[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed official change to EPEL guidelines: modules and RHEL

2020-02-15 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 5:54 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > > In EPEL 8 or later, it is permitted to have module streams which contain > packages with alternate versions to those provided in RHEL. These packages > may be newer, built with different options, or even older to serve >

[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed official change to EPEL guidelines: modules and RHEL

2020-02-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 03:04:17PM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > This is what I was trying to get to in the thread recently about > libssh2. However it's still not entirely clear to me. > > Does this mean if there's a package foo that is a rhel package, but not > in a module, that it can be

[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed official change to EPEL guidelines: modules and RHEL

2020-02-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 05:14:31PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > As a consumer of EPEL, I'd rather nothing in the base RHEL (or really > CentOS in my case) ever get replaced, up or downgrade, by something in > EPEL. Nothing in EPEL would by default, but you could explicitly chose to. This would be

[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed official change to EPEL guidelines: modules and RHEL

2020-02-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 11:27:46AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > From my also little understanding of modularity, this is so you can > reinstall base perl packages. In some ways ( I am glossing over things > here), modular rpms always beat bare rpms because a module can put in rules > to

[EPEL-devel] Re: Can we enable some "-devel" modules from CBR in the EPEL8 buildroot?

2020-02-15 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 15. 02. 20 0:01, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Nope. We don't ever sync or use betas... once it's released it should be possible to use it however. To clarify (I forgot to say that) I meant to do it after the actual release, not during beta. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed official change to EPEL guidelines: modules and RHEL

2020-02-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen said: > From my also little understanding of modularity, this is so you can > reinstall base perl packages. In some ways ( I am glossing over things > here), modular rpms always beat bare rpms because a module can put in rules > to say 'you can install this

[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed official change to EPEL guidelines: modules and RHEL

2020-02-15 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 18:14, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Kevin Fenzi said: > > Does this mean if there's a package foo that is a rhel package, but not > > in a module, that it can be overlapped with a foo package thats in a > > epel non default module? ie, does it only mean the