Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-22 Thread Lars T Hansen
Thank you... --lars On 10/22/07, liorean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22/10/2007, Brendan Eich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Give the overview at http://www.ecmascript.org/es4/spec/overview.pdf > > a read and let us know what you think. > > > Page 17: "In addition, any value in the language c

Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-22 Thread liorean
On 22/10/2007, Brendan Eich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Give the overview at http://www.ecmascript.org/es4/spec/overview.pdf > a read and let us know what you think. Page 17: "In addition, any value in the language converts to a member of AnyBoolean (undefined, null, zero, and the empty string c

Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-22 Thread Lars T Hansen
On 10/22/07, zwetan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/22/07, Brendan Eich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know of two industry-scale implementations under way, in addition > > to Mozilla's Tamarin project, and Michael O'Brien (mbedthis.com), all > > implementing ES4 in the next six to nine months

Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-22 Thread zwetan
On 10/22/07, Brendan Eich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know of two industry-scale implementations under way, in addition > to Mozilla's Tamarin project, and Michael O'Brien (mbedthis.com), all > implementing ES4 in the next six to nine months. There's no reason, > zero, apart from will to do some

Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-21 Thread Garrett Smith
more... http://dhtmlkitchen.com/learn/js/enumeration/conclusion.jsp On 10/21/07, Brendan Eich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know of two industry-scale implementations under way, in addition > to Mozilla's Tamarin project, and Michael O'Brien (mbedthis.com), all > implementing ES4 in the next six

Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-21 Thread Garrett Smith
(fwd to list - I clicked the wrong button again...) On 10/21/07, Brendan Eich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know of two industry-scale implementations under way, in addition > to Mozilla's Tamarin project, and Michael O'Brien (mbedthis.com), all > implementing ES4 in the next six to nine months.

Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-21 Thread Garrett Smith
On 10/21/07, Brendan Eich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know of two industry-scale implementations under way, in addition > to Mozilla's Tamarin project, and Michael O'Brien (mbedthis.com), all > implementing ES4 in the next six to nine months. There's no reason, > zero, apart from will to do some

Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-21 Thread Brendan Eich
I know of two industry-scale implementations under way, in addition to Mozilla's Tamarin project, and Michael O'Brien (mbedthis.com), all implementing ES4 in the next six to nine months. There's no reason, zero, apart from will to do something else, why Microsoft (which has enormous resourc

Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-21 Thread Yuh-Ruey Chen
Don't get me wrong - I love most of the new features (some others I'm just indifferent too). But I'm not implementing the interpreter; I would be a user of it. My concern is that of the implementator's burden, and from my point of view, if it takes a long time to implement ES4, it'll be a long time

Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-21 Thread Michael O'Brien
I may be able to add some input and some experience implementing ES4. We have chosen to implement the ES4 language creating a compiler and 2 VMs one in C and one in Java. We started with a partial implementation of ES3 which did support a small subset of ES3 with classes but no VM design and a v

Re: is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-21 Thread Garrett Smith
On 10/21/07, Yuh-Ruey Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey all, > > I've been watching ES4 development and occasionally contributing input, > and I have noticed a somewhat disturbing trend. ES4 is getting ever more > and more complex. > > I understand ES4 is a multi-paradigm language and so must b

is ES4 getting too bloated?

2007-10-21 Thread Yuh-Ruey Chen
Hey all, I've been watching ES4 development and occasionally contributing input, and I have noticed a somewhat disturbing trend. ES4 is getting ever more and more complex. I understand ES4 is a multi-paradigm language and so must be packed with features, but I don't think we want a repeat of the