Re: Es4-discuss Digest, Vol 8, Issue 44

2007-11-02 Thread Yuh-Ruey Chen
As far as I can see it, there are a couple of non-technical issues here that have to be resolved, but they all boil down to who is willing to implement what. Is there truly no way to compromise? MS says that they think ES4 deserves to a be a new language. Suppose that is true and ES4 is renamed,

Re: Es4-discuss Digest, Vol 8, Issue 44

2007-11-02 Thread Brendan Eich
On Nov 2, 2007, at 2:40 PM, Yuh-Ruey Chen wrote: Lastly, all this accusations concerning intentions need to stop. In the absence of technical arguments, these are inevitable. Mozilla, this concerns you too - I find that saying you won't let big bully MS block ES4 is somewhat hypocritical,

Re: Es4-discuss Digest, Vol 8, Issue 44

2007-10-30 Thread Michael O'Brien
Doug, Yes, I think the time has come to table the ES3+ materials. It has been discussed on and off since April. Do you have something that describes this proposal in a material way? How can people evaluate ES4 vs ES3+ if ES3+ is unknown and unspecified? Michael Yehuda Katz wrote: Doug,