Re: Are internal data properties ever inherited?

2013-10-08 Thread Claude Pache
Le 8 oct. 2013 à 07:21, Allen Wirfs-Brock al...@wirfs-brock.com a écrit : On Oct 7, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Nathan Wall wrote: Set foo to bar.[[Baz]] Does `foo` ever result in a non-undefined value if `bar` doesn't have an own `[[Baz]]` property but inherits from an object that has an

RE: Are internal data properties ever inherited?

2013-10-08 Thread Nathan Wall
Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: Nathan Wall wrote: Set foo to bar.[[Baz]] Does `foo` ever result in a non-undefined value if `bar` doesn't have an own `[[Baz]]` property but inherits from an object that has an internal `[[Baz]]` property? I couldn't say, as this notation is never used

Re: Are internal data properties ever inherited?

2013-10-08 Thread Allen Wirfs-Brock
On Oct 8, 2013, at 6:36 AM, Nathan Wall wrote: Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: Nathan Wall wrote: Set foo to bar.[[Baz]] Does `foo` ever result in a non-undefined value if `bar` doesn't have an own `[[Baz]]` property but inherits from an object that has an internal `[[Baz]]` property?

RE: Are internal data properties ever inherited?

2013-10-08 Thread Nathan Wall
Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote:  Internal implies this is not an property.; Allen Ok, thanks for clearing that up! Nathan ___ es-discuss mailing list es-discuss@mozilla.org

Re: Are internal data properties ever inherited?

2013-10-08 Thread Allen Wirfs-Brock
On Oct 8, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Brendan Eich wrote: Claude Pache wrote: It may be useful to recall that there are different concepts in the spec that have a name enclosed in double square brackets. I have found these three: * attributes of object properties (Section 6.1.7.1) [1]; Note

Re: Are internal data properties ever inherited?

2013-10-08 Thread Brendan Eich
I could go with internal slot. Is data necessary? /be ___ es-discuss mailing list es-discuss@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss

Re: Are internal data properties ever inherited?

2013-10-08 Thread Allen Wirfs-Brock
On Oct 8, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Brendan Eich wrote: I could go with internal slot. Is data necessary? or perhaps just slot. One concern with inventing terminology at this time is that we really don't know how we will want to talk about language level private object state assuming when it gets

Re: FYI: Ecma-404 approved and published

2013-10-08 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Allen Wirfs-Brock al...@wirfs-brock.com wrote: The Ecma General Assembly has approved by letter ballot Ecma-404: THE JSON Data Interchange Formal See http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-404.htm I'm glad the alphabet is now defined (and

Re: FYI: Ecma-404 approved and published

2013-10-08 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Allen Wirfs-Brock al...@wirfs-brock.com wrote: The Ecma General Assembly has approved by letter ballot Ecma-404: THE JSON Data Interchange Formal See http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-404.htm I'm glad the alphabet is now defined (and

Re: FYI: Ecma-404 approved and published

2013-10-08 Thread Mathias Bynens
On 8 Oct 2013, at 19:59, Allen Wirfs-Brock al...@wirfs-brock.com wrote: The Ecma General Assembly has approved by letter ballot Ecma-404: THE JSON Data Interchange Formal See http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-404.htm As for Unicode, it explicitly refers to Unicode

Re: FYI: Ecma-404 approved and published

2013-10-08 Thread Rick Waldron
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Mathias Bynens math...@qiwi.be wrote: On 8 Oct 2013, at 19:59, Allen Wirfs-Brock al...@wirfs-brock.com wrote: The Ecma General Assembly has approved by letter ballot Ecma-404: THE JSON Data Interchange Formal See

Re: FYI: Ecma-404 approved and published

2013-10-08 Thread Jorge Chamorro
On 08/10/2013, at 19:59, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: The Ecma General Assembly has approved by letter ballot Ecma-404: THE JSON Data Interchange Formal See http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-404.htm It provides the normative specification of the syntax of JSON Text

Re: FYI: Ecma-404 approved and published

2013-10-08 Thread Mathias Bynens
On 8 Oct 2013, at 22:19, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Mathias Bynens math...@qiwi.be wrote: As for Unicode, it explicitly refers to Unicode 6.2.0, even though version 6.3.0 was released last week. The document was written in July, which was

Are there any plans to introduce Date/Time literals?

2013-10-08 Thread Andrew Fedoniouk
Quite often Date values are used in data exchanges in form of JS literals or JSON. It would be beneficial if JS (and JSON as derivative) will have an ability to represent dates literally . For example: { eventType: meeting, eventStarts: 2014-11-05T13:15:30Z, eventDurationHours: 4 }

Re: Are there any plans to introduce Date/Time literals?

2013-10-08 Thread Mike Samuel
2013/10/8 Andrew Fedoniouk n...@terrainformatica.com: Quite often Date values are used in data exchanges in form of JS literals or JSON. It would be beneficial if JS (and JSON as derivative) will have an ability to represent dates literally . For example: JSON can't change since it's not

Re: FYI: Ecma-404 approved and published

2013-10-08 Thread Mathias Bynens
On 8 Oct 2013, at 23:39, Mark S. Miller erig...@google.com wrote: JSON must not change. If it refers to the latest Unicode, whatever that is, then it is potentially subject to disruption by (admittedly unlikely) future changes to Unicode. By that logic, it should have referred to either