71r REG 8,17 126982 72 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/News/koo-150715e.pdf -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] umount external sub does not work because enlightenment process keeps file open
On Monday 21 Sep 2015 07:52:00 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 06:50:58 +0100 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> said: > > On Sunday 20 Sep 2015 23:43:18 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:15:21 +0200 (CEST) Peter Koellner > > > <pe...@asgalon.net> > > > > > > said: > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > So I am in the menu at Preferencias (using spanish locale) - > > > > Preferencias (the one with the two crossed wrenches icon, not the > > > > other one with one wrench icon) -> Configure Elementary -> More -> > > > > Caches. Is that the right place? I didn't see anything under > > > > 'Avanzado', which would probably be the translation for 'advanced'. > > > > > > > > There I see under Cache Flush Interval: > > > > > > > > [x] Enable Flushing - 512 ticks > > > > Font Cache Size - 0.5MB > > > > Image Cache Size - 4 MB > > > > Number of Edje Files to Cache - 32 files > > > > Number of Edge Collections to Cache - 64 collections > > > > > > not elementary. > > > > > > settings -> advanced -> performance > > > > > > under "caches" > > > > > > "cache flush interval" - default is 512 ticks. top slider. > > > > Thanks Carsten, this the setting I altered, reduced it to 64 ticks,but > > the problem remains. PDF files, or image files (png) just get stuck > > listed multiple times in lsof and are not released. txt files have no > > such problem. > > that's still 8 seconds. drop it to 8. > > > A minute or more after I close EFM I get the usual pop up advising me > > that the USB could not be unmounted > > (org.enlightenment.fm2.UnmounTimeout). > > > > I'm running efl/elementary 1.15.1 and enlightenment 0.19.10 at present, > > but this problem is there for some time now. > > ummm errr... it should work. i noticed when i nuked it to 8 the open fd > went away fast. Yes, it should, or at least it was in the past, but it doesn't right now. I dropped it down to 8 ticks. PDFs or image files still won't let go. A minute or so later the org.enlightenment.fm2.UnmounTimeout error pops up. The .enlightenment-errors file shows this: E FM OPERATION CHANGED: --- E FM OPERATION FINISHED: --- E FM OPERATION CHANGED: --- E FM OPERATION FINISHED: --- CRI<3592>: lib/eldbus/eldbus_pending.c:257 eldbus_pending_cancel() *** Eina Magic Check Failed at 0xd36af0 !!! Input handle is wrong type Expected: db050004 - Eldbus_Pending Supplied: 00d49070 - (unknown) *** NAUGHTY PROGRAMMER!!! *** SPANK SPANK SPANK!!! *** Now go fix your code. Tut tut tut! CRI<3592>: lib/eldbus/eldbus_pending.c:257 eldbus_pending_cancel() *** Eina Magic Check Failed at 0xd4b800 !!! Input handle is wrong type Expected: db050004 - Eldbus_Pending Supplied: 00d07450 - (unknown) *** NAUGHTY PROGRAMMER!!! *** SPANK SPANK SPANK!!! *** Now go fix your code. Tut tut tut! The first error was caused when I closed EFM. The second when I right clicked to unmount it. -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] umount external sub does not work because enlightenment process keeps file open
On Sunday 20 Sep 2015 23:43:18 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:15:21 +0200 (CEST) Peter Koellner > <pe...@asgalon.net> > > said: > > Hi! > > > > So I am in the menu at Preferencias (using spanish locale) - > > Preferencias (the one with the two crossed wrenches icon, not the other > > one with one wrench icon) -> Configure Elementary -> More -> Caches. Is > > that the right place? I didn't see anything under 'Avanzado', which > > would probably be the translation for 'advanced'. > > > > There I see under Cache Flush Interval: > > > > [x] Enable Flushing - 512 ticks > > Font Cache Size - 0.5MB > > Image Cache Size - 4 MB > > Number of Edje Files to Cache - 32 files > > Number of Edge Collections to Cache - 64 collections > > not elementary. > > settings -> advanced -> performance > > under "caches" > > "cache flush interval" - default is 512 ticks. top slider. Thanks Carsten, this the setting I altered, reduced it to 64 ticks,but the problem remains. PDF files, or image files (png) just get stuck listed multiple times in lsof and are not released. txt files have no such problem. A minute or more after I close EFM I get the usual pop up advising me that the USB could not be unmounted (org.enlightenment.fm2.UnmounTimeout). I'm running efl/elementary 1.15.1 and enlightenment 0.19.10 at present, but this problem is there for some time now. -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] umount external sub does not work because enlightenment process keeps file open
On Saturday 19 Sep 2015 16:02:27 Peter Koellner wrote: > Hi! > > I just had the effect that I can't unmount an external USB drive after > opening one of the files in there from the file manager window, neither > from shell nor from the desktop disc icon menu. > > peter@kropotkin:~$ umount /media/peter/TOSHIBA\ EXT > Error unmounting block device 8:17: > GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.DeviceBusy: Error unmounting > /dev/sdb1: Command-line `umount "/media/peter/TOSHIBA EXT"' exited with > non-zero exit status 32: umount: /media/peter/TOSHIBA EXT: target is busy > (In some cases useful info about processes that > use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1).) > > > I have closed the atril viewer, but lsof +D /media/.../topdir says that the > enlightenment process still has the file open: > > peter@kropotkin:~$ lsof +D /media/peter/TOSHIBA\ EXT/ > COMMANDPID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME > enlighten 3800 peter 127r REG 8,17 7918 101096 > /media/peter/TOSHIBA EXT/Empresa/2015/q3/Gastos/aaa/x/yy.pdf > > The effect is reproducible by clicking on the desktop disc icon and > double-clicking on some PDF document. The atril viewer pops up. After > closing the viewer I get the following result: > > peter@kropotkin:~$ lsof +D /media/peter/TOSHIBA\ EXT/ > COMMANDPID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME > enlighten 3800 peter 75r REG 8,17 1772495 35 > /media/peter/TOSHIBA EXT/doc/TOSHIBA CANVIO BASICS.PDF enlighten 3800 > peter 127r REG 8,17 7918 101096 /media/peter/TOSHIBA > EXT/Empresa/2015/q3/Gastos/aaa/x/yy.pdf > > > atril is no longer running at this point. > > I have efl and elementary 1.15.1 and enlightenment 0.19.9 installed... > > Any ideas? I posted about the same problem a month or two ago, but with efl, elementary on 1.15.0 and enlightenment on 0.19.8. If I hover over certain files, e.g. pdf, I can no longer unmount the USB drive. enlightenment seems to be holding onto it for some reason, well after the hover over preview has stopped. I am guessing it is a bug. -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] USB Flash won't unmount - bug?
Running e-0.19.8 and efl-1.15.0. I noticed that a USB flash card will not unmount when I close the file manager, after I have hovered over a pdf file. Hovering over a txt file works as expected and the card unmounts, but with pdf files it won't. $ umount /dev/sdb1 Error unmounting block device 8:17: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.DeviceBusy: Error unmounting /dev/sdb1: Command-line `umount /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G' exited with non-zero exit status 32: umount: /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G: target is busy (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1).) This is what lsof shows: # lsof | grep /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/ enlighten 3566 michael 79r REG 8,17 1116941 387 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/CMDBuild_OverviewDocument_ENG_V220.pdf enlighten 3566 3567michael 79r REG 8,17 1116941 387 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/CMDBuild_OverviewDocument_ENG_V220.pdf enlighten 3566 3572michael 79r REG 8,17 1116941 387 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/CMDBuild_OverviewDocument_ENG_V220.pdf enlighten 3566 3575michael 79r REG 8,17 1116941 387 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/CMDBuild_OverviewDocument_ENG_V220.pdf enlighten 3566 3576michael 79r REG 8,17 1116941 387 /run/media/michael/VERBATIM32G/CMDBuild_OverviewDocument_ENG_V220.pdf Is this a known problem and is there a workaround? -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] unusual enlightenment high CPU usage
On Saturday 11 Jul 2015 20:40:15 David Seikel wrote: On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 14:26:08 -0400 Toan Pham tpham3...@gmail.com wrote: the compositor is going to draw whenever ANY APP draws. Hmm, why is this, even when there's no pager? Is there a setting in E for it not to draw for a certain window name or type? The compositor draws EVERYTHING on the screen. So any time any application changes anything on one of its windows, the compositor updates that part of the application window. That's what compositors do. Perhaps I am being dense, but your first sentence contradicts the second: Is it just the application window within which something changes that is being redrawn by the compositor and that application window only, or is it the complete real estate of the whole screen that is being refreshed? As Carsten explained it I thought that it was the former. -- Regards, Mick -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Dropbox and network applets disappear before an upgrade
On Sunday 14 Jun 2015 01:00:32 Claudio Cesar de Sa wrote: Mick Thanks for your help. Where is the place to check on systray module ? Enabled or loaded by which command? Left click on the desktop/Settings/Modules/Systray or Left click on the desktop/Settings/Settings Panel/Extensions/Modules/Systray. After you enable the systray module, right click on the Shelf and go to Contents where you can enable the systray. About the default thème ... I am using one theme from Sparky. Any additionnal package to install? I am talking of the default theme that e ships with. I don't know what Sparky offers. Also in shelf/Settings/Style leave it as default. If you make it Transluscent or Invisible you may find that the Systray becomes more temperamental - some times it shows, some times not and systray icons may overlap each other. Le 13 juin 2015 4:26 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi Claudio, On Saturday 13 Jun 2015 03:31:28 Claudio Cesar de Sa wrote: Hi guys I am not sure if it os correct forum to post doubts ans question on Enlightenment. Since I upgraded my system un this month, the applets (small icon) of Dropbox and network configuration disapeared. I think you are referring to the systray module. This has become temperamental as time progresses. Any idea to fix it? Reinstalling the Dropbox? And about thé others applets? I am using the e19 native from Sparky Linux (an impressive distro) Make sure that the systray module is enabled. Set your shelf to default theme. Also right click on it, go to Settings and enable Xembed. Restart e to make sure it reloads everything. If it doesn't work, then you're probably out of luck until some e dev does something about it - from what I understand not all applications behave in systray the same and this make the design of systray on e somewhat problematic. -- Regards, Mick - - ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- --- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] wiki/www - help?
On Sunday 14 Jun 2015 08:36:06 you wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:27:44 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com said: On Saturday 13 Jun 2015 03:59:18 Carsten Haitzler wrote: and yes - i've tried googles control panel. i manually submitted a bunch of urls/pages (but not the url above), so thats' the only reason they got indexed. gogole simply isn't spidering. :( If you have a robots.txt or site.xml at the webroot, have you checked there is no clash there? https://www.enlightenment.org/robots.txt User-agent: * Allow: / there is no site.xml ... or might it be that dokuwiki turns site.xml into a this topic doesnt exist page... ? does that mess things up? (dokuwiki turns any unknown page into that this doesnt exist yet allowing you to create it) That's OK then, because there would be no clash if site.xml does not exist. :-) I also noticed that there is not sitemap.xml, which is not necessary, but would help to index pages that may have been missed out for some reason and also propose a priority for each. I used to run a python script provided by Google some years ago, but with the advent of CMS script like this should be part of the CMS engine. Have a look here https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/156184?hl=en and follow the link on the right hand side navigation menu to borrow some code for building a sitemap.xml Here's one I built for you using an online generator, but I can't guarantee that it is syntactically correct for Google/Bing/Yahoo requirements: === ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? urlset xmlns=http://www.sitemaps.org/schemas/sitemap/0.9; xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; xsi:schemaLocation=http://www.sitemaps.org/schemas/sitemap/0.9 http://www.sitemaps.org/schemas/sitemap/0.9/sitemap.xsd; !-- created with Free Online Sitemap Generator www.xml-sitemaps.com -- url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org//loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/start/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/about/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/download/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/contact/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/about-enlightenment/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/contribute/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/about-efl/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/about-terminology/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/about-rage/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/about-edi/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/media/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs-efl-start/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/contact/arcanist/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/c/start/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/efl/start/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/efl/advanced/start/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/_detail/e-logo-title.svg?id=media/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/efl/mainloop/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/efl/ecore_idlers/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/efl/ref/c/key/evas_object_del/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/efl/advanced/dnd/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/efl/ref/c/key/evas_object_ref%28%29/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/efl/ref/c/key/evas_object_ref/loc /url url lochttps://www.enlightenment.org/docs/efl/ref/c/key/evas_object_del%28%29/loc /url /urlset === Google unfriendly URLs like evas_object_del%28%29 are not going to help, so you may want to edit those. Then add it to the webroot and tell Google about it, or it will (should) pick it up anyway at its next crawl. HTH. -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] wiki/www - help?
On Sunday 14 Jun 2015 08:45:44 David Seikel wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:36:06 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:27:44 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com said: On Saturday 13 Jun 2015 03:59:18 Carsten Haitzler wrote: and yes - i've tried googles control panel. i manually submitted a bunch of urls/pages (but not the url above), so thats' the only reason they got indexed. gogole simply isn't spidering. :( If you have a robots.txt or site.xml at the webroot, have you checked there is no clash there? https://www.enlightenment.org/robots.txt User-agent: * Allow: / there is no site.xml ... or might it be that dokuwiki turns site.xml into a this topic doesnt exist page... ? does that mess things up? (dokuwiki turns any unknown page into that this doesnt exist yet allowing you to create it) I have no idea if this is relevant here, just stumbled across it today - http://landley.net/notes.html#06-05-2015 It is relevant, but not to this problem. The code generated by the docuwiki is mobile friendly. You can use the google mobile tester to see this: https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/ -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] wiki/www - help?
On Saturday 13 Jun 2015 03:59:18 Carsten Haitzler wrote: and yes - i've tried googles control panel. i manually submitted a bunch of urls/pages (but not the url above), so thats' the only reason they got indexed. gogole simply isn't spidering. :( If you have a robots.txt or site.xml at the webroot, have you checked there is no clash there? -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Dropbox and network applets disappear before an upgrade
Hi Claudio, On Saturday 13 Jun 2015 03:31:28 Claudio Cesar de Sa wrote: Hi guys I am not sure if it os correct forum to post doubts ans question on Enlightenment. Since I upgraded my system un this month, the applets (small icon) of Dropbox and network configuration disapeared. I think you are referring to the systray module. This has become temperamental as time progresses. Any idea to fix it? Reinstalling the Dropbox? And about thé others applets? I am using the e19 native from Sparky Linux (an impressive distro) Make sure that the systray module is enabled. Set your shelf to default theme. Also right click on it, go to Settings and enable Xembed. Restart e to make sure it reloads everything. If it doesn't work, then you're probably out of luck until some e dev does something about it - from what I understand not all applications behave in systray the same and this make the design of systray on e somewhat problematic. -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] wiki/www - help?
On Friday 12 Jun 2015 13:30:53 Wido wrote: I know is something stupid to ask but, have you checked the robot.txt file? google usually behaves to that file, so if you have it and it's saying 'don't read this', it probable isn't There is an inline robots meta tag: meta name=robots content=index,follow/ However, the page has not been indexed by Google. Something in it causes Google to consider it inappropriate for indexing. I wonder if it is the rather large CDATA section starting at line 22, which causes some parsing error in the Google crawler. Not sure what's causing this output, it seems to contain WYSIWYG (rich text editor) elements. -- Regards, Mick -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
