Re: [equinox-dev][prov] Staged update

2007-10-12 Thread John Arthorne
Another possibility is "split phase install" for the case of separating the download from the configuration. This follows the engine terminology - it's really splitting the phases into separate invocations of the engine. That term would also capture any situation where the phases are broken apa

Re: [equinox-dev] OSGi R4.2 Stream

2007-10-12 Thread Thomas Watson
At this point I do not think we intend on doing a major overhaul on the framework. I can only see us doing that if 1) it is evident that the current implementation is not fulfilling the Eclipse usecases which are important to the Eclipse community as a whole 2) The OSGi specification changes are

Re: [equinox-dev] OSGi R4.2 Stream

2007-10-12 Thread Pascal Rapicault
There is no technical problems with building out of a branch or the incubator (except that we would have to run the build separately since there would be two bundles with the same BSN and therefore two map entries, etc.). In the end I was just curious about your intentions. Wrt to the actual locat

Re: [equinox-dev][prov] Staged update

2007-10-12 Thread Jeff McAffer
Thanks for the clarification. Suggested terms - deferred install or staged install - sequenced install I am not happy with the term following "deferred" or "sequenced". People may read too much into it (e.g., does sequenced updating sequence installs too?). perhaps * "operation". Jeff P

Re: [equinox-dev] OSGi R4.2 Stream

2007-10-12 Thread Thomas Watson
I would like to publish a build of org.eclipse.osgi for OSGi R4.2. But that question is orthogonal to where the code lives. We can build out of the incubator or out of a branch, right? It is a good question though. I'm not sure where we would publish the build on the Equinox download site. I

Re: [equinox-dev] OSGi R4.2 Stream

2007-10-12 Thread Pascal Rapicault
Do you have plan to publish builds of what will be developed? PaScaL |> | From: | |> >--| |Thomas Watson <[EMAIL PROTE

[equinox-dev] OSGi R4.2 Stream

2007-10-12 Thread Thomas Watson
The OSGi Alliance is busy working on the next release of the specification. The release of the next OSGi specification will be long after the Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) release. To achieve a stable Ganymede release we will not release new OSGi R4.2 API or implement new R4.2 functions in the Ganymede

Re: [equinox-dev][monitoring] Making MXBean attributes automatically available while using org.eclipse.equinox.jmx.server?

2007-10-12 Thread Robert Connell
Hi. This conversation is best suited for the newsgroup, so I have started a thread there. The following is the same reply as posted in the newsgroup: Simple answer: You are right in that currently you would have to augment getMBeanInfo in your derived Contribution class to return the set of att

Re: [equinox-dev][prov] Staged update

2007-10-12 Thread Pascal Rapicault
For context the item that Jim initially quoted came out of the questions section of the wiki (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Plan). This section list questions that we need to answer by the end of M3 to decide what we deliver in 3.4 will look like. The download before the installation is not on