Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-28 Thread Jeff McAffer
the other issue was wanting to enable cases where unpack200 was not in 
the JRE but yet could be supplied separately.

Jeff

Andrew Niefer wrote:


As Pascal mentioned, when we first started experimenting with Pack200 
we had memory problems.  It seemed that Pack200's internal data was 
static and not cleared between each jar that was packed.  So once we 
had packed a reasonable number of jars we started running out of memory.


It could be that we had been doing something wrong.  It is also 
possible that we could work around this by playing with class loaders 
(under the assumption that if the classloader was garbage collected, 
all that static memory would go away).


-Andrew



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Just out of curiosity, why do you use the external binary to do the
pack/unpack and not the java.util.jar.Pack200 class? It seems to me that
a fragment that is EE dependent (require Java 1.5 or higher) would be
ideal here. Those who run lower then Java 5 simply would not have
pack200 which is kind of natural isn't it?

- thomas

Jeff McAffer wrote:
> right but there is the practical detail that the exe you need comes
> with Java 5 or later and the licensing does not likely allow you to
> ship just the unpack200 exe.  But that is a matter for someone's legal
> team.  As John says, the unpack support simply cares whether or not
> the exe is there.
> What we really need is an open source implementation of unpack that
> runs on/with Foundation...
>
> Jeff
>
>
> John Arthorne wrote:
>>
>> Just to clarify, the JRE level doesn't matter here. Unpack is
>> performed by a standalone unpack200 executable that doesn't require
>> presence of a JVM.  You can run with a Foundation class library, plus
>> a standalone unpack200 executable from Java 5 or Java 6.
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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-25 Thread Andrew Niefer
I was thinking a new separate classloader containing just the Pack200 
classes.  We would still want to delegate to the bootclassloader for 
everything else.  However, I doubt the Pack200 classes are by themselves 
in their own jar that we could just create a URLClassloader for.

This was really just an idea and I haven't really thought very hard about 
the details :)

-Andrew




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If the Pack200 class is loaded from the VM then it will fall under the 
boot class loader. There is no way we can throw that class loader away. 
Are you suggesting that we could somehow load this class from an isolated 
class loader that is not connected to the boot class loader?

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As Pascal mentioned, when we first started experimenting with Pack200 we 
had memory problems. It seemed that Pack200's internal data was static and 
not cleared between each jar that was packed. So once we had packed a 
reasonable number of jars we started running out of memory. 

It could be that we had been doing something wrong. It is also possible 
that we could work around this by playing with class loaders (under the 
assumption that if the classloader was garbage collected, all that static 
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Just out of curiosity, why do you use the external binary to do the 
pack/unpack and not the java.util.jar.Pack200 class? It seems to me that 
a fragment that is EE dependent (require Java 1.5 or higher) would be 
ideal here. Those who run lower then Java 5 simply would not have 
pack200 which is kind of natural isn't it?

- thomas

Jeff McAffer wrote:
> right but there is the practical detail that the exe you need comes 
> with Java 5 or later and the licensing does not likely allow you to 
> ship just the unpack200 exe.  But that is a matter for someone's legal 
> team.  As John says, the unpack support simply cares whether or not 
> the exe is there.
> What we really need is an open source implementation of unpack that 
> runs on/with Foundation...
>
> Jeff
>
>
> John Arthorne wrote:
>>
>> Just to clarify, the JRE level doesn't matter here. Unpack is 
>> performed by a standalone unpack200 executable that doesn't require 
>> presence of a JVM.  You can run with a Foundation class library, plus 
>> a standalone unpack200 executable from Java 5 or Java 6.
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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-25 Thread Thomas Watson

If the Pack200 class is loaded from the VM then it will fall under the boot
class loader.  There is no way we can throw that class loader away.  Are
you suggesting that we could somehow load this class from an isolated class
loader that is not connected to the boot class loader?

Tom




   
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As Pascal mentioned, when we first started experimenting with Pack200 we
had memory problems.  It seemed that Pack200's internal data was static and
not cleared between each jar that was packed.  So once we had packed a
reasonable number of jars we started running out of memory.

It could be that we had been doing something wrong.  It is also possible
that we could work around this by playing with class loaders (under the
assumption that if the classloader was garbage collected, all that static
memory would go away).

-Andrew


   
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Just out of curiosity, why do you use the external binary to do the
pack/unpack and not the java.util.jar.Pack200 class? It seems to me that
a fragment that is EE dependent (require Java 1.5 or higher) would be
ideal here. Those who run lower then Java 5 simply would not have
pack200 which is kind of natural isn't it?

- thomas

Jeff McAffer wrote:
> right but there is the practical detail that the exe you need comes
> with Java 5 or later and the licensing does not likely allow you to
> ship just the unpack200 exe.  But that is a matter for someone's legal
> team.  As John says, the unpack support simply cares whether or not
> the exe is there.
> What we really need is an open source implementation of unpack that
> runs on/with Foundation...
>
> Jeff
>
>
> John Arthorne wrote:
>>
>> Just to clarify, the JRE level doesn't matter here. Unpack is
>> performed by a standalone unpack200 executable that doesn't require
>> presence of a JVM.  You can run with a Foundation class library, plus
>> a standalone unpack200 executable from Java 5 or Java 6.
>>
>>
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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-25 Thread Andrew Niefer
As Pascal mentioned, when we first started experimenting with Pack200 we 
had memory problems.  It seemed that Pack200's internal data was static 
and not cleared between each jar that was packed.  So once we had packed a 
reasonable number of jars we started running out of memory.

It could be that we had been doing something wrong.  It is also possible 
that we could work around this by playing with class loaders (under the 
assumption that if the classloader was garbage collected, all that static 
memory would go away).

-Andrew




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Just out of curiosity, why do you use the external binary to do the 
pack/unpack and not the java.util.jar.Pack200 class? It seems to me that 
a fragment that is EE dependent (require Java 1.5 or higher) would be 
ideal here. Those who run lower then Java 5 simply would not have 
pack200 which is kind of natural isn't it?

- thomas

Jeff McAffer wrote:
> right but there is the practical detail that the exe you need comes 
> with Java 5 or later and the licensing does not likely allow you to 
> ship just the unpack200 exe.  But that is a matter for someone's legal 
> team.  As John says, the unpack support simply cares whether or not 
> the exe is there.
> What we really need is an open source implementation of unpack that 
> runs on/with Foundation...
>
> Jeff
>
>
> John Arthorne wrote:
>>
>> Just to clarify, the JRE level doesn't matter here. Unpack is 
>> performed by a standalone unpack200 executable that doesn't require 
>> presence of a JVM.  You can run with a Foundation class library, plus 
>> a standalone unpack200 executable from Java 5 or Java 6.
>>
>>
>>
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>> I seem to remember that someone was working on adding to support to our
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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-25 Thread Pascal Rapicault
Also, when we started packing we have had notices memory leakage problems
when we were using pack200 through the Java API.


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right but there is the practical detail that the exe you need comes with
Java 5 or later and the licensing does not likely allow you to ship just
the unpack200 exe.  But that is a matter for someone's legal team.  As
John says, the unpack support simply cares whether or not the exe is
there.

What we really need is an open source implementation of unpack that runs
on/with Foundation...

Jeff


John Arthorne wrote:
>
> Just to clarify, the JRE level doesn't matter here. Unpack is
> performed by a standalone unpack200 executable that doesn't require
> presence of a JVM.  You can run with a Foundation class library, plus
> a standalone unpack200 executable from Java 5 or Java 6.
>
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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-24 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Just out of curiosity, why do you use the external binary to do the 
pack/unpack and not the java.util.jar.Pack200 class? It seems to me that 
a fragment that is EE dependent (require Java 1.5 or higher) would be 
ideal here. Those who run lower then Java 5 simply would not have 
pack200 which is kind of natural isn't it?


- thomas

Jeff McAffer wrote:
right but there is the practical detail that the exe you need comes 
with Java 5 or later and the licensing does not likely allow you to 
ship just the unpack200 exe.  But that is a matter for someone's legal 
team.  As John says, the unpack support simply cares whether or not 
the exe is there.
What we really need is an open source implementation of unpack that 
runs on/with Foundation...


Jeff


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Just to clarify, the JRE level doesn't matter here. Unpack is 
performed by a standalone unpack200 executable that doesn't require 
presence of a JVM.  You can run with a Foundation class library, plus 
a standalone unpack200 executable from Java 5 or Java 6.




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I seem to remember that someone was working on adding to support to our
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ones.
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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-24 Thread Jeff McAffer
right but there is the practical detail that the exe you need comes with 
Java 5 or later and the licensing does not likely allow you to ship just 
the unpack200 exe.  But that is a matter for someone's legal team.  As 
John says, the unpack support simply cares whether or not the exe is 
there. 

What we really need is an open source implementation of unpack that runs 
on/with Foundation...


Jeff


John Arthorne wrote:


Just to clarify, the JRE level doesn't matter here. Unpack is 
performed by a standalone unpack200 executable that doesn't require 
presence of a JVM.  You can run with a Foundation class library, plus 
a standalone unpack200 executable from Java 5 or Java 6.




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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-24 Thread John Arthorne
Just to clarify, the JRE level doesn't matter here. Unpack is performed by 
a standalone unpack200 executable that doesn't require presence of a JVM. 
You can run with a Foundation class library, plus a standalone unpack200 
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I seem to remember that someone was working on adding to support to our
download manager to favor downloading pack200'ed artifacts over canonical
ones.
Did that ever made it into the code?

Thx

PaScaL

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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-24 Thread John Arthorne
The only support I know is in MirrorRequest#perform, but it is quite 
rudimentary. Essentially if the repository is local, it prefers a 
descriptor in canonical form (not packed/zipped), and if the repository is 
remote it prefers a descriptor in non-canonical form. It doesn't have any 
further smarts about which non-canonical form is available. Also, the 
pack200 processing step does a check for the unpack200 executable so it 
will quickly abort if unpacking is not available on the client.





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I seem to remember that someone was working on adding to support to our
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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-24 Thread Pascal Rapicault
The support for pack200 is in a separate bundle which is not mandatory to
the proper functioning of p2.
Therefore even if the download manager was trying to get a pack200 version
of a given artifact (by checking in the table of content of available
artifacts,no round-trip to the server), it would not succeed and fail back
to download another form of that artifact.

Another point in that area, is that even though we are currently focused on
pack200, the direction here is for the download manager to be able to pick
the most suitable format of an artifact from the available ones.

HTH,

PaScaL



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how would that work on J2ME (CDC/Foundatoin)?



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I seem to remember that someone was working on adding to support to our
download manager to favor downloading pack200'ed artifacts over canonical
ones.
Did that ever made it into the code?

Thx

PaScaL

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Re: [equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-24 Thread Jim Colson
how would that work on J2ME (CDC/Foundatoin)?



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I seem to remember that someone was working on adding to support to our
download manager to favor downloading pack200'ed artifacts over canonical
ones.
Did that ever made it into the code?

Thx

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[equinox-dev] [prov] Download manager support for pack200

2008-01-24 Thread Pascal Rapicault

I seem to remember that someone was working on adding to support to our
download manager to favor downloading pack200'ed artifacts over canonical
ones.
Did that ever made it into the code?

Thx

PaScaL

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