Re: proposed relationships of Secure EcmaScript, ES3.1, and ES4.

2008-02-21 Thread Brendan Eich
On Feb 20, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Mike Samuel wrote: JSON ⊂ ADsafe ⊂ Cajita ⊂ Caja ⊂ ES3 ⊂ ES4 People who know Unicode are dangerous ;). Yes, we need more of you ;-). There's three problems according to my reading of http:// www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4627.txt but only the first is directly

proposed relationships of Secure EcmaScript, ES3.1, and ES4.

2008-02-20 Thread Mark S. Miller
At http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=ses:ses Doug Crockford explains a rationale for a secure variant of EcmaScript, hereafter ses. I am part of a team working on two such variants, Cajita and Caja (Caja is mentioned on Crock's page. Cajita is a small ADsafe-like subset of Caja). On the first

Re: Fwd: proposed relationships of Secure EcmaScript, ES3.1, and ES4.

2008-02-20 Thread Mike Samuel
Resending after adding myself to es4-discuss. On 20/02/2008, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [+es4-discuss] On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mike Samuel wrote: On 20/02/2008, Mark Miller wrote: Since a language is commonly defined as the set of strings produced by a particular

Re: proposed relationships of Secure EcmaScript, ES3.1, and ES4.

2008-02-20 Thread Brendan Eich
There's a lot of implicit context here, some of which may be new to es4-discuss readers. Also, not everything here is bound to become an Ecma standard, as noted in mail I sent earlier today (3.1 could be a TR and should be in the view of some on the TC39 committee). Comments inline below,

Re: proposed relationships of Secure EcmaScript, ES3.1, and ES4.

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Miller
Hi Brendan, thanks for the long and thoughtful answer. I think we have many points of agreement. I'll be responding to your message point by point soon. Tonight I'll just mention a few that jumped out at me. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Brendan Eich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now we could