Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Fwd: Stupidly Slow Firefox ESR (RJRiley.C)

[David Jenn]

I have long since left Firefox, and the recent ridiculous hype over V57 is
nauseating..

Running on V52 I often (not intentionally) had 350 Tabs open and of course,
it struggled, but I always had time to clean up and restore good operation..

On V57 it regularly crashes when I get beyond 60-70 and the response on
this thread sums up the attitude of the 'Support' team.

Do you actually have a Testing team??

Yours, in sorrow and frustration


On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Josh Frye  wrote:

> Fwd:  Stupidly Slow Firefox ESR (RJRiley.C)
>
> We have several thousand installs of ESR 52.6.0 and there has not been a
> report yet about slowdowns like your experiencing. The only add ons those
> installs have are the ones put in by the users. I do add that we are on Win
> 10 Enterprise, 64 bit, with 64 bit Firefox.
>
>
> Josh Frye
> Classroom Support Technician
> Ivy Tech Community College
> (office) 812-298-2448
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> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 21:30:12 -0500
> From: "RJRiley.C" 
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> Not only slowing down over time, but also crashing.? I have noticed that
>
> certain web sites cause this, one example is mlive.com, where just three
> concurrent web pages loaded would bring a 4th gen I7 with nearly a 8000
> CPUBenchmark rating down. Problems with Firefox have become so frequent
> that I now rarely use it. I would appreciate feedback on why mlive.com is
> such a problem. RJRiley
>
> On 3/2/2018 12:00 PM, Java Sys wrote:
> > Summary: Firefox ESR v52.1 even with 26 add-ons runs fast, is stable,
> > and uses a low memory footprint - compared to any more recent Firefox
> > ESR releases.
> >
> > We shall stay with this Firefox ESR v52.1as long as seems sensible -
> > and then turn to an alternative to Firefox if the Firefox ESR at the
> > time is still as slow as, for example, Firefox ESR v52.6.0 (although
> > all these v52.6.0, v52.5.3, and v52.2.1 were also unacceptable slow
> > and require far too much memory c.f. Firefox ESR v52.1 )
> >
> > Like many others it seems, we've experienced a slowing down of Firefox
> > ESR over time which recently has resulted in stupidly slow Firefox ESR
> > performance.
> >
> > Initially we tried creating brand new profiles, which helped for a
> > (very short) period but slowed back to unacceptable levels within a
> > few days of (our) normal usage after re-adding back the 26 add-ons.
> > After reading comments on this list about reverting back to an earlier
> > version we tried this with Firefox ESR versions v52.6.0, v52.5.3, and
> > then v52.2.1 - all suffered the slow down after some normal usage
> > after a few days.
> > Immensely annoying and very, very time consuming to test, we tried
> > removing all add-ons which made a small difference but not for long,
> > we tried disabling safe browsing, and then zapping the SB files, again
> > some help but after a few days slowing back to treacle speeds again.
> >
> > However, a glimmer of light for us began with a reversion to Firefox
> > ESR v52.1 which, even with our full complement of 26 add-ons and usual
> > extensions has maintained full performance for many days now.
> >
> > I offer this missive aimed at two groups of folks:
> > ? (a) folks like myself needing a version of Firefox ESR that works
> > well and fast, and ? (b) hopefully the Firefox developers can try and
> > work out where they've gone so badly wrong with more recent versions
> > of Firefox ESR, ?? as reverting back to the near magical Firefox
> > ESR v52.1 has been a wonderful experience, reliable, fast, and usable
> > again  - with many, many tabs (around 100) spread across 8-10
> > windows here, yet still a small memory footprint and I'll say it
> > again, great speed performance  - with ALL our add-ons running
> > nicely too.
> >
> > Please Firefox devs, sort out the newer 

Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Fwd: Stupidly Slow Firefox ESR (RJRiley.C)

[Luca Manganelli]

Il 07/03/2018 14:31, James M. Pulver ha scritto:
While I haven't noticed that this is more prevalent with 52.2 and up, we 
did get a recent notice on Scientific Linux 7 that it is hanging up and 
all around being slow. I've noticed it myself for the entire 52 ESR 
line, and recall it being annoyingly slow, if usable in 45 on Windows 7 
also... I.e. Firefox having a hanging UI randomly based on web page 
isn't anything new to me.


Maybe, and I suspect it, the slowdowns are correlated to the infamous 
bug with safebrowsing doing excessive I/O operations.

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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Fwd: Stupidly Slow Firefox ESR (RJRiley.C)

[James M. Pulver]

While I haven't noticed that this is more prevalent with 52.2 and up, we 
did get a recent notice on Scientific Linux 7 that it is hanging up and 
all around being slow. I've noticed it myself for the entire 52 ESR 
line, and recall it being annoyingly slow, if usable in 45 on Windows 7 
also... I.e. Firefox having a hanging UI randomly based on web page 
isn't anything new to me.


James Pulver
CLASSE Computer Group
Cornell University

On 03/07/2018 08:09 AM, Josh Frye wrote:

Fwd:  Stupidly Slow Firefox ESR (RJRiley.C)

We have several thousand installs of ESR 52.6.0 and there has not been a report 
yet about slowdowns like your experiencing. The only add ons those installs 
have are the ones put in by the users. I do add that we are on Win 10 
Enterprise, 64 bit, with 64 bit Firefox.


Josh Frye
Classroom Support Technician
Ivy Tech Community College
(office) 812-298-2448


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 21:30:12 -0500
From: "RJRiley.C" 
To: Enterprise@mozilla.org
Subject: [Mozilla Enterprise] Fwd: Re:  Stupidly Slow Firefox ESR
Message-ID: <4188d24b-272f-41bc-af97-fc97a7ace...@rjriley.com>
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Not only slowing down over time, but also crashing.? I have noticed that

certain web sites cause this, one example is mlive.com, where just three 
concurrent web pages loaded would bring a 4th gen I7 with nearly a 8000 
CPUBenchmark rating down. Problems with Firefox have become so frequent that I 
now rarely use it. I would appreciate feedback on why mlive.com is such a 
problem. RJRiley

On 3/2/2018 12:00 PM, Java Sys wrote:

Summary: Firefox ESR v52.1 even with 26 add-ons runs fast, is stable,
and uses a low memory footprint - compared to any more recent Firefox
ESR releases.

We shall stay with this Firefox ESR v52.1as long as seems sensible -
and then turn to an alternative to Firefox if the Firefox ESR at the
time is still as slow as, for example, Firefox ESR v52.6.0 (although
all these v52.6.0, v52.5.3, and v52.2.1 were also unacceptable slow
and require far too much memory c.f. Firefox ESR v52.1 )

Like many others it seems, we've experienced a slowing down of Firefox
ESR over time which recently has resulted in stupidly slow Firefox ESR
performance.

Initially we tried creating brand new profiles, which helped for a
(very short) period but slowed back to unacceptable levels within a
few days of (our) normal usage after re-adding back the 26 add-ons.
After reading comments on this list about reverting back to an earlier
version we tried this with Firefox ESR versions v52.6.0, v52.5.3, and
then v52.2.1 - all suffered the slow down after some normal usage
after a few days.
Immensely annoying and very, very time consuming to test, we tried
removing all add-ons which made a small difference but not for long,
we tried disabling safe browsing, and then zapping the SB files, again
some help but after a few days slowing back to treacle speeds again.

However, a glimmer of light for us began with a reversion to Firefox
ESR v52.1 which, even with our full complement of 26 add-ons and usual
extensions has maintained full performance for many days now.

I offer this missive aimed at two groups of folks:
? (a) folks like myself needing a version of Firefox ESR that works
well and fast, and ? (b) hopefully the Firefox developers can try and
work out where they've gone so badly wrong with more recent versions
of Firefox ESR, ?? as reverting back to the near magical Firefox
ESR v52.1 has been a wonderful experience, reliable, fast, and usable
again  - with many, many tabs (around 100) spread across 8-10
windows here, yet still a small memory footprint and I'll say it
again, great speed performance  - with ALL our add-ons running
nicely too.

Please Firefox devs, sort out the newer Firefox ESR performance (speed
& memory especially) before we all leave Firefox as unworkable.

Cheers,
Happy Firefox ESR v52.1 users!



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