[EUG-LUG:1040] Re: bootup vs. pre-userland, timeframes

2002-01-15 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 08:16:05PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: Jacob Meuser wrote: Why would /home be needed for boot? Hum, I guess I was just thinking of it [boot] as pre-userland. You'd need /home to get into userland... Unless you set the user home directories to exist elsewhere!

[EUG-LUG:1041] Bruce Schneier bashes Microsoft

2002-01-15 Thread Bob Miller
In this month's Crypto-Gram, Bruce Schneier's lead story is about the UPnP vulnerability in Windows XP. Here's his concluding paragraph. Honestly, security experts don't pick on Microsoft because we have some fundamental dislike for the company. Indeed, Microsoft's poor products are one of

[EUG-LUG:1042] Re: Python Questions

2002-01-15 Thread Sean Reifschneider
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 09:39:46AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Q1. Perl has CPAN, a hugeamongous repository of useful libraries. What's the Python equivalent? There is also, I forgot to mention, Ciphon, which is in early development, which is meant to be an exact replacement for the CPAN

[EUG-LUG:1043] network questions

2002-01-15 Thread Ben Barrett
Okay, I was playing with nmap and nmapfe, and it drew my attention away from practical affairs to challenge me. A few questions arise: When a process starts that uses a port, say apache httpd, and then it bombs out badly or quits unexpectedly, how can one recover the locked port(s)? And in

[EUG-LUG:1044] Re: network questions

2002-01-15 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote: When a process starts that uses a port, say apache httpd, and then it bombs out badly or quits unexpectedly, how can one recover the locked port(s)? The kernel cleans up automatically. When the process exits (voluntarily or not), the kernel closes all its descriptors.

[EUG-LUG:1045] Re: network questions

2002-01-15 Thread Kahli R. Burke
Bob Miller wrote: Ben Barrett wrote: When a process starts that uses a port, say apache httpd, and then it bombs out badly or quits unexpectedly, how can one recover the locked port(s)? The kernel cleans up automatically. When the process exits (voluntarily or not), the kernel closes all

[EUG-LUG:1046] [ChrisN@EugeneChamber.com: Coming: Entrepreneurs Forum meeting and other events]

2002-01-15 Thread Bob Miller
Forwarded from the Entrepreneurs list. FYI and all that. I shan't be there -- 7:30 is about 4 hours before I get out of bed. (-: - Forwarded message from Chris Nystrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Chris Nystrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:12:26 -0800 Subject: Coming: