Re: Calendar in front when start Entourage

2001-09-18 Thread Jan Martel
No, that didn't do it. As I recall, last time this came up, I also trashed every MS pref I could find in the System folder without any effect on how Entourage opened. On 9/17/01 9:38 PM, Judith Knee wrote: I was the person with the problem some time ago, and I'm happy to say it was fixed as

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Barry Wainwright
Title: Re: exporting to mbox On 18/9/01 5:04 am, William Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/17/01 at 9:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Crevier) wrote: Are you using SR-1? It fixes a bug in the mbox export format. Gag, you're too quick! I just posted a message myself saying I'd already

Where is the Address Book

2001-09-18 Thread Fon
Title: Where is the Address Book This is my first time to write to the Entourage Talk List, and I would be most greatful for an answer to this problem. Although I have looked everywhere in the users data located in the documents folder, I can not find the address book. Is there no way to find

Re: Where is the Address Book

2001-09-18 Thread Paul Berkowitz
Title: Re: Where is the Address Book On 9/18/01 7:52 AM, Fon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my first time to write to the Entourage Talk List, and I would be most greatful for an answer to this problem. Although I have looked everywhere in the users data located in the documents folder, I

What makes Entourage start up as if it's new?

2001-09-18 Thread Jan Martel
I just installed Copy Agent on my new computer. When the computer restarted, I got Entourage's Start up message as if I had just installed it. My mail and calendar etc entries were all still there, but I had to re-do the Account information. And when I checked mail, it downloaded everything from

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Eric Hildum
Actually, I would consider Entourage to be more in conformity with standards and practice than Eudora in this case. Having/requiring a file with an ambiguous file type (TEXT) as Eudora does is not consistent with the expected Macintosh user experience. on 01.9.18 8:37 AM, William Porter at

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread William Porter
On 9/18/01 at 9:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Hildum) wrote: Actually, I would consider Entourage to be more in conformity with standards and practice than Eudora in this case. Having/requiring a file with an ambiguous file type (TEXT) as Eudora does is not consistent with the expected

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 9/18/01 10:50 AM, William Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/01 at 9:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Hildum) wrote: Actually, I would consider Entourage to be more in conformity with standards and practice than Eudora in this case. Having/requiring a file with an ambiguous file type

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread William Porter
Paul, You're confusing two issues. OPIM is Entourage's _creator_ code, not the file type. The creator code is not the problem. The file type Entourage uses is MBOX, whereas the file type Eudora wants is TEXT. Yes, it is a text file, but of a very special type. If you try importing 1 million

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Dan Crevier
On 9/18/01 8:37 AM, William Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/01 at 12:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry Wainwright) wrote: Even after running SR1 you won't be able to directly import the mailboxes into Eudora. You need to change the file type to TEXT first. Entourage creates a file

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread William Porter
On 9/18/01 at 9:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Crevier) wrote: Mbox is a standard, but there is no standard Mac file type for it. Entourage also exports other types of data as text, such as vCards. The file type system on the Mac allows Entourage to tag what kind of file each of these are

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Eric Hildum
OPIM is a creator, not a type. The semantics of creators are quite different from the semantics of file types (which are likewise quite different than file extensions). The reason the TEXT designation is ambiguous is that it tells you absolutely nothing about the contents of the file, and

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Eric Hildum
Entourage has now effectively established a standard type for mbox files on 01.9.18 1:21 PM, William Porter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/01 at 9:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Crevier) wrote: Mbox is a standard, but there is no standard Mac file type for it. -- Eric Hildum --

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Barry Wainwright
On 18/9/01 7:21 pm, Paul Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're confusing two issues. OPIM is Entourage's _creator_ code, not the file type. The creator code is not the problem. The file type Entourage uses is MBOX, whereas the file type Eudora wants is TEXT. Yes, it is a text file, but

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Barry Wainwright
On 18/9/01 8:05 pm, William Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, You're confusing two issues. OPIM is Entourage's _creator_ code, not the file type. The creator code is not the problem. The file type Entourage uses is MBOX, whereas the file type Eudora wants is TEXT. Yes, it is a text

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Barry Wainwright
On 18/9/01 5:57 pm, Eric Hildum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I would consider Entourage to be more in conformity with standards and practice than Eudora in this case. Having/requiring a file with an ambiguous file type (TEXT) as Eudora does is not consistent with the expected Macintosh

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Dan Crevier
On 9/18/01 2:40 PM, Barry Wainwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/9/01 7:21 pm, Paul Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're confusing two issues. OPIM is Entourage's _creator_ code, not the file type. The creator code is not the problem. The file type Entourage uses is MBOX, whereas

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Barry Wainwright
On 18/9/01 10:37 pm, Eric Hildum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Entourage has now effectively established a standard type for mbox files on 01.9.18 1:21 PM, William Porter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/01 at 9:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Crevier) wrote: Mbox is a standard, but

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Remo Del Bello
On 9/18/01 2:44 PM, Barry Wainwright deftly typed out: Actually, I would consider Entourage to be more in conformity with standards and practice than Eudora in this case. Having/requiring a file with an ambiguous file type (TEXT) as Eudora does is not consistent with the expected Macintosh

Re: Microsoft Internet Library

2001-09-18 Thread Thomas Schierle
Thanks, Paul -- just for your information, after reading your reply, I did a quick investigation using ResCompare on the MS Internet Libraries. Turned out, there is just a single changed byte -- applications using v.5.0.3 (Explorer) will use the cache.waf file, and applications using v.5.0.4

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread William Porter
Well, I certainly didn't mean to start a controversy, but I for one have found this discussion quite interesting. I am not competent to have much of an opinion about the technicalities here. I can understand the explanation that identifying the format in the file type makes it possible for other

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 9/18/01 4:10 PM, William Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will tell you how it looks from where I sit -- in a mere user's chair. It looks like Entourage files are written to a file format that cannot be directly read by any other programs. Whether this is because the other programs made

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Eric Hildum
The same can be said for vcard, ical, and a host of other formats. Regardless, the file type you advocate is still not descriptive, and hence the built in features of the OS are not available to help the user handle the files. If you really prefer that kind of user hostile operation, why not

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Greg Connors
On 19/09/01 9:56 AM, Paul Berkowitz wrote: That's where you're wrong. It's easy to get it out of Entourage. Entourage has done all the work to convert its own complex message folders into simple mboxes, which are standard format text files, simply by dragging a folder to the desktop. What

Re: exporting to mbox

2001-09-18 Thread Eric Hildum
Hmmm - it would make more sense I think, to do this on the input side. That really is good engineering (sorry, I know, engineering is a discipline not allowed in Computer Science curricula) - be strictly compliant on the output, but forgiving in the input. Word, for example, does this when

Re: Where is the Address Book

2001-09-18 Thread Fon
Title: Re: Where is the Address Book -- From: Entourage:mac Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:58:55 -0700 To: Entourage:mac Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Entourage-Talk Digest - 09/18/01 From: Paul Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:13:57 -0700 Subject:

Accent characters in quick filter

2001-09-18 Thread Michael Lach
I'd be great if I could type Renee in the quick filter and get ReneƩ as well... -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To search the archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/