RE: Working Model Concept

2002-10-29 Thread Schmidt Mickey Civ 50 ES/CC
The steam propelled torpedoes JH Byrne mentioned were powered by concentrated hydrogen peroxide. H2O2 contains a lot of energy that might be more useful in the submarine that navigates in the open water beneath the ice. Good idea about contacting agencies with similar problems to solve.

RE: Working Model

2002-10-28 Thread Robert Crawley
-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Working Model In a message dated 10/27/2002 6:05:55 PM Alaskan Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: Working Model Points Addressed

2002-10-28 Thread Robert J. Bradbury
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (By the way, the Cryobot does NOT generate hydraulic pressure when it melts ice -- quite apart from the fact that any such pressure would be in every direction anyway, remember that water ice is one of the very few substances that SHRINKS when it

Re: Working Model

2002-10-28 Thread LARRY KLAES
Please tell me what is wrong with the name Icepick? Larry - Original Message - From: Gail Leatherwood Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:33 PM To: Europa Subject: Working Model I seem to have volunteered to help organize and circulate the ideas we've come up with. I'll start

RE: Working Model

2002-10-28 Thread Robert Crawley
Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of LARRY KLAES Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:57 AM To: europa Subject: Re: Working Model Please tell me what is wrong with the name Icepick

Re: Working Model

2002-10-28 Thread Gail Leatherwood
ate: Monday, October 28, 2002 10:08:13 AM To: europa Subject: Re: Working Model Please tell me what is wrong with the name Icepick? Larry - Original Message - From: Gail Leatherwood Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:33 PM To: Europa Subject: Working Model I seem to have voluntee

Re: Working Model Points Addressed

2002-10-28 Thread LARRY KLAES
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Working Model Points Addressed Okay, group, we're making good progress so far. A lot of members have put in some very good points about the possibilities and limitations of an actual working model. Here is an address to those various points:There's a VERY serious

Re: Working Model

2002-10-27 Thread Hibai Unzueta
Subject: Working Model I seem to have volunteered to help organize and circulate the ideas we've come up with. I'll start working on a data base since I don't have anything else to do but sit around drinking beer and watching TV (yeah, right!) I suggest we call the project Hot Nose, since that's what

RE: Working Model

2002-10-27 Thread Robert Crawley
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 10:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Working Model In a message dated 10/26/2002 11:44:50 AM Alaskan Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don’t know if it helps or not, but I have access to CAD/CAM software

RE: Working Model

2002-10-27 Thread Robert Crawley
] [mailto:owner-europa;klx.com]On Behalf Of Hibai Unzueta Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Working Model I am happy to see that this is moving and could result on something real, but I think we are somehow trying to actually go faster than we can. Talking about

Working Model Points Addressed

2002-10-27 Thread JHByrne
Okay, group, we're making good progress so far. A lot of members have put in some very good points about the possibilities and limitations of an actual working model. Here is an address to those various points: There's a VERY serious misconception developing here -- every Cryobot design ever

Re: Working Model

2002-10-27 Thread JHByrne
to give them as much credit as we can. We want to encourage the participation of civilians and civilian industries as much as possible in the space technology game. If we all wind up, one year from now, standing on a glacier with a 3' aluminum working model, all of us wearing jackets with Precision

Re: Working Model

2002-10-26 Thread JHByrne
I seem to have volunteered to help organize and circulate the ideas we've come up with. I'll start working on a data base since I don't have anything else to do but sit around drinking beer and watching TV (yeah, right!) I suggest we call the project "Hot Nose," since that's what the design seems

Re: Working Model

2002-10-26 Thread JHByrne
In a message dated 10/26/2002 11:44:50 AM Alaskan Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don’t know if it helps or not, but I have access to CAD/CAM software I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I don't know what CAD/CAM software is. Is it for creating diagrams? Robert, would you also be able to

Working Model Concept

2002-10-25 Thread JHByrne
well in a vacuum, so a working model employing steam could actually be a push along a new concept path for the actual Europa probe. My question to you all is: is this a workable concept? Ideas? -- John Harlow Byrne == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Working Model Concept

2002-10-25 Thread JHByrne
Link to high quality submarine model kit makers: http://www.heiszwolf.com/subs/m_index.html Note that the 'Albacore' model features an internal gasoline engine. Also note that there are quite a few experts on this site, with a bit of knowledge on HOW to put together such a thing, in a small