Re: [eug-lug]Linux at Lane CC

2003-12-13 Thread Ken Barber
On Friday 12 December 2003 16:46, john fleming wrote:

 I remember the thread well and I am impressed that the best of
 and, k-12 classes made it into the catalog. What are the
 chances of the non distro specific intermeadiate linux users
 class or a beggining sys admin class making it to the schedules
 in the next year or so?

We're trying to get those in the schedule for spring term.  The 
plan is to split the current sysadmin class into two, making a 
basic class that is truly entry-level (right now you're expected 
to know a few things already) and a second class that goes well 
beyond what is now being covered.

The deadline for getting all of this in is only about three weeks 
away, so keep your fingers crossed.

Ken

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Re: [eug-lug]Linux at Lane CC

2003-12-12 Thread john fleming
Ken Barber wrote:

Last May we had a thread on eug-lug regarding Linux classes at LCC.  Beaker
had a great suggestion which has finally become reality:
On Thursday 29 May 2003 4:51 pm, Beaker wrote:
 

I've always thought a Best of Open Source series would be of interest to
people. Many apps such as OpenOffice, The Gimp, and Mozilla run on several
operating systems - not _just_ Linux :J - and may have broader appeal then
Linux-only apps.
   

It's taken months to get it approved, but I'll be teaching a best of Open
Source class at LCC Winter term.  The descriptions of all of my linux
classes are here:
http://www.lanecc.edu/cont_ed/cont_ed/cc_menu_winter04.html#3

and instructions on how to register are here:

http://www.lanecc.edu/cont_ed/faq.htm

(hint:  the website isn't easy.  Best way to register is by phone)

Note, if you will, that I'll also be teaching an Introduction to Linux
class for newbies at LCC now.  It will eventually be geared to people whose
workplace has switched to Linux... which should counter the M$ FUD that
goes, where will you get trained people to use Linux in your workplace? 
But there might be some nonprofits out there who are already using it, and
this class will help these folks quickly get up to speed.

Of course, the Linux system administration class (formerly Red Hat Linux
System Administration) is also being offered.  We plan to expand it to two
classes, basic and a second-level class, starting Spring term.  I also
plan to have earned my RHCE, and possibly a couple of LPI certs, by then.
Finally, we're also offering a special Linux sysadmin class for the folks at
K12s who are in charge of keeping their computers running.
Please spread the word.

Ken

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I remember the thread well and I am impressed that the best of and, k-12 
classes made it into the catalog. What are the chances of the non distro 
specific intermeadiate linux users class or a beggining sys admin class 
making it to the schedules in the next year or so?
   
John Fleming

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[eug-lug]Linux at Lane CC

2003-12-11 Thread Ken Barber
Last May we had a thread on eug-lug regarding Linux classes at LCC.  Beaker
had a great suggestion which has finally become reality:

On Thursday 29 May 2003 4:51 pm, Beaker wrote:
 I've always thought a Best of Open Source series would be of interest to
 people. Many apps such as OpenOffice, The Gimp, and Mozilla run on several
 operating systems - not _just_ Linux :J - and may have broader appeal then
 Linux-only apps.

It's taken months to get it approved, but I'll be teaching a best of Open
Source class at LCC Winter term.  The descriptions of all of my linux
classes are here:

http://www.lanecc.edu/cont_ed/cont_ed/cc_menu_winter04.html#3

and instructions on how to register are here:

http://www.lanecc.edu/cont_ed/faq.htm

(hint:  the website isn't easy.  Best way to register is by phone)

Note, if you will, that I'll also be teaching an Introduction to Linux
 class for newbies at LCC now.  It will eventually be geared to people whose
 workplace has switched to Linux... which should counter the M$ FUD that
 goes, where will you get trained people to use Linux in your workplace? 
 But there might be some nonprofits out there who are already using it, and
 this class will help these folks quickly get up to speed.

Of course, the Linux system administration class (formerly Red Hat Linux
System Administration) is also being offered.  We plan to expand it to two
classes, basic and a second-level class, starting Spring term.  I also
plan to have earned my RHCE, and possibly a couple of LPI certs, by then.

Finally, we're also offering a special Linux sysadmin class for the folks at
K12s who are in charge of keeping their computers running.

Please spread the word.

Ken

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Re: [eug-lug]Linux at Lane CC

2003-12-11 Thread Linux Rocks !
Congradulation! I realy wish they had them back when I went there ( and yes, I 
asked many times...)  I asked for perl classes too.. have they doen that yet? 
(or is perl dead?)

Jamie

On Thursday 11 December 2003 05:15 pm, Ken Barber wrote:
: Last May we had a thread on eug-lug regarding Linux classes at LCC.  Beaker
: had a great suggestion which has finally become reality:
:
: On Thursday 29 May 2003 4:51 pm, Beaker wrote:
:  I've always thought a Best of Open Source series would be of interest
:  to people. Many apps such as OpenOffice, The Gimp, and Mozilla run on
:  several operating systems - not _just_ Linux :J - and may have broader
:  appeal then Linux-only apps.
:
: It's taken months to get it approved, but I'll be teaching a best of Open
: Source class at LCC Winter term.  The descriptions of all of my linux
: classes are here:
:
: http://www.lanecc.edu/cont_ed/cont_ed/cc_menu_winter04.html#3
:
: and instructions on how to register are here:
:
: http://www.lanecc.edu/cont_ed/faq.htm
:
: (hint:  the website isn't easy.  Best way to register is by phone)
:
: Note, if you will, that I'll also be teaching an Introduction to Linux
:  class for newbies at LCC now.  It will eventually be geared to people
: whose workplace has switched to Linux... which should counter the M$ FUD
: that goes, where will you get trained people to use Linux in your
: workplace? But there might be some nonprofits out there who are already
: using it, and this class will help these folks quickly get up to speed.
:
: Of course, the Linux system administration class (formerly Red Hat Linux
: System Administration) is also being offered.  We plan to expand it to two
: classes, basic and a second-level class, starting Spring term.  I also
: plan to have earned my RHCE, and possibly a couple of LPI certs, by then.
:
: Finally, we're also offering a special Linux sysadmin class for the folks
: at K12s who are in charge of keeping their computers running.
:
: Please spread the word.
:
: Ken
:
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Re: [eug-lug]Linux at Lane CC

2003-12-11 Thread Brad Davidson
Heretic! Speak not of the death of Perl!

-Brad

Linux Rocks ! wrote:
Congradulation! I realy wish they had them back when I went there ( and yes, I 
asked many times...)  I asked for perl classes too.. have they doen that yet? 
(or is perl dead?)


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Re: [eug-lug]Linux at Lane CC

2003-12-11 Thread Bob Miller
Linux Rocks ! wrote:

 (or is perl dead?)

Heck, even Cobol isn't dead yet.  Perl will be with us for 20 more
productivity killing years.

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