Re: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest]

2002-10-11 Thread JHByrne
In a message dated 10/10/2002 2:35:29 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If there happen to be any Dyson shells in the process of being built, they might be noticed by the FAME or Kepler missions (they would tend to appear to be long period variable stars). Robert It seems to

Re: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest]

2002-10-10 Thread Bruce Moomaw
- Original Message - From: James McEnanly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest] Why not look for stars that are pertrubed by an unseen body, looking for 'gravity's silhouette

Re: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest]

2002-10-10 Thread LARRY KLAES
6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest] On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, James McEnanly wrote: Why not look for stars that are pertrubed by an unseen body, looking for 'gravity's silhouette', as it were.This is to some extent what the gravitational

RE: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest]

2002-10-10 Thread John Sheff
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James McEnanly Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest] Why not look for stars that are pertrubed by an unseen body, looking for 'gravity's silhouette', as it were. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest]

2002-10-10 Thread LARRY KLAES
, October 10, 2002 6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest] On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, James McEnanly wrote: Why not look for stars that are pertrubed by an unseen body, looking for 'gravity's silhouette', as it were.This is to some extent what the gravitational

RE: Survival of the Flattest

2002-10-09 Thread Gary McMurtry
Title: RE: Survival of the Flattest For renewing my subscription to Scientific American, I recently received the offprint collection The Frontiers of Space which includes articles on Mars and our favorite moon, Europa. I highly recommend both the collection and a subscription to this fine old

Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest]

2002-10-09 Thread Robert J. Bradbury
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Gary McMurtry wrote: In the collection is an article by Ian Crawford entitled Where Are They?, subtitled Maybe we are alone in the galaxy after all. I found this article thought provoking to say the least. Crawford uses the SETI results to date to suggest that we

Re: Survival of the Flattest

2002-10-09 Thread JHByrne
In a message dated 10/8/2002 10:38:50 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, that's not why I'm writing to you. In the collection is an article by Ian Crawford entitled "Where Are They?", subtitled "Maybe we are alone in the galaxy after all". I found this article thought

Re: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest]

2002-10-09 Thread JHByrne
In a message dated 10/9/2002 4:54:50 AM Alaskan Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My objections weren't as much to Crawford's ideas as they were to the Andrew LePage sidebar. The problem in general however still remains -- the significant majority of current "SETI" searches are directed

Re: Life and SETI [was RE: Survival of the Flattest]

2002-10-09 Thread Robert J. Bradbury
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED], responding to my comments, wrote: He suggests that we can't find suns transmitting signals, because those suns are already cloaked, and pumping energy into vast 'ringworlds'. Actually, more like sphere-worlds but that is a technical detail. I'd have

RE: Survival of the Flattest

2002-10-08 Thread Thomas Green
Title: RE: Survival of the Flattest I think JHB brought up some very important limitations with trying to model evolutionary patterns. Major extinctions are thought to have some kind of catalyst to force the change over a short period, like a big 'roid. This led scientists like Stephen J

RE: Survival of the Flattest

2002-10-08 Thread Robert Crawley
Title: RE: Survival of the Flattest This is kind of cross topic, but is seems relevant. I brew honey wine, otherwise known as mead, and I use a yeast (Saccharomyces baynus) to produce the alcohol. This yeast is very territorial, and reproduces like wild fire. In doing so it consumes its

Re: Survival of the Flattest

2002-10-08 Thread JHByrne
Do you find it as ironically funny as I do, that humans seem to mirror alcohol yeasts, albeit about 5 'powers of 10' larger? After all, give a population of humans a few resources, and they'll breed like mad, fight any competitors (whilst justifying it with any number of noble reasons other than

Re: Survival of the Flattest

2002-10-08 Thread wmarcus
 I think there is a symbiotic connection between humans and alcohol yeast. Cheers! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Survival of the Flattest Do you find it as ironically

Re:: Survival of the Flattest

2002-10-08 Thread Bruce Moomaw
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Survival of the Flattest Do you find it as ironically funny as I do, that humans seem to mirror alcohol yeasts, albeit about 5 'powers of 10' larger? After all, give

Re: : Survival of the Flattest

2002-10-08 Thread JHByrne
In a message dated 10/8/2002 1:04:37 PM Alaskan Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're too late -- Kurt Vonnegut already beat you to that analogy in "Breakfast of Champions" (although he was referring to champagne yeast, not mead yeast). Oh great. So, you're telling me I have the