Re: FW: Removal of language features

2017-07-27 Thread Bill Frantz
that no longer supports that construct. YMMV - Bill - Bill Frantz| Re: Hardware Management Modes: | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | If there's a mode, there's a | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | failure mode

Re: Exponentiation operator precedence

2015-08-27 Thread Bill Frantz
operations, like +, the order doesn't matter and x + y + z is not confusing. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz|We used to quip that password is the most common 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said

Re: The Tragedy of the Common Lisp, or, Why Large Languages Explode (was: revive let blocks)

2015-06-20 Thread Bill Frantz
for confining a piece of JS code running within a larger environment, like a web page to keep it from doing all the things the web page can do. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| Ham radio contesting is a| Periwinkle (408)356-8506

Re: Supporting feature tests directly

2015-03-26 Thread Bill Frantz
. Not using eval makes it more likely that you will be able to perform the tests in safe subsets of JS. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| Privacy is dead, get over| Periwinkle (408)356-8506

Re: Early error on '0' followed by '8' or '9' in numeric literals does not seem to be web-compatible

2014-08-06 Thread Bill Frantz
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Re: Iterator current/prev value

2014-03-23 Thread Bill Frantz
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Re: Source maps (was: Multiline Strings)

2014-03-16 Thread Bill Frantz
. It should also be recognized that all compiled programs break in machine language. :-) Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345

Re: Symbol.keyFor

2013-12-22 Thread Bill Frantz
have a key, I’d find that confusing. Axel -- Dr. Axel Rauschmayer a...@rauschma.de home: rauschma.de twitter: twitter.com/rauschma blog: 2ality.com -- Cheers, --MarkM --- Bill Frantz| I wish there was a knob

Re: Why not private symbols?

2013-07-31 Thread Bill Frantz
the same MAC address. Using timing of UI events is much better. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood Ave

Re: Array#sort() implementations not interoperable

2013-06-13 Thread Bill Frantz
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Re: Array#sort() implementations not interoperable

2013-06-13 Thread Bill Frantz
which is stable is a good solution if performance of sort is not a burning concern. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| Re: Computer reliability, performance, and security: 408-356-8506 | The guy who *is* wearing

Re: Future cancellation

2013-05-02 Thread Bill Frantz
On 5/1/13 at 5:43 PM, fra...@pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) wrote: On 5/1/13 at 1:37 PM, jackalm...@gmail.com (Tab Atkins Jr.) wrote: Ah, I'm not proposing that we augment the base Future class with cancellation properties. I explicitly used the term subtype in the quoted bit above. *Some

Re: Future cancellation

2013-05-01 Thread Bill Frantz
resources. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |- Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, CA

Re: Future cancellation

2013-05-01 Thread Bill Frantz
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Re: Future cancellation

2013-05-01 Thread Bill Frantz
, but not all of them, and several other people pushed back on that. I think that covers the issue. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| Re: Computer reliability, performance, and security: 408-356-8506 | The guy who

Promises in E (was Re: A Challenge Problem for Promise Designers)

2013-04-26 Thread Bill Frantz
communication delay. If A needs to use the final result in an immediate operation, it will wait for the final result promise to be resolved using the when construct. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| I like the farmers' market

Re: Promises in E (was Re: A Challenge Problem for Promise Designers)

2013-04-26 Thread Bill Frantz
by other means. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote: Let me take a crack at describing E's support for promises. E has two modes for sending a message to an object. There is the immediate send and the eventual send. If the Object is an unresolved promise

Re: Weak event listener

2013-04-02 Thread Bill Frantz
. Possibly some of the safe JS execution environments provide this service for the programs they mediate. Memory safety is one really good reason to choose JS over C. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| The only thing we have

Re: a future caller alternative ?

2013-03-09 Thread Bill Frantz
, GuardOS, Coyotos) managed the right-to-reflect could be a good starting point for doing likewise with language-based mirrors. --- Bill Frantz| Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get

Re: What is the status of Weak References?

2013-03-02 Thread Bill Frantz
to events that no longer need to be processed. Cheers - Bill - Bill Frantz| When it comes to the world | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | around us, is there any choice | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com

Re: excluding features from sloppy mode

2012-12-28 Thread Bill Frantz
. Then the letters could continue to be colored as the editor/IDE wishes. YMMV. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| If the site is supported by | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | ads, you are the product.| 16345 Englewood

Re: (Map|Set|WeakMap)#set() returns `this` ?

2012-12-05 Thread Bill Frantz
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Re: `free` operator

2012-10-27 Thread Bill Frantz
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Re: repeated parameter names and default values

2012-09-27 Thread Bill Frantz
for that matter, but the closer the specification comes to being complete, the better). Congratulations to Allen on the job he is doing for Javascript. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| Truth and love must prevail

Re: global object in strict mode

2012-08-25 Thread Bill Frantz
-ed. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| If the site is supported by | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | ads, you are the product.| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032

Re: arrows and a proposed softCall

2012-05-31 Thread Bill Frantz
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Re: Digraphs *and* Unicode pretty-glyphs, for arrows, triangle, etc.

2012-04-05 Thread Bill Frantz
- Bill --- Bill Frantz|After all, if the conventional wisdom was working, the 408-356-8506 | rate of systems being compromised would be going down, www.periwinkle.com | wouldn't it? -- Marcus Ranum

Re: New full Unicode for ES6 idea

2012-02-19 Thread Bill Frantz
bits, and will do something rational with ones that do not. Users who need characters in the over 21 bit set will be encouraged to upgrade. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| If the site is supported by | Periwinkle (408

Re: Native Assertion module?

2012-02-13 Thread Bill Frantz
downhill ever since. :-) Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz|After all, if the conventional wisdom was working, the 408-356-8506 | rate of systems being compromised would be going down, www.periwinkle.com | wouldn't

Lecture on Dart at Stanford

2011-10-31 Thread Bill Frantz
. --- Bill Frantz| Privacy is dead, get over| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | it. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Scott McNealy | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ___ es-discuss mailing list es-discuss

General language standards guidence

2011-10-02 Thread Bill Frantz
later, when its design and its implications are well understood. A feature which is included before it is fully understood can never be removed later. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| OAuth - It's the best

Re: IDE support?

2011-09-13 Thread Bill Frantz
could get better stability with simpler, less performant VMs. Some users might prefer the increased stability and security such a VM would offer. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| Privacy is dead, get over| Periwinkle

Re: __doc__ for functions, classes, objects etc.

2011-08-23 Thread Bill Frantz
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Re: Array generation

2011-07-11 Thread Bill Frantz
numerically. If that happens, and the result gets stored in the array, I don't want to confuse those values with the placeholder for purposely omitted value value. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz|Web security is like

Re: Summary: prototypes as classes

2011-06-29 Thread Bill Frantz
. Simple is nice, but accurate is more important. Cheers - Bill - Bill Frantz| The first thing you need when | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | using a perimeter defense is a | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com

Re: Feedback and criticism wanted: DOMCrypt API proposal

2011-06-09 Thread Bill Frantz
:00,fra...@pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) wrote: On 6/1/11 at 16:01, dd...@mozilla.com (David Dahl) wrote: The property is namespaced in order to provide future capabilities. The current design is asynchronous and looks like this: Is an asynchronous interface the best choice. I thought one

Re: [whatwg] Cryptographically strong random numbers

2011-02-22 Thread Bill Frantz
- Bill --- Bill Frantz|The nice thing about standards| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 |is there are so many to choose| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |from. - Andrew Tannenbaum | Los Gatos, CA 95032

Re: [whatwg] Cryptographically strong random numbers

2011-02-22 Thread Bill Frantz
-crypto uses for secure random numbers? The question for the Javascript experts is, what form will make implementing this kind of code easiest? Cheers - Bill - Bill Frantz| The first thing you need when | Periwinkle

Re: [whatwg] Cryptographically strong random numbers

2011-02-14 Thread Bill Frantz
is probably the hardest part of designing the API. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz|The nice thing about standards| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 |is there are so many to choose| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |from

Re: [whatwg] Cryptographically strong random numbers

2011-02-14 Thread Bill Frantz
established network connectivity. Cheers - Bill --- Bill Frantz| gets() remains as a monument | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | to C's continuing support of | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | buffer overruns