Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 21:42:30 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said:

> On 9/29/18 4:03 PM, minimec wrote:
> 
> > A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
> > tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
> > components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
> > your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?
> > 
> Needs to install Arch. Some people may be interested, it works fine...
> Maintainer/packager, Raster himself
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/efl-git/
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/enlightenment-git/

yeah. i maintain those (poke me if something is wrong) - i keep the build
options at what i use and know works and so that means wayland also should work
with the efl+e aur packages (if it can work at all :) - e.g. won't work on
nvidia as nvidia chose not to use GBM like everyone else).

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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-30 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 16:03:57 +0200 minimec  said:

> Dear Raster.
> 
> Thank you for your reply.
> 
> > Input should have nothing to do with driver. it's unrelated to any video
> driver (nvidia) code. This doesn't make sense... :/ It's something else.
> 
> After having read your reply, I checked my config and startup script and
> found, that I run a modified gnome-session every time I start
> enlightenment. That comes from a time when I used a gnome-panel in my
> enlightenment session. So removing that gnome-session solved my most
> important problems. Heureka!

wow. well... something has gone wrong. maybe gnome-session somehow trying to
grab mouse buttons or remap keys/modifiers ... or something? another problem
wayland solves :0

> So it looks like that gnome-session interfered with the enlightenment
> session from time to time. Still it is interesting to see, that the
> problems only came up, once I started to use the nvidia-396 driver.
> Strange...

yeah/ they shouldn't. video drivers will affect screen setup/output and
rendering... but not input. perhaps at most they change timing and thus race
conditions might appear that then affect input.

> > So the first port of call is to look into if the latest efl + e from git
> master...
> 
> A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
> tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
> components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
> your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?

well enlightenment.org provides instructions on efl and e ... even for several
specific linux distributions. :) but you don't seem to need it now, so no
point. we found at least part of the problem (gnome-session and e clashing).

> THX again for your time.
> 
> 
> Am Fr., 28. Sep. 2018 um 19:49 Uhr schrieb Carsten Haitzler <
> ras...@rasterman.com>:
> 
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:59:59 +0200 minimec  said:
> >
> > Input should have nothing to do with driver. it's unrelated to any video
> > driver
> > (nvidia) code. This doesn't make sense... :/ It's something else.
> >
> > So the first port of call is to look into if the latest efl + e from git
> > master
> > still show the same issues, and then to hunt what they are. maybe latest
> > efl
> > release (instead of efl git) plus e from git master. then we can narrow
> > down
> > maybe if it's been fixed or if still there, what.
> >
> > > My friends...
> > >
> > > For a long time now I lived with some bugs with ubuntu 16.04 + e22.3.0
> > > (ppa) and a nvidia gtx1060, running the default ubuntu version of the
> > > proprietary nvidia driver, (nvidia-384). I was not able to do right
> > clicks
> > > in some software (telegram-desktop) and had some 'ghosts' of closed or
> > > minimized applications in the pager and the window switcher. Also I lost
> > > focus on popup windows in some apps (gnome-screenshot). I could live with
> > > that... I have seen worse in my ~15(!) years of enlightenment usage.
> > >
> > > Now I had to switch to the latest nvidia-396, because of some steam
> > games I
> > > would like to play. Problems have become worse! Now I completely loose
> > > focus from time to time for the whole desktop. Although I can drag
> > windows
> > > around and close them, I cannot open any enlightenment menu from the
> > > desktop with my mouse, I cannot type anymore (or only certain keys work).
> > > The only way to get focus back, is to switch to a console and back to X.
> > >
> > > I have come to a point, where I really need your help. I cannot continue
> > my
> > > enlightenment experience like that. My hope is that some of you might be
> > > aware of similar problems and are able to share their solution (nvidia
> > GPU
> > > configuration) or enlightenment rendering settings.
> > >
> > > If you don't have a solution for me, I probably need to step back to e17
> > in
> > > combination with bodhilinux or use a different window manager. Stepping
> > > back to nvidia-384 is a temporary solution maybe, but I would not be able
> > > to use my computer and GPU the way I want i to use, as I would not be
> > able
> > > to play the games I want, that need a rather recent nvidia-driver.
> > >
> > > Please help me. The e17 desktop was and still is an enlightenment for
> > me. I
> > > cannot imagine living without it on a multi-screen setup.
> > >
> > > sincerely yours...
> > >
> > > minimec
> > >
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> >
> >
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> > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com
> >
> >


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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-29 Thread leoutation

On 9/29/18 4:03 PM, minimec wrote:


A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?


Needs to install Arch. Some people may be interested, it works fine...
Maintainer/packager, Raster himself
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/efl-git/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/enlightenment-git/




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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-29 Thread Jérémy Zurcher
Hi,

On Saturday 29 September 2018  16:03, minimec wrote :
> A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
> tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
> components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
> your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?

I use mine on a daily basis
https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/build-fcts.sh
https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/build-box.sh

you must first git clone the desired repos

you can override the default vars with an efl-build.conf file
(https://git.enlightenment.org/devs/jeyzu/scripts.git/tree/clang-flags.conf)

> 
--- Hell'O from Yverdoom

Jérémy (jeyzu)


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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-29 Thread minimec
Dear Raster.

Thank you for your reply.

> Input should have nothing to do with driver. it's unrelated to any video
driver (nvidia) code. This doesn't make sense... :/ It's something else.

After having read your reply, I checked my config and startup script and
found, that I run a modified gnome-session every time I start
enlightenment. That comes from a time when I used a gnome-panel in my
enlightenment session. So removing that gnome-session solved my most
important problems. Heureka!

So it looks like that gnome-session interfered with the enlightenment
session from time to time. Still it is interesting to see, that the
problems only came up, once I started to use the nvidia-396 driver.
Strange...

> So the first port of call is to look into if the latest efl + e from git
master...

A long time ago there was a build script, 'easy_e17.sh' it was called I
tnink, that checked the project tree for new code and compiled the
components accordingly. Would such a script still exist? Or what would be
your recommended way to compile enlightenment from source?

THX again for your time.


Am Fr., 28. Sep. 2018 um 19:49 Uhr schrieb Carsten Haitzler <
ras...@rasterman.com>:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:59:59 +0200 minimec  said:
>
> Input should have nothing to do with driver. it's unrelated to any video
> driver
> (nvidia) code. This doesn't make sense... :/ It's something else.
>
> So the first port of call is to look into if the latest efl + e from git
> master
> still show the same issues, and then to hunt what they are. maybe latest
> efl
> release (instead of efl git) plus e from git master. then we can narrow
> down
> maybe if it's been fixed or if still there, what.
>
> > My friends...
> >
> > For a long time now I lived with some bugs with ubuntu 16.04 + e22.3.0
> > (ppa) and a nvidia gtx1060, running the default ubuntu version of the
> > proprietary nvidia driver, (nvidia-384). I was not able to do right
> clicks
> > in some software (telegram-desktop) and had some 'ghosts' of closed or
> > minimized applications in the pager and the window switcher. Also I lost
> > focus on popup windows in some apps (gnome-screenshot). I could live with
> > that... I have seen worse in my ~15(!) years of enlightenment usage.
> >
> > Now I had to switch to the latest nvidia-396, because of some steam
> games I
> > would like to play. Problems have become worse! Now I completely loose
> > focus from time to time for the whole desktop. Although I can drag
> windows
> > around and close them, I cannot open any enlightenment menu from the
> > desktop with my mouse, I cannot type anymore (or only certain keys work).
> > The only way to get focus back, is to switch to a console and back to X.
> >
> > I have come to a point, where I really need your help. I cannot continue
> my
> > enlightenment experience like that. My hope is that some of you might be
> > aware of similar problems and are able to share their solution (nvidia
> GPU
> > configuration) or enlightenment rendering settings.
> >
> > If you don't have a solution for me, I probably need to step back to e17
> in
> > combination with bodhilinux or use a different window manager. Stepping
> > back to nvidia-384 is a temporary solution maybe, but I would not be able
> > to use my computer and GPU the way I want i to use, as I would not be
> able
> > to play the games I want, that need a rather recent nvidia-driver.
> >
> > Please help me. The e17 desktop was and still is an enlightenment for
> me. I
> > cannot imagine living without it on a multi-screen setup.
> >
> > sincerely yours...
> >
> > minimec
> >
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>
>
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Re: [e-users] e22.3.0 windows/desktop focus problems in combination with recent nvidia drivers

2018-09-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:59:59 +0200 minimec  said:

Input should have nothing to do with driver. it's unrelated to any video driver
(nvidia) code. This doesn't make sense... :/ It's something else.

So the first port of call is to look into if the latest efl + e from git master
still show the same issues, and then to hunt what they are. maybe latest efl
release (instead of efl git) plus e from git master. then we can narrow down
maybe if it's been fixed or if still there, what.

> My friends...
> 
> For a long time now I lived with some bugs with ubuntu 16.04 + e22.3.0
> (ppa) and a nvidia gtx1060, running the default ubuntu version of the
> proprietary nvidia driver, (nvidia-384). I was not able to do right clicks
> in some software (telegram-desktop) and had some 'ghosts' of closed or
> minimized applications in the pager and the window switcher. Also I lost
> focus on popup windows in some apps (gnome-screenshot). I could live with
> that... I have seen worse in my ~15(!) years of enlightenment usage.
> 
> Now I had to switch to the latest nvidia-396, because of some steam games I
> would like to play. Problems have become worse! Now I completely loose
> focus from time to time for the whole desktop. Although I can drag windows
> around and close them, I cannot open any enlightenment menu from the
> desktop with my mouse, I cannot type anymore (or only certain keys work).
> The only way to get focus back, is to switch to a console and back to X.
> 
> I have come to a point, where I really need your help. I cannot continue my
> enlightenment experience like that. My hope is that some of you might be
> aware of similar problems and are able to share their solution (nvidia GPU
> configuration) or enlightenment rendering settings.
> 
> If you don't have a solution for me, I probably need to step back to e17 in
> combination with bodhilinux or use a different window manager. Stepping
> back to nvidia-384 is a temporary solution maybe, but I would not be able
> to use my computer and GPU the way I want i to use, as I would not be able
> to play the games I want, that need a rather recent nvidia-driver.
> 
> Please help me. The e17 desktop was and still is an enlightenment for me. I
> cannot imagine living without it on a multi-screen setup.
> 
> sincerely yours...
> 
> minimec
> 
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