Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-13 Thread Peter Flynn
On 13/01/18 06:43, Carsten Haitzler wrote: [...] bryce (now gadget bar) is the same as shelf, For all practical (user) purposes it's identical, just slightly bigger icons and a more robust operating procedure. Plus the option for many more gadgets in the future. stephen is right. it's far

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-13 Thread Peter Flynn
On 12/01/18 23:48, Stephen Houston wrote: Can you file a ticket on phab.enlightenment.org and tag it enlightenment-gadgets with this exact info? [...] I'll reboot later on just in case it's this Dell touchpad. I rebooted and it's fine. I don't trust Dell hardware any more. P

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Massimo Maiurana
Carsten Haitzler ha scritto il 13/01/2018 alle 07:43: > > stephen is right. it's far more than just for launching apps. its a > panel/bar/whatever thing for a bunch of "desktop control gadgets" that you'd > commonly use to control your desktop environment (or see it's status). Indeed I don't use

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:13:54 + Peter Flynn said: > On 12/01/18 22:16, Stephen Houston wrote: > > I don't think you get it - luncher is the application launcher - what was > > bryce and is now gadget bar is what holds the luncher (which is a gadget as > > well as any of

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Stephen Houston
Can you file a ticket on phab.enlightenment.org and tag it enlightenment-gadgets with this exact info? Thanks On Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 5:14 PM Peter Flynn wrote: > On 12/01/18 22:16, Stephen Houston wrote: > > I don't think you get it - luncher is the application launcher -

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Peter Flynn
On 12/01/18 22:16, Stephen Houston wrote: I don't think you get it - luncher is the application launcher - what was bryce and is now gadget bar is what holds the luncher (which is a gadget as well as any of your other gadgets - wireless, pager, temperature, cpumonitor, netstatus, etc.., etc..,

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Stephen Houston
I don't think you get it - luncher is the application launcher - what was bryce and is now gadget bar is what holds the luncher (which is a gadget as well as any of your other gadgets - wireless, pager, temperature, cpumonitor, netstatus, etc.., etc.., etc...) so gadget bar makes sense. NM works

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Peter Flynn
On 12/01/18 21:32, Stephen Houston wrote: Glad to hear it -- The effect is there, just not as gaudy as you said. though it definitely last long enough for me to see the icon explode - it doesn't quite pulse the way the ibar did -- It's a somewhat simpler/smoother effect. I know different people

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Stephen Houston
Glad to hear it -- The effect is there, just not as gaudy as you said. though it definitely last long enough for me to see the icon explode - it doesn't quite pulse the way the ibar did -- It's a somewhat simpler/smoother effect. I know different people will have different tastes with it and that

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-12 Thread Peter Flynn
On 11/01/18 22:14, Stephen Houston wrote: A bryce has a luncher which is where application icons sit. Found it. It actually offered it as a gadget. Is that meant to be launcher or luncher? the gadgets available for your shelf are not the same as gadgets available for bryce. But there is

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-11 Thread Stephen Houston
A bryce has a luncher which is where application icons sit. the gadgets available for your shelf are not the same as gadgets available for bryce. If you want the bryce on bottom, you will have to remove your shelf from the bottom and put a bryce there. All the functionality of shelves plus the

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-11 Thread Peter Flynn
On 11/01/18 21:39, Stephen Houston wrote: https://git.enlightenment.org/enlightenment/gadgets/wireless.git/ You can get it here. However, this is a new gadget so it uses the new scheme which you have previously mentioned you are not interested in. Only because it wasn't clear that it

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-11 Thread Peter Flynn
On 11/01/18 21:37, Stephen Houston wrote: Why would you still be holding down your trackpad after alt+right click? Good point...but I had assumed that after clicking, I would need to move the pointer to the place where I could click on Remove, which would mean keeping it pressed while I

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-11 Thread Stephen Houston
https://git.enlightenment.org/enlightenment/gadgets/wireless.git/ You can get it here. However, this is a new gadget so it uses the new scheme which you have previously mentioned you are not interested in. If you would like to continue using shelves and their contents, you can use the connman

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-11 Thread Stephen Houston
Why would you still be holding down your trackpad after alt+right click? That's not how alt+rclick has ever worked, not even on the windows which is what this behavior mimics (which keeps the design theory you are speaking of that all things should work the same intact). Once you've clicked and

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-11 Thread Peter Flynn
On 11/01/18 00:06, Stephen Houston wrote: If you aren't using connman, I'm not, mainly because NM is working perfectly, and I'm not aware of the reasons why I might want to change. Is connman better or faster? I know it was unusable when I first started using E many years ago, because it

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-11 Thread Peter Flynn
On 11/01/18 00:05, Stephen Houston wrote: Alt+right click lets you remove them. I'm sure it's meant to. The first time I did it, there was indeed a little "Remove" button, but as both my hands were occupied (one holding the Alt key, the other holding down the right-hand corner of the

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-10 Thread Stephen Houston
If you aren't using connman, you'll want to use the wireless gadget it enlightenment/gadgets/wireless.git as it supports network manager as well as connman. On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 6:05 PM Stephen Houston wrote: > Alt+right click let's you remove them. Bryce is the

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-10 Thread Stephen Houston
Alt+right click let's you remove them. Bryce is the equivalent of a shelf. Add A Bryce then alt+right click it to add gadgets to it. Bryce and new gadgets work like windows. Alt + mouse actions handle menus, resizing, moving, etc... the same way they would windows. On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 5:36 PM

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-10 Thread Peter Flynn
On 10/01/18 22:16, Stephen Houston wrote: They are designed for the new gadget system that is the replacement for shelves and contents. Left click on the desktop, Add Gadgets to Desktop or Add Bryce. That's where they are hiding. Aha, thanks. Can I add gadgets to the Shelf not the desktop?

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-10 Thread Stephen Houston
They are designed for the new gadget system that is the replacement for shelves and contents. Left click on the desktop, Add Gadgets to Desktop or Add Bryce. That's where they are hiding. Stephen On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:57 PM Peter Flynn wrote: > On 10/01/18 20:51,

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-10 Thread Peter Flynn
On 10/01/18 20:51, Stephen Houston wrote: The wireless gadget will tell you which network you are connect to and signal strength when you hover on it. The netstatus gadget will give you realtime network throughput Aha. Thank you. Where do I find these? If I right-click on an existing gadget

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-10 Thread Stephen Houston
The wireless gadget will tell you which network you are connect to and signal strength when you hover on it. The netstatus gadget will give you realtime network throughput On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:49 PM Peter Flynn wrote: > On 10/01/18 20:38, Stephen Houston wrote: > >

Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-10 Thread Peter Flynn
On 10/01/18 20:38, Stephen Houston wrote: Hello, I would like to point everyone to a new wiki page we have that details developing gadgets for Enlightenment using the sandbox method. https://www.enlightenment.org/develop/e/sandbox_gadgets Feel free to use the guide to create cool new gadgets

[e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

2018-01-10 Thread Stephen Houston
Hello, I would like to point everyone to a new wiki page we have that details developing gadgets for Enlightenment using the sandbox method. https://www.enlightenment.org/develop/e/sandbox_gadgets Feel free to use the guide to create cool new gadgets for E and make sure you contribute back