[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposal for EPSCO: Python34 Moving to Python36

2019-01-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 15:06, Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> On 18. 11. 18 1:21, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> > On 11/15/18 10:08 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> >> I missed this in the last meeting from items that needed to be voted on.
> >>
> >> The changes would be to make epel macros to have
> >>
> >>
> >> %python3_pkgversion 36
> >> %python3_other_pkgversion 34
> >>
> >> This should allow for the build system to rebuild python3 items as
> >> default. Then we will need a tracking ticket and bump/rebuild the
> >> packages
> >
> > Be aware that this will cause many current python34-* packages to
> disappear the
> > next time they are rebuilt for EPEL7.
>
> This was the plan from the beginning and as long as we inform all the
> interested
> parties (read: maintainers of such packages, users), we shall be good.
>
> EPEL "officials" need to decide whether to do it now, or align the change
> with
> the next RHEL 7.x release. As a Python Maintainer in Fedora and RHEL, I
> can say
> that we would very much like to see this happen and preferably sooner than
> later
> . We would like to add Python 3.6 to RHEL 7, but at this point we cannot
> make
> any promises. If we add it, it will most likely own /usr/bin/python3 and
> %__python3 will in all likelihood point to 3.6. We want to avoid as much
> breakage in EPEL as possible.
>
>
I would like to work with you this week if you are  in Brno. I am wanting
to see  if we can do this first in a copr to show what will happen and then
put in a flag day for it before that possible problem occurs.



> Proposal:
>
>   * We change macros.python3 [1] to 3.6.
>   * We change macros.python3_other [2] to 3.4.
>   * We rename the package to python-rpm-epel-macros (or whatever is the
> name
> convention) and the subpackages to python-srpm-epel-macros etc. In case
> python-rpm-macros comes to RHEL proper. Once (if) it does, we remove
> macros.python3 from the EPEL package.
>* We put this to all the announcement channels EPEL has.
>
> Caveat: If a packager needs to rebuild their package without changing the
> Python
> version, they need to invert the macros. This information needs to be part
> of
> the announcement.
>
>
> [1]
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/blob/epel7/f/macros.python3
> [2]
>
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/blob/epel7/f/macros.python3_other
>
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[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposal for EPSCO: Python34 Moving to Python36

2019-01-22 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 18. 11. 18 1:21, Orion Poplawski wrote:

On 11/15/18 10:08 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

I missed this in the last meeting from items that needed to be voted on.

The changes would be to make epel macros to have


%python3_pkgversion 36
%python3_other_pkgversion 34

This should allow for the build system to rebuild python3 items as
default. Then we will need a tracking ticket and bump/rebuild the
packages


Be aware that this will cause many current python34-* packages to disappear the 
next time they are rebuilt for EPEL7.


This was the plan from the beginning and as long as we inform all the interested 
parties (read: maintainers of such packages, users), we shall be good.


EPEL "officials" need to decide whether to do it now, or align the change with 
the next RHEL 7.x release. As a Python Maintainer in Fedora and RHEL, I can say 
that we would very much like to see this happen and preferably sooner than later 
. We would like to add Python 3.6 to RHEL 7, but at this point we cannot make 
any promises. If we add it, it will most likely own /usr/bin/python3 and 
%__python3 will in all likelihood point to 3.6. We want to avoid as much 
breakage in EPEL as possible.


Proposal:

 * We change macros.python3 [1] to 3.6.
 * We change macros.python3_other [2] to 3.4.
 * We rename the package to python-rpm-epel-macros (or whatever is the name 
convention) and the subpackages to python-srpm-epel-macros etc. In case 
python-rpm-macros comes to RHEL proper. Once (if) it does, we remove 
macros.python3 from the EPEL package.

  * We put this to all the announcement channels EPEL has.

Caveat: If a packager needs to rebuild their package without changing the Python 
version, they need to invert the macros. This information needs to be part of 
the announcement.



[1] 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/blob/epel7/f/macros.python3
[2] 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/blob/epel7/f/macros.python3_other


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[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposal for EPSCO: Python34 Moving to Python36

2018-11-17 Thread Orion Poplawski

On 11/15/18 10:08 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

I missed this in the last meeting from items that needed to be voted on.

The changes would be to make epel macros to have


%python3_pkgversion 36
%python3_other_pkgversion 34

This should allow for the build system to rebuild python3 items as
default. Then we will need a tracking ticket and bump/rebuild the
packages


Be aware that this will cause many current python34-* packages to 
disappear the next time they are rebuilt for EPEL7.


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