Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-09 Thread Thomas Watson
Subject:Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? Wouldn't importing a micro version cause the client

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-09 Thread John Arthorne
Thomas Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/09/2008 09:16 AM Please respond to Equinox development mailing list equinox-dev@eclipse.org To Equinox development mailing list equinox-dev@eclipse.org cc Subject Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff McAffer
Subject Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-08 Thread John Arthorne
: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? For the most part I agree. But I do think there is value in versioning API packages that contain not only pure specification but also implementation. One real example is the OSGi package org.osgi.util.tracker package. This package contains

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-06 Thread Jeff McAffer
Date: 09/05/2008 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? We have qualifiers on bundles to support the notion of provisioning "line-ups" (aka features) that list p

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-06 Thread Jeff McAffer
st equinox-dev@eclipse.org Date: 09/05/2008 04:32 AM Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? I'm certainly sympathetic to you thinking here. Having

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-06 Thread Jeff McAffer
evelopment mailing list equinox-dev@eclipse.org Date: 2008/09/05 04:32 AM Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? I'm certainly sympathetic to you thinking he

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-05 Thread Jeff McAffer
Jeff McAffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Equinox development mailing list equinox-dev@eclipse.org Date: 2008/09/03 06:16 AM Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-05 Thread Pascal Rapicault
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Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-05 Thread David M Williams
equinox-dev@eclipse.org Date: 09/05/2008 04:32 AM Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? I'm certainly sympathetic to you thinking here. Having qualifiers in import statements is ugly at best. The challenge is that in the dev cycle the API of something may change many many

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-05 Thread BJ Hargrave
development mailing list equinox-dev@eclipse.org Date: 2008/09/05 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? Without some sort of increasing version number on the packages, p2 for example, will have a hard time figuring out what to give you cause everything will look

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-05 Thread BJ Hargrave
/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Equinox development mailing list equinox-dev@eclipse.org Date: 09/05/2008 07:50 AM Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? If I understand #2 correctly, then you want a controlled version practice during the development cycle. This is challenging since

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-05 Thread Thomas Watson
equinox-dev@eclipse.org Date: 09/05/2008 09:40 AM Subject:Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-05 Thread John Arthorne
@eclipse.org cc Subject Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? I'm certainly sympathetic to you thinking here. Having qualifiers in import statements is ugly at best. The challenge is that in the dev cycle the API of something may change many many times. This would lead to quite

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-05 Thread BJ Hargrave
Fellow and CTO of the OSGi Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: +1 386 848 1781 mobile: +1 386 848 3788 From: Thomas Watson/Austin/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Equinox development mailing list equinox-dev@eclipse.org Date: 2008/09/05 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-05 Thread Thomas Watson
Subject:Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? We have qualifiers on bundles to support the notion of provisioning

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-03 Thread BJ Hargrave
From: Jeff McAffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Equinox development mailing list equinox-dev@eclipse.org Date: 2008/09/03 06:16 AM Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? I understand your hestiation and actually agree with you from the released code point of view. However, we

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-02 Thread Thomas Watson
: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package? On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Jeff McAffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As version numbers on packages become more prevalent does it start making sense to use

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-02 Thread BJ Hargrave
OSGi Fellow and CTO of the OSGi Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: +1 386 848 1781 mobile: +1 386 848 3788 From: Thomas Watson/Austin/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Equinox development mailing list equinox-dev@eclipse.org Date: 2008/09/02 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-02 Thread Darin Wright
API Tooling also has items in plan that deal with package versioning, but that will be post M2 FYI - plans for package version support in API tooling have been reduced. Currently, there is nothing on the draft plan due to resources available to do the work, and the fact that SDK plug-in

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-02 Thread Thomas Watson
Here are some obvious questions: * How are @since tags formatted to indicate that the version number corresponds to packages vs. bundles? If there is a package version then the @since should always reference the package version exported in my opinion. * How are initial package versions

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-02 Thread Darin Wright
Darin Wright Eclipse Debug Lead, Rational Team, IBM Canada (204)938-8051 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/02/2008 01:59:00 PM: Here are some obvious questions: * How are @since tags formatted to indicate that the version number corresponds to packages vs. bundles? If there is a

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-02 Thread BJ Hargrave
Right, but since package versions will now evolve independently of bundle versions, should the package name also appear in the @since tag - like @since org.eclipse.jdt.debug.model 3.4. Else, when just looking at the Javadoc, consumers of an API will not know if they need a required

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-09-02 Thread Darin Wright
Right, but since package versions will now evolve independently of bundle versions, should the package name also appear in the @since tag - like @since org.eclipse.jdt.debug.model 3.4. Else, when just looking at the Javadoc, consumers of an API will not know if they need a required

Re: [equinox-dev] .qualifier for export package?

2008-08-31 Thread Chris Aniszczyk
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Jeff McAffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As version numbers on packages become more prevalent does it start making sense to use .qualifier on them in addition to bundle version numbers? The logic here is the same as for bundles. we rev the version number of the