Re: [ESS] R 4.0

2020-04-18 Thread Lionel Henry via ESS-help
macOS filesystems are indeed case insensitive by default (you can
format with sensitivity enabled if you like), but this is not
necessarily a concern here.

On macOS, R is typically installed as a "framework". In that case we
use RSwitch.app to change the version that the `R` symlink points
to. Maybe other users have a different experience, but I've never used
the special `R-` runners that ESS creates.

Best,
Lionel

On 4/18/20, Dirk Eddelbuettel via ESS-help  wrote:
>
> On 18 April 2020 at 13:57, Martin Maechler via ESS-help wrote:
> | But on that most-used (non-)operating system,  lowercase and
> | uppercase are mostly equivalent in file names *and* executables
> | are file names, no?
>
> No:
>
>   edd@rob:~$ r --version | head -1
>   r ('littler') version 0.3.9
>   edd@rob:~$ R --version | head -1
>   R version 3.6.3 (2020-02-29) -- "Holding the Windsock"
>   edd@rob:~$
>
> Also, remember that R CMD calls for 25 years into i.e. INSTALL to avoid
> /usr/bin/install from GNU?  Same reason.
>
> The only "famous" and very braindead exception is macOS where I recommend
> littler users build it as 'lr' because there (and only there) r == R.
>
> Dirk
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Re: [ESS] R 4.0

2020-04-18 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel via ESS-help


On 18 April 2020 at 13:57, Martin Maechler via ESS-help wrote:
| But on that most-used (non-)operating system,  lowercase and
| uppercase are mostly equivalent in file names *and* executables
| are file names, no?

No:

  edd@rob:~$ r --version | head -1
  r ('littler') version 0.3.9
  edd@rob:~$ R --version | head -1
  R version 3.6.3 (2020-02-29) -- "Holding the Windsock"
  edd@rob:~$ 

Also, remember that R CMD calls for 25 years into i.e. INSTALL to avoid
/usr/bin/install from GNU?  Same reason.

The only "famous" and very braindead exception is macOS where I recommend
littler users build it as 'lr' because there (and only there) r == R. 

Dirk

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Re: [ESS] R 4.0

2020-04-18 Thread Martin Maechler via ESS-help
> Vitalie Spinu via ESS-help 
> on Fri, 17 Apr 2020 14:32:50 +0200 writes:

> I think we could stick to capital `R-`. A few false positives, if any,
> are probably harmless.

> Vitalie

But on that most-used (non-)operating system,  lowercase and
uppercase are mostly equivalent in file names *and* executables
are file names, no?

Martin

> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 02:18, Tyler Smith via ESS-help
>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have some TeX-related stuff:
>> 
>> r-mpost
>> r-pmpost
>> r-upmost
>> 
>> I don't know what they do, I assume they were pulled in as part of
>> texlive.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Tyler
>> 
>> 
>> Alex Branham via ESS-help writes:
>> 
>> > On Thu 16 Apr 2020 at 16:20, Kasper Daniel Hansen via ESS-help
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have just updated ESS using list-packages. R-4.0 is not found
>> >> due to the
>> >> value of ess-r-runners-prefixes. This can of course be
>> >> customized, but I
>> >> think it should be changed to include "R-4"
>> >
>> > Thanks. I wonder if we should just look for any R-* values. Can
>> > anyone
>> > think of instances of an executable named R-* on exec-path that
>> > *isn't*
>> > a version of R?
>> >
>> > Alex
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Re: [ESS] R 4.0

2020-04-17 Thread Vitalie Spinu via ESS-help
I think we could stick to capital `R-`. A few false positives, if any,
are probably harmless.

   Vitalie

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 02:18, Tyler Smith via ESS-help
 wrote:
>
> I have some TeX-related stuff:
>
> r-mpost
> r-pmpost
> r-upmost
>
> I don't know what they do, I assume they were pulled in as part of
> texlive.
>
> Best,
>
> Tyler
>
>
> Alex Branham via ESS-help writes:
>
> > On Thu 16 Apr 2020 at 16:20, Kasper Daniel Hansen via ESS-help
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> I have just updated ESS using list-packages. R-4.0 is not found
> >> due to the
> >> value of ess-r-runners-prefixes. This can of course be
> >> customized, but I
> >> think it should be changed to include "R-4"
> >
> > Thanks. I wonder if we should just look for any R-* values. Can
> > anyone
> > think of instances of an executable named R-* on exec-path that
> > *isn't*
> > a version of R?
> >
> > Alex
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Re: [ESS] R 4.0

2020-04-16 Thread Tyler Smith via ESS-help

I have some TeX-related stuff:

r-mpost
r-pmpost
r-upmost

I don't know what they do, I assume they were pulled in as part of 
texlive.


Best,

Tyler


Alex Branham via ESS-help writes:

On Thu 16 Apr 2020 at 16:20, Kasper Daniel Hansen via ESS-help 
 wrote:


I have just updated ESS using list-packages. R-4.0 is not found 
due to the
value of ess-r-runners-prefixes. This can of course be 
customized, but I

think it should be changed to include "R-4"


Thanks. I wonder if we should just look for any R-* values. Can 
anyone
think of instances of an executable named R-* on exec-path that 
*isn't*

a version of R?

Alex

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Re: [ESS] R 4.0

2020-04-16 Thread Alex Branham via ESS-help
On Thu 16 Apr 2020 at 16:20, Kasper Daniel Hansen via ESS-help 
 wrote:

> I have just updated ESS using list-packages. R-4.0 is not found due to the
> value of ess-r-runners-prefixes. This can of course be customized, but I
> think it should be changed to include "R-4"

Thanks. I wonder if we should just look for any R-* values. Can anyone
think of instances of an executable named R-* on exec-path that *isn't*
a version of R?

Alex

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[ESS] R 4.0

2020-04-16 Thread Kasper Daniel Hansen via ESS-help
I have just updated ESS using list-packages. R-4.0 is not found due to the
value of ess-r-runners-prefixes. This can of course be customized, but I
think it should be changed to include "R-4"

-- 
Best,
Kasper

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