Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-11-01 Thread Ben Barrett
An article I just got pointed to from a security mailing list: Hackers: Businesses invite attacks By Andy McCue Silicon.com October 27, 2003, 8:10 AM PT http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5097423.html This might be in line with Jason's talk, which starts at 1pm... don't miss is! Ben On Tue,

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-11-01 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 12:36:37PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: An article I just got pointed to from a security mailing list: Hackers: Businesses invite attacks By Andy McCue Silicon.com October 27, 2003, 8:10 AM PT http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5097423.html This might be in line

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-31 Thread Ben Barrett
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:09:12 -0800 Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:| | Uh oh. Time for an ancient history lesson. Okay, kids, come along | and Grampa will tell you a story about the olden days. | | Our story starts sometime | Now run along, Kiddies. Grampa needs his nap. Grampa,

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-31 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote: We want candy!! Or commandline tricks 8^O How about what I found in Anne's .procmailrc this morning? $ cat ~annee/.procmailrc # tofu: to inbox # spam: to Mail/spam//mm/dd MAILDIR = $HOME/Mail :0HB: * ? bogofilter -u * ! ^Subject:

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-31 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 02:01:23PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: :0HB: * ? bogofilter -u * ! ^Subject: Yesterday's Spam Summary spam/`mkdir -p $MAILDIR/spam/\`date +%Y/%m\`; date +%Y/%m/%d` That last line is the interesting one... Doesn't look like it'd work. $() might, but

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-31 Thread Bob Miller
T. Joseph Carter wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 02:01:23PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: :0HB: * ? bogofilter -u * ! ^Subject: Yesterday's Spam Summary spam/`mkdir -p $MAILDIR/spam/\`date +%Y/%m\`; date +%Y/%m/%d` That last line is the interesting one... Doesn't look

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-30 Thread jgw
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Ben Barrett wrote: Uh, and lotsa folks stick with microsoft, faithfully, as well, since it allows them to get something done. Arguable as it might seem on this very-zealous mailing list, it is obvious that M$ has plenty of market share, and that they aren't going away

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-30 Thread Bob Miller
jgw wrote: I guess my point was ineffectively made. What I meant is that all software sucks to an extent, you've just got to pick the one that sucks least for you. I think that by and large, Apple's mantra It just works easily applies, whereas Microsoft's ease of use initiatives are often

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-30 Thread Ben Barrett
TractorOS?? (Kubota... it was my first experience driving around an internal combustion engine, back on the farm = ) Ben On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:29:27 -0800 Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |... I don't know of a commercial OS | distributor who uses that model, though. Kubota Pacific

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-30 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote: TractorOS?? (Kubota... it was my first experience driving around an internal combustion engine, back on the farm = ) Uh oh. Time for an ancient history lesson. Okay, kids, come along and Grampa will tell you a story about the olden days. Our story starts sometime in the

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-28 Thread Jason
T. Joseph Carter said: You have BSD and MacOS X fans in the audience as well. =) To which jgw replied: Indeed. What's this Linux thing, anyhow? BSD/Mac OS X Zealot, /jgw To which I reply: Barrhh! (grumpy pirate noise) Down with the Mac! Sorry, I'm a bit sour on OS X and the Mac lately - just

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-28 Thread Bob Miller
Jason wrote: P.S. - I will try to make presentation materials available via euglug.org or other means as well. Mail 'em to me and I'll put them on the www.euglug.org site and link to them. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-28 Thread Ben Barrett
Uh, and lotsa folks stick with microsoft, faithfully, as well, since it allows them to get something done. Arguable as it might seem on this very-zealous mailing list, it is obvious that M$ has plenty of market share, and that they aren't going away anytime soon. I see this as proof that they are

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-27 Thread Linux Rocks !
This sounds like a really good presentation! I tragicly, I wont be there in person. Will there be any presentaion material and notes available on the website? Jamie On Monday 27 October 2003 09:08 pm, Jason wrote: : Hey List, : : Here is a little blurb to shed some more light on the :

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-27 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 06:08:51PM -0800, Jason wrote: Given, the audience, I'll of course be talking about these issues WRT Linux, but I'll also be addressing Windows, Solaris, etc. And, feel free to bring any random host, etc. security related questions. Looking forward to seeing some

Re: [eug-lug]Host Security - EUGLUG Presentation Details

2003-10-27 Thread jgw
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 06:08:51PM -0800, Jason wrote: Given, the audience, I'll of course be talking about these issues WRT Linux, but I'll also be addressing Windows, Solaris, etc. And, feel free to bring any random host, etc. security related questions. Looking forward to seeing some