[Eug-lug]Re: [lug] HB2892 Update

2003-04-04 Thread ridgwad
Greetings Cooper, Finally, I am told that the Business Software alliance _will_ be testifying in opposition of this bill. If some of you could do some research on the BSA and send me links of articles outlining their practices, motivation and case history I would be very great full. This will

[Eug-lug]Is the mailing list server broken???

2003-04-04 Thread Larry Price
Not if you are reading this...;-) -- http://www.efn.org/~laprice( Community, Cooperation, Consensus http://www.opn.org ( Openness to serendipity, make mistakes http://www.efn.org/~laprice/poems ( but learn from them.(carpe fructus ludi)

Re: [Eug-lug]Is the mailing list server broken???

2003-04-04 Thread Mr O
And if you can't read? --- Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not if you are reading this...;-) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com

[Eug-lug]HB2892 Made The Oregonian

2003-04-04 Thread Cooper Stevenson
Friends, Here's a link from the Oregonian about our hearing yesterday! http://www.oregonlive.com/business/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/business/1049461116217020.xml I will have a report for you later this morning. Best, Cooper Stevenson MWVLUG Coordinator Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Www:

[Eug-lug]HB2892: Consideration For Mabrey's Muslix Bill

2003-04-04 Thread Cooper Stevenson
I sent the following to Representative Mabrey earlier this morning: --- Dear Representative. Mabrey, I would like to respond personally to two of your questions during our committee hearing for HB2892. Your first question asked

[Eug-lug]HB2892: Consideration For Mabrey's Muslix Bill

2003-04-04 Thread Cooper Stevenson
The following is an email I sent earlier this morning to Rep. Mabrey: Dear Representative. Mabrey, I would like to respond personally to two of your questions during our committee hearing for HB2892. Your first question asked effectively, if I am procuring breakfast cereal for the state's

Re: [Eug-lug]Re: playing media files WMP vs freedom...

2003-04-04 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote: MPlayer will do anything WMP will do, IIRC... in the latest version, using the win32 DLL's, anyway. What win32 DLLs? None of the machines at my company* are licensed for win32 DLLs because the whole company runs on Linux and BSD. How am I going to listen to RealAudio

Re: [Eug-lug]HB2892 Update

2003-04-04 Thread Bob Miller
Ken Barber wrote: Are you SURE it's the BSA? This isn't normally in their scope. Would you mind telling me who you heard this from? The BSA's scope is to be Microsoft's attack dog. They are an industry-wide alliance in the same sense that the invading army in Iraq is a multinational

Re: [Eug-lug]HB2892: Consideration For Mabrey's Muslix Bill

2003-04-04 Thread Beaker (aka Jeff W)
Fortunately, Mabrey's Muslix is actually _very_ well known and backed heavily by IBM, Hewlette Packard, Sun Microsystems, Oracle, and many others in the breakfast cereal industry. Further, Mabrey's Muslix, powers the fifth largest prison system in the world! M...Mabrey's.

Re: [Eug-lug]HB2892: Consideration For Mabrey's Muslix Bill

2003-04-04 Thread Linux Rocks!
Beaker (aka Jeff W) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately, Mabrey's Muslix is actually _very_ well known and backed heavily by IBM, Hewlette Packard, Sun Microsystems, Oracle, and many others in the breakfast cereal industry. Further, Mabrey's Muslix, powers the fifth largest prison system in

[Eug-lug]knoppix version 3.1

2003-04-04 Thread Kent Loobey
I picked up a copy of Knoppix version 3.1 the other day. Can anyone tell me what the root password for it is? Thanks. ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug

[Eug-lug]HB2892: Consideration For Mabrey's Muslix Bill

2003-04-04 Thread Cooper Stevenson
Dear Representative. Mabrey, I would like to respond personally to two of your questions during our committee hearing for HB2892. Your first question asked effectively, if I am procuring breakfast cereal for the state's prison system and I had a choice of trusted brand names, such as Post or

[Eug-lug]Re: [lug] HB2892: Consideration For Mabrey's Muslix Bill

2003-04-04 Thread collver1
Fortunately, Mabrey's Muslix is actually _very_ well known and backed heavily by IBM, Hewlette Packard, Sun Microsystems, Oracle, and many others in the breakfast cereal industry. Further, Mabrey's Muslix, powers the fifth largest prison system in the world! Hewlett Packard Ben -- metaphors

Re: [Eug-lug]HB2892 Update

2003-04-04 Thread Edward Craig
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Bob Miller wrote: Ken Barber wrote: Are you SURE it's the BSA? This isn't normally in their scope. Would you mind telling me who you heard this from? The BSA's scope is to be Microsoft's attack dog. They are an industry-wide alliance in the same sense that the

[Eug-lug]HB2892 Makes Worksession!

2003-04-04 Thread Cooper Stevenson
Friends, First, I cannot stress enough how proud I am of all of you who have taken an active roll to see this legislation get first to committee and now to a work session! I am not exaggerating when I say had it not been for your active support, none of this would have been possible. Thank you

Re: [Eug-lug]Is the mailing list server broken???

2003-04-04 Thread Larry Price
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Mr O wrote: And if you can't read? Well then you are an illiterate and we can dismiss you from consideration because you definitely don't use a unixlike operating system. and are unlikely to subscribe to mailing lists... Although i could see interesting results coming out

RE: [Eug-lug]HB2892 Update

2003-04-04 Thread Master O Planets
Well said! Kent is looking for the root on knoppix; I knew I should have written down what you said at the presentation. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Miller Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

[Eug-lug]DSL MSN/qwest deal

2003-04-04 Thread Jim K
Is any body using the MSN qwest dsl setup? They allow more than one system to be connected at one time. I know there is concerns about the e-mail security. Do you need a M$ box (or a MAC OS) between linux boxes and the DSL modem? The qwest representative suggested I did. Jim K

RE: [Eug-lug]knoppix version 3.1

2003-04-04 Thread Grigsby, Garl
Q: What is the root password? A: There is none; all passwords are locked by default. You can set it by going Knoppix Menu-Root Shell and typing passwd, then enterting a root password, also there are several sections you can read dealing with this subject in KNOPPIX/README_Security.txt. You can

Re: [Eug-lug]knoppix version 3.1

2003-04-04 Thread Bob Miller
Kent Loobey wrote: I picked up a copy of Knoppix version 3.1 the other day. Can anyone tell me what the root password for it is? No. Nobody can tell you what the root password is. That's because it doesn't have any passwords until you set them. There is more info in the file,

Re: [Eug-lug]DSL MSN/qwest deal

2003-04-04 Thread Joseph Carter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 03:06:14PM -0800, Jim K wrote: Is any body using the MSN qwest dsl setup? They allow more than one system to be connected at one time. I know there is concerns about the e-mail security. Do you need a M$ box (or a MAC OS)