Dexter Graphic wrote:

>>Ben, a number of us have Mandrake 8.2 CD's that we're happy to share;
>>the software is free, you pay for packaging, harcopy manuals (not very
>>useful IMO), and sometimes support... 
>>
>
>One very important thing you forgot to mention is that buying the boxed
>set helps support Mandrake's product development. If no one is willing 
>to pay for all those people's hard work they will eventually give up and 
>the high quality and easy to use Linux Mandrake distribution will go away. 
>
>Dexter
>
It is interesting to note that the message you posted below is all about 
the Mandrake Users Club and there is no mention of the fact that 
Mandrake is a publicly traded company and that purchasing stock in the 
company would also be a form of investment into it.  It would supply 
Mandrake with money in the same way that "joining the club" would, 
however it does have some potential differences later on.  If Mandrake 
happens to become wildly successful and profitable, and you've joined 
the club, you'll only get the satisfaction of having invested in the 
company (maybe that's enough).  If you've bought stock in the company, 
you stand a chance to share in the profit of it.

There seems to be a disconnect in the business model of the company.  If 
the company wants to survive off of charity (which is fine, I'm not 
bashing it, I work for a non-profit organization myself) then let's have 
at it, stop trying to become profitable and get off of the stock market. 
 On the other hand, if the company is a for profit venture, then it 
seems a little sneaky to have all your PR pushing for charitable 
contributions (oh yeah we'll throw in StarOffice too if you give us 
$120...) while those that have invested in the company's stock stand to 
profit off of that if the company becomes profitable in the future.

To quote whomever at Mandrake wrote that piece:

"Even when the company 
becomes profitable, it is important that users have a loud voice to remind 
management and investors that the "community" has been -- and should always 
remain -- a crucial part of MandrakeSoft's success. As we've said before, a 
company that is mostly controlled by business people & investors would be 
drastically different than if controlled by its users."

Yeah, and how about not just controlled by but *owned* by its users, the 
so called "community"?  Or is that a little to close for comfort?

Just some thoughts...

Kahli

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